Utopia Clone #3 Perfecting Nirvanha

[Cape Brewing]

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But the opera ain't over till the fat guy sings, and I gutz a great voice. You don't really think I'm going to throw my hands up in the air and say, "Oh well, I guess I'll just pour it down the drain. Better luck next time." You know me better than that. I'll get it done , if only so I don't have to listen to you carping about it for the rest of my life.

Whoa whoa... time out... just so everyone else is clear.... and I know you're clear on this from our conversation on this very topic yesterday...

I have a fair amount of faith that it'll GET DONE... eventually...

That's not the issue here. The issue here is you insisting on changing the yeast strategy this year away from what had worked perfectly two previous times. The issue is me telling you two things, 1) you're a moron for going with the MegaTun, untested, on THIS beer. While you proved me wrong and I took my lumps like a man, I still think it was dumb not even testing the thing first. 2) you're a moron for thinking you were going to ferment this thing out with a small pale starter... REGARDLESS of what Mr. Malty told you your yeast count needed to be.

I took my lumps on the megatun... and now the cows have come home to roost on the yeast... so get comfortable.

 

[the_bird]

I do believe one of the agreements that Paulie and Yeager came to originally was "change only one variable at a time!," which was completely tossed out by changing both the mash tun AND the fermentation.

 

[paulthenurse]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

 

[the_bird]

So it's not that you're a TOTAL ****tard, Paulie, it's just that you weren't smaht enough to follow your own damn advice.

 

[DakotaRules]

How much of that starter did you toss in?

 

[paulthenurse]

Uhhhhhhhhh...

 

[the_bird]

Hey Dakota, how you gonna ferment your Crystal-Brau?

 

[yeager1977]

FYI the u2 brew was a brown ale starter and it went fine. The starter for u3 would have been fine if Paul had not decided to offer up large quantity shares to others. If we had kept to say 13 gallons like was originally planned we would have had a nice starter. Instead that starter was spread across 24 gallons thus cutting the yeast count in half for each 12 gallon fermentation. So basically next year the rule is 13 gallons and Paul can shut the f up about shares for others. Next year no showing off.... Or running his mouth about the awesome beer he can brew.......

 

[DakotaRules]

Hey Dakota, how you gonna ferment your Crystal-Brau?

safbrew s-33 X 2

 

[paulthenurse]

Next year no showing off.... Or running his mouth about the awesome beer he can brew.......

And that's going to be fun HOW?

 

[paulthenurse]

safbrew s-33 X 2

I'd suggest maybe 200 units of regular insulin.

PTN

 

[DakotaRules]

Yes it'll be sweet, but I'm also adding other ingredients to get the result I want. Don't try to change the subject Paul, this roasting is for you. We can start another thread about me and see where that goes...right back here to flame you.

 

[the_bird]

What's the grist on this beer going to be? How many pounds of crystal was that, you say?

 

[Cape Brewing]

Um.... I dont think this thread is titled "dakota's 60 thread"

Lets keep the focus on Paul's yeast expertise.


I am currently sitting in the Cisco Brewpub in Logan with an IPA in front if me. I'm waiting for my flight out to Vail for five days. Dont worry though, I have my phone and will be able to continue monitoring Paul's epic fail on the yeast plan.

 

[Cape Brewing]

I gotta forward a link to this thread to some other folks. I think there a few folks wpukd join HBT just for this.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Next year no showing off.... Or running his mouth about the awesome beer he can brew.......

LOL!!! I just saw this post!!! That's awesome!!! Yeager put on tge big boy pants, bailed on Paul instantly and triend flipping sides to the dark side!!!

Tremendous!!!

Paul!! Are you gonna stand for that kind of insubbordination!?!?

(i can't put into words how great this hour is.. A nice IPA, Paul taking it square in the pooper and on my way to effin Vail. I love right now)

 

[yeager1977]

Remeber i said this next year: no 24 frickin gallons!!!!! 13 is max!!!

 

[Cape Brewing]

LOL. Whatever helps you sleep dude. Lemme know ehen you are gonna put Paul in his place and ban the megatun for next year. I wanna pull up a chair.

 

[yeager1977]

Mega Tun is welcome and will be used next year for 13 gallons and 13 gallons only!!!!

 

[Cape Brewing]

LOL!! Ok. Again. Lemme know when you're gonna lay down the law. I want video.

 

[the_bird]

What, you going to chintz me out of my three-bottle share of U4?

Speaking of which, those two bottles you owe me, Cape? The bottles you gave me for the propane? Those tanks weren't dead soldiers, there's a half-tank of propane left in each. Pretty sure the tanks froze. Probably want to set up some warm-water baths for the propane next year.

 

[paulthenurse]

It's always fun to watch Yeager get all indignant and start acting large and in charge.


Sure Chris, whatever you say.

PTN

 

[paulthenurse]

We can put them in the Mega Tun. It keeps stuff at a perfect 152*F

Just sayin'

PTN

 

[Cape Brewing]

Bird.... Please.... Gimme some credit. I got your back. Don't sweat it.

 

[Cape Brewing]

That's right Yeager. You just sit and do what Paul says!!!

 

[Cape Brewing]

We can put them in the Mega Tun. It keeps stuff at a perfect 152*F

Just sayin'

PTN

Aaaaaaaahhhhh hahaahaha!!!!

I mock your little "but I was right about the megatun" attempt tp deflect from your epic yeast fail.

 

[the_bird]

That's right Yeager. You just sit and do what Paul says!!!

Yeager never posts a lot. Does Paulie keep him under lock and key, like The Gimp? Just let him out a couple times a week for some bread, water, and sodomy?

 

[DakotaRules]

Cape are you skiing?

 

[paulthenurse]

Hopefully he gets lots and lots of snow. Tons of snow. Every night. Windblown snow, loading up on the slopes. Preferably about 35 degree slopes, with lots and lots and lots of fresh new snow. And Cape gets out there early to catch some first tracks.

Hey Brian, you don't ski with a shovel in your backpack, do you? No? Good.

PTN

 

[Cape Brewing]

Just landed in Dallas Fort Worth for my connection.

Yes i am skiing and sorry Rotund One, my ski pants have radar reflectors built into them.

No real snow in the forcast except for a few flurries. Lo-mid 40's predicted.

 

[DakotaRules]

That'll be beautiful!

 

[paulthenurse]

Radar reflectors? You gonna have an AWACS plane circling overhead? Do you have an IFF transponder in your jacket?

 

[Cape Brewing]

No, we're not gonna be in a lotta avalanche danger. Put it this way, the chance of me being in avalanche is about as likely as that grand starter plan you had working.

 

[Hippie]

FYI the u2 brew was a brown ale starter and it went fine. The starter for u3 would have been fine if Paul had not decided to offer up large quantity shares to others. If we had kept to say 13 gallons like was originally planned we would have had a nice starter. Instead that starter was spread across 24 gallons thus cutting the yeast count in half for each 12 gallon fermentation. So basically next year the rule is 13 gallons and Paul can shut the f up about shares for others. Next year no showing off.... Or running his mouth about the awesome beer he can brew.......

I think if those are going to be the rules, PTN may not even participate!

 

[paulthenurse]

Hey Edith,
Stifle.

PTN

 

[Cape Brewing]

Nice a freakin brown ale starter. Couldnt find a lower ABV beer to start with before pitching into an effin 1180???

Jesus... Why not just toss the yeast into water as a starter??? Hey!!! It wpuldny be stressed!!!

 

[paulthenurse]

You've made your point. I may have overthought the starter. Next time I'll know better. But we've got another starter cooking now and we'll repitch this weekend. He who laughs last laughs best.

 

[DakotaRules]

How much of a starter this time? You said you had to split this batch into 2 fermenting vessels, how much are you re-pitching in each? Once this is done fermenting does this go into a barrel or does it just get bottled?

 

[Cape Brewing]

You've made your point.

Oh!!! Oooooohhhhh. I have just begun to make my point.

My legs are still in fire. We skied Vail today.. Low 40's and not a cloud in the sky. Luckily I have some local IPAs to ease the pain. Grills fired up as well.


Paul was wayyyyyyy wrong on the yeast. Thats funny.

 

[DakotaRules]

How much of a starter this time? You said you had to split this batch into 2 fermenting vessels, how much are you re-pitching in each? Once this is done fermenting does this go into a barrel or does it just get bottled?

I'm being serious, I really want to know this.