American Pale Ale Three Floyds Zombie Dust Clone

[Baldy246]

That's a definite right on about more work and more clean up! I racked my first 2 batches. My 3rd, Pumpkin Ale, has been in the primary for 2 weeks, I won't secondary and I will see what happens. How many weeks do you primary prior to bottling or kegging?

I racked this recipe to secondary for a week and bottled yesterday. It smelled fantastic and I can't wait to try it!

 

[jammin]

That's a definite right on about more work and more clean up!

right!? brewing is already 70% clean up and Im sure Im not alone when I say.. it sucks!

How many weeks do you primary prior to bottling or kegging?

yet another hotly debated topic.

i watch attenuation like a hawk. as soon as the beer is done, i like to package it up. so unfortunately there is no set amount of days or weeks you can rely on.


take samples and taste the beer as it is maturing. this is gonna give you SO MUCH insight into how it is developing. with yeast's like wyeast 1968 or other non california ale types, you want to be on the look out for off flavors. things like diacetyl can be addressed if needed or you can get an idea of how adjuncts are adding to the flavor (oak, pumpkin, fruit, cocoa nibs etc).

for dry hopped beers - you can REALLY learn a lot about how the aroma and flavor are coming along by tasting the sample.


for this reason, fermenters with a spigot are very handy. opening a valve for a quick sample is a lot less involved than using a thief.

6 gallon batches are also a great idea. this leaves plenty of room for loss to trub, dry hops etc. especially samples though! it's nice to be able to pull samples at will and know you're keg will still be full to the brim.

 

[bowlersp]

brewed Aug 14, dry hopped Aug 24, bottled Aug 30, sampled Sep 5th. This beer was fully carbed in the bottle after only 6 days. I now understand why this beer is so popular. The tropical fruit from this beer is like nothing I've ever had before. Simply amazing. Calling this beer a citrus bomb is an understatement.

 

[NickAus]

Hi guys,

Unfortunately my internet connection is really slow, so I don't have to trawl through 151 pages of info, can anyone please tell me if the recipe on page 1 has been modified? And if so what page I should check?

Thank you very much for this recipe Skeezer, I look forward to trying this one. I haven't had an IPA from a USA brewery yet, can't wait to try a bottle of this one and also Dogfish Head 60 min IPA.

If you guys get the chance, the Feral Brewing Hop Hog (Australia) is a really nice IPA, my current favourite and well worth a try.

 

[mtnagel]

Yes Nick, that is the most current recipe.

And I was in Australia last year and the Hop Hog was one of the better IPA's I had (it was tough finding some hoppy beers in the smaller cities I visited; a little easier in the big cities). Mornington and Fig Tree were also good IPAs I had over there.

 

[Nagorg]

And NickAus... It's a dang good recipe! I've brewed it only once so far but it has been a hit with everyone that has tried it; Even SWMBO likes it and she's not generally a fan of my hop'ier brews. I have it on my "brew again list" but it's behind my holiday seasonal's right now. It's brew day will come around again soon!

 

[NickAus]

Yes Nick, that is the most current recipe.

And I was in Australia last year and the Hop Hog was one of the better IPA's I had (it was tough finding some hoppy beers in the smaller cities I visited; a little easier in the big cities). Mornington and Fig Tree were also good IPAs I had over there.

Cool thanks Matt! I haven't tried those IPAs yet, I'm in North Queensland, so we don't get a huge selection either unfortunately.

 

[NickAus]

And NickAus... It's a dang good recipe! I've brewed it only once so far but it has been a hit with everyone that has tried it; Even SWMBO likes it and she's not generally a fan of my hop'ier brews. I have it on my "brew again list" but it's behind my holiday seasonal's right now. It's brew day will come around again soon!

Great, thank you Nagorg! I'll have to try and find a bottle somehow over here (if it even comes here?!), or wait til I get to the states, as I won't have a clue if my brew ends up close or not lol. Oh well, as long as it's good.. Hopefully everything should be here tomorrow, so might brew soon... I need more kegs..

Fortunately or unfortunately SWMBO loves IPAs.. Fortunate in the sense that brewing expenditure is easily approved, unfortunate as she drinks half

 

[mtnagel]

Cool thanks Matt! I haven't tried those IPAs yet, I'm in North Queensland, so we don't get a huge selection either unfortunately.

The beer selection in Townsville and Cairns was pretty bad (for hoppy beers). It was a little better in Sydney and Melbourne, so you should get down there

 

[campbellmike]

Nick, I was at Three Floyds Brewery last week and they only had ZD on tap. It's difficult to find ANYWHERE and distribution is very limited. I suggest you plan a trip to Munster, Indiana (Chicago metro area). Cheers!

This clone recipe thread has taken on a life of it's own. Two years seven months and it's still very active. Congrats Skeezer and thank you!

 

[Wes440]

Brewed my 5.5 gal batch on 8/19/14, just racked to secondary for dry hopping yesterday, so it was on the yeast for 3 weeks and it's tasting great so far.
OG: 1.067
SG as of yesterday: 1.016
It's been there for 1 week.

Dry hopping with 3 oz. of whole Citra
Thanks for the recipe Skeezer!

 

[NickAus]

The beer selection in Townsville and Cairns was pretty bad (for hoppy beers). It was a little better in Sydney and Melbourne, so you should get down there

Thanks mtnagel, I'm near Cairns. There are two craft breweries now, one just closed down unfortunately though. I haven't tried the second one yet. I will soon though. I am in Sydney and Canberra next month and plan to drink myself silly...

 

[NickAus]

Nick, I was at Three Floyds Brewery last week and they only had ZD on tap. It's difficult to find ANYWHERE and distribution is very limited. I suggest you plan a trip to Munster, Indiana (Chicago metro area). Cheers!

This clone recipe thread has taken on a life of it's own. Two years seven months and it's still very active. Congrats Skeezer and thank you!

thanks. Hmmm I really think they should post me a bottle for a review lol, just kidding. Indiana is actually on my list, I have friends there somewhere, so I'd better pop in and say hello.

 

[ultravista]

Subscribing

 

[olotti]

Just to cont how good This recipe is went over a buddies house tonight and he had a friend in from Ind home of 3 Floyd's said he gets cases of this stuff. Glad I brought this clone for him to try and he said it's spot on damn identical. Feel good knowing if u brew it correctly its as good as the real thing. I'm brewing another batch next week and am going to mash in a little higher around 154-55 as the real ones I had were a little fuller/ sweeter and see if that doesn't hit the taste exactly. Mine dropped to 1.010 so its a touch drier but the hops were so more pronounced than the real zd Idk I may just keep it that way. Either way great recipe.

 

[NickAus]

Okay guys, I have all the malt but forgot to order Citra (insert slap head icon now).. So I have Galaxy, Simcoe and Nelson Sauvin on hand... Should I have a crack with Galaxy perhaps, or buy some Citra (I'll have to wait about a week which will suck, but I can do it if I must)... Or should I go bat**** crazy and put a mix of all three in, which might be horrible...

 

[Nagorg]

The Citra hops really make this beer what it is... If you want to experience this recipe, get Citra!

 

[Tony269]

The Citra hops really make this beer what it is... If you want to experience this recipe, get Citra!

Are you using the recipe that is on the first page?

 

[Nagorg]

yes... the one that started the thread. delicious!!!

 

[Tony269]

yes... the one that started the thread. delicious!!!

awesome, thanks for the quick response, so I am confused on the HOP additions, is this only a 15 min boil? It says a hop addition is 1.25 ounces at 15 mins then the First Wort Hop of .75 oz when is this added?

Also, I have some confusion with the dry hopping, 3 ounces of Citra at 5-7 days, does that mean you are putting in all three ounces 7 days before kegging?

1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 21.1 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop) Hops 17.0 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 5-7 days) Hops - (used to say 10, i use 5-7 now)
SafAle English Ale (S-04)

Thanks for all your help!

 

[milldoggy]

60 min boil. I just think the order is screwed up. This recipe does not have a 60 minute hop addition

 

[skeezerpleezer]

60 min boil. I just think the order is screwed up. This recipe does not have a 60 minute hop addition

The first addition is the first wort hop. I believe it's like that because BeerSmith arranges them by their IBU contribution and that is where I copied and pasted from.

 

[Steve3730]

Made my 3rd attempt at this beer this weekend. 1st time I was off. Abv was 7.4% Citra did not come through at all. 2nd attempt I nailed it 6.8% Citra shined through and I had friends beating down the door for some. So seeing if I can repeat 3rd attempt OG was 1.064 and we're bubbling away in the airlock

 

[Tony269]

The first addition is the first wort hop. I believe it's like that because BeerSmith arranges them by their IBU contribution and that is where I copied and pasted from.

Sorry, I guess I am still new to brewing, when do you add the "first wort hop" to the boil? 60 mins?

0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop "60 mins???") Hops 17.0 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 21.1 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 5-7 days) Hops - (used to say 10, i use 5-7 now)

 

[Jay-Brew]

Sorry, I guess I am still new to brewing, when do you add the "first wort hop" to the boil? 60 mins?

0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop "60 mins???") Hops 17.0 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 21.1 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 5-7 days) Hops - (used to say 10, i use 5-7 now)

Others correct me if I am wrong on technique.... I did my first runnings and then added the 0.75 oz of Citra. Did my sparge, added it to the first runnings and then did my boil. That is my understanding of what a first wort hop is.

 

[finsfan]

Others correct me if I am wrong on technique.... I did my first runnings and then added the 0.75 oz of Citra. Did my sparge, added it to the first runnings and then did my boil. That is my understanding of what a first wort hop is.

Exactly. You add the hops as soon as you get wort, before you start the boil.

 

[marvinsjunk]

I do BIAB and I added the first wort hop when I pulled the bag. Let the hops sit and the bag drain for 15 min or so before lighting the fire. Worked well, nice smooth bitterness.

 

[copper2hopper]

Thank you!!!! I had the exact same confusion!!!! But after much deliberation I discovered you just switch the FWH and the 15 minute addition around in the order they are listed there and your good to go. It's a 60 minute boil with your .75 oz FWH, THEN the 15, 10, 5, 1 minute 1.25oz additions. Good luck and enjoy! I'm bottling this one in four days. Can't wait!

 

[Nagorg]

Yes, the hop additions are in the order of the minutes left in the boil. I see that the original recipe lists FWH and 15min out of order. The first wort hops are added to the boil kettle when you start the sparge. They are not taken out until "the end" which for me is after whirlpooling for brews with late addition hops.

I'm sipping my ZD brew right now and its very tasty!

 

[Nagorg]

And as I sit here continuing to sip on this ZD clone, I am reminded of just how good it is and further compelled to let all of you know that! Just brew it!