Wet shaving thread.

[mrgto]

Was my immediate thought this morning!

It's all about marketing! No regulars for shave quality! And it works! They make millions!

OK so which of our razors is junk? And which razor do you use that is great?

Trust me, if you saw the labs we have and the time we put into our products you'd understand it isn't all about marketing.

 

[E-Mursed]

When is Gillette going to make a cartridge with 10 blades...??

That has got to be twice as good as one with 5 blades....right?????

 

[mrgto]

When is Gillette going to make a cartridge with 10 blades...??

That has got to be twice as good as one with 5 blades....right?????

Funny man. I don't think they are.

 

[Gixxer]

I get what Gillette is doing. In the U.S. at least folks do not have the time for a wet shave so they want convenience, speed and safety. In turn the cartridge razors were made to accomplish that task. Then, ways were found to supposedly give a "better" shave if you have three blades. Then four. Then five. But, does the ease of shaving and promise of a closer shave go up at the same rate as the price for replacement cartridges? I do not have the ways and means to measure that but it is an observation. I do not doubt the safety aspect, I watched a guy shave just last week, he was done in literally under a minute. He literally yanked that razor across his face and neck with reckless abandon (ATG FROM THE START NEVERTHELESS!!) and that was that. I, in turn was still whipping up a superlather of Palmolive shave stick and TOBS cream (amazing combo BTW...).

Wetshaving throughout the world is only popular in countries that do not make a lot of money. Such as India. Outside of that the market in other countries is always going to be geared towards carts cause folks can afford it. There might be more to it than that but Gillette is wanting to make money just like anybody else so the market is going to be geared towards what the public in a specific area wants and they will charge what they see fit. Some will complain, but most will pay and continue to use the stuff.

MrGTO, none of that was directed towards you as a person, please do not take offense. Those are just some observations I have made through conversation in the B&B forum and my own thoughts. I am not a hater, I just chose to make a change in my routine so I can save money. The time it takes or me to shave every day is insignificant compared to the money I save by wetshaving.

Okay, MrGTO, this one is for you. Why did Gillette glue jewels to a plastic razor to give to Lochte (was it him or Phelps?) instead of doing something badass like a sterling silver razor with jewels?:rockin:

 

[mrgto]

Gixxer, agreed. IT's all about time saving. We introduced a low cost razor in India a year or two back that has really been a hit.

I don't take offense. Trust me I agree on cost. It's ridiculous but companies are in business to make money. Agreed but to others time is money. It's all about what you like and what works best for you. Always has been, always will be.

I didn't see the razor given to any Olympians. Got a picture of it?

 

[stamandster]

Those are called cartridges. The company is in business to make money. The price also reflects the amount of R&D that is put into them and the equipment they're built on.

As someone once said, it's the best shave in the world. You're paying for the best shave on the planet. How many times in your life can you say that?

No truer words have been said "The company is in business to make money". Cartridges, heads, same difference. Dorco has the same exact performance and is at least two times less than Gillette replacements. Are Gillette products made in the US? Then I could understand the upmarket.

"You're paying for the best shave on the planet. How many times in your life can you say that?" Every time I shave buddy

A side note, Art of Shaving of NY licenses from Gillette for it's upscale handles. And I have used, and paid for, Fusion and Mach 3 before. It's good for my wife because she's afraid of the DE's.

 

[Zuljin]

I've used Gillette for years. Of all the disposable head safety razors, I like them best.

Got a straight now though.

 

[mrgto]

No truer words have been said "The company is in business to make money". Cartridges, heads, same difference. Dorco has the same exact performance and is at least two times less than Gillette replacements. Are Gillette products made in the US? Then I could understand the upmarket.

"You're paying for the best shave on the planet. How many times in your life can you say that?" Every time I shave buddy

A side note, Art of Shaving of NY licenses from Gillette for it's upscale handles. And I have used, and paid for, Fusion and Mach 3 before. It's good for my wife because she's afraid of the DE's.

The verbage is there for a reason. You don't see "HEADS" on packs of cartridges do you?

Dorco? So on their packs they have the claims that they're as good as Gillette?

Fusion/Mach 3/Embrace all made in USA.
Venus and lesser disposables are made in Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Poland, etc. All made in statements are on the back of the packages.

P&G owns the Art of Shaving just as they do with Gillette.

 

[stamandster]

The verbage is there for a reason. You don't see "HEADS" on packs of cartridges do you?

Dorco? So on their packs they have the claims that they're as good as Gillette?

Fusion/Mach 3/Embrace all made in USA.
Venus and lesser disposables are made in Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Poland, etc. All made in statements are on the back of the packages.

P&G owns the Art of Shaving just as they do with Gillette.

Ahh so that's why their priced the way they are, gotcha. No I don't see heads on the packaging, your absolutely correct. But, I'm also coming from a electric shaver background. Hence the "heads" "cartridges" debacle. But that's what I've called them... so... have your marketing team get on a campaign to stop the calling of cartridges heads. Didn't know P&G owns AoS, the AoS guy said that they license it because "it's hand down the best shaving replacement cartridge". I should have known!

Yes, that's what Dorco claims (or at least have claimed in the past) against the major manufacturers.

So are you in R&D, sales, marketing, button pusher, etc. for Gillette?

 

[mrgto]

Ahh so that's why their priced the way they are, gotcha. No I don't see heads on the packaging, your absolutely correct. But, I'm also coming from a electric shaver background. Hence the "heads" "cartridges" debacle. But that's what I've called them... so... have your marketing team get on a campaign to stop the calling of cartridges heads. Didn't know P&G owns AoS, the AoS guy said that they license it because "it's hand down the best shaving replacement cartridge". I should have known!

Yes, that's what Dorco claims (or at least have claimed in the past) against the major manufacturers.

So are you in R&D, sales, marketing, button pusher, etc. for Gillette?

Marketing nor R&D has ever called them heads. They've always been cartridges.
Yea a electric would be called a head I suppose.

Yup, P&G acquired them a few years back. I've done some product supply for them in the past.

Well for the next few months I'll be finishing up my Product Supply obligations and then I'll be unemployed. I'm part of the global downsizing by P&G. Not fun.

 

[BigKahuna]

This is a great thread, but if it's going to turn into half the people bashing cartridge razors and someone trying to defend them, I'm out!
For my time and money, double edges and wet shaving win every time!
5 blades make for a smooth shave in my face... Until it scabs over while the layer of skin regenerates.
I prefer not to use them and look forward to shooting the bull with anyone else who has made that decision... Not reading more Arguing!

 

[mrgto]

This is a great thread, but if it's going to turn into half the people bashing cartridge razors and someone trying to defend them, I'm out!
For my time and money, double edges and wet shaving win every time!
5 blades make for a smooth shave in my face... Until it scabs over while the layer of skin regenerates.
I prefer not to use them and look forward to shooting the bull with anyone else who has made that decision... Not reading more Arguing!

There is a great forum out there for DE shavers. I can't recall the name now.

 

[Gixxer]

This is a great thread, but if it's going to turn into half the people bashing cartridge razors and someone trying to defend them, I'm out!
For my time and money, double edges and wet shaving win every time!
5 blades make for a smooth shave in my face... Until it scabs over while the layer of skin regenerates.
I prefer not to use them and look forward to shooting the bull with anyone else who has made that decision... Not reading more Arguing!

Point taken. My apologies if my comments got some folks fired up.

Anyhow I am about to purchase a hundred count of Polsilver Super Iridium blades. The word on the street is they are the same blades different packaging, and those that tested the old SI's against the Polsilver SI's can't tell the difference. I hope its the real deal cause I love those SI's. Bullgoose has em for $35 a hundred pack.

 

[Gixxer]

I was partly correct. He did get a pair of razors, one of em had a gold handle.

https://twitter.com/ryanlochte/status/232772069945909249/photo/1/large

 

[mrgto]

I was partly correct. He did get a pair of razors, one of em had a gold handle.

https://twitter.com/ryanlochte/status/232772069945909249/photo/1/large

One on the left is a Art of Shaving razor. One on the right looks like a Fusion Power or Proglide Power razor that was modified. My group used to be responsible for doing all those special razors. Times have changed.

 

[Zuljin]

I don't get the vibrating razor thing. I used the non-vibrating Fusion with the trimmer handle. That trimmer's good for ear hair and the hair that likes to poke out around your ears when your short around the ears haircut starts to grow out. Works on sideburns too. Nothing scissors can't do, but handy none the less.

 

[mrgto]

I don't get the vibrating razor thing. I used the non-vibrating Fusion with the trimmer handle. That trimmer's good for ear hair and the hair that likes to poke out around your ears when your short around the ears haircut starts to grow out. Works on sideburns too. Nothing scissors can't do, but handy none the less.

Power razor is to numb the skin more than anything.

 

[ChillWill]

Cartridge razors are the new BMC, people will randomly bash them even so they're a solid, consistent product that isn't really competing with what they consume.

FWIW mach 3 wasn't a close shave for me and a DE has enabled me to get a closer shave and not irritate by having to go against the grain.

I'd be surprised if a cartridge could get closer but I'll keep an open mind...

 

[mrgto]

Cartridge razors are the new BMC, people will randomly bash them even so they're a solid, consistent product that isn't really competing with what they consume.

FWIW mach 3 wasn't a close shave for me and a DE has enabled me to get a closer shave and not irritate by having to go against the grain.

I'd be surprised if a cartridge could get closer but I'll keep an open mind...

Have you tried Fusion Proglide?

 

[ChillWill]

Have you tried Fusion Proglide?

Maybe... I think I got one free in a pack of mach 3. Whatever it was, it was better than the mach 3 but too long ago to compare to my DE

 

[EoinMag]

Have you tried Fusion Proglide?

19 posts, most of them in this thread, you're a paid shill right?

 

[Airplanedoc]

19 posts, most of them in this thread, you're a paid shill right?

He already answered that

Well for the next few months I'll be finishing up my Product Supply obligations and then I'll be unemployed. I'm part of the global downsizing by P&G. Not fun.

 

[jeepinjeepin]

I work for Gillette. Questions?

19 posts, most of them in this thread, you're a paid shill right?

Brush up on your reading before barging in like that.

 

[BigKahuna]

STOP!
Anyone with hard water use Poraso? Tube of cream or jar of cake?
I'm thinking of trying it, but don't know which to order!

 

[EoinMag]

Hammer Time.

 

[jeepinjeepin]

STOP!
Anyone with hard water use Poraso? Tube of cream or jar of cake?
I'm thinking of trying it, but don't know which to order!

My water is super normal here. Send me the soap you are using and I'll get some super hard water from my moms well. I know, not quite worth it.

Edit: Ah, you are trying to decide which to try. My solution is worthless. Have you tried Badger&Blade? I'm sure this has come up somewhere over there.

 

[stamandster]

Googled...

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/288975-Shaving-Cream-for-use-with-Hard-Water
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/113259-Proraso-C-O-Bigelow-lather-and-hard-water
http://theshaveden.com/forums/threads/help-proraso-users.16493/

 

[Gixxer]

STOP!
Anyone with hard water use Poraso? Tube of cream or jar of cake?
I'm thinking of trying it, but don't know which to order!

Had pretty hard water when I was stationed in Korea and I used Proraso green cream in a tube and it worked fine. If you have a bath and body works at the local mall they have Bigelow cream. Its exactly the same thing as Proraso green. Exactly. Just in case you felt like going to the mall this weekend to look... Side note--- lots of folks have had a real tough time getting MWF to lather with hard water. Just in case you were thinking of that.

 

[CHefJohnboyardee]

I had a dickens of a time with hard water in one house then my next rental house 40 miles away with hard water lathered great... I don't get it but I use Proraso soap everyday. I have some cream that I need to try but I can't bring myself to open the box. Once it gets cold I may go back to TOBS Sandalwood... Maybe not. I'm enjoying the Proraso too much now that I can get it to actually lather.

 

[BigKahuna]

To be clear, I LOVE the TOBS! Smell, tradition and so-forth!
Also, I am 99.5% happy with Omega soap!
Just want "more"