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Decided to brew inside today to try and catch the football games. Did a 2.5 gallon batch. Full mash (2 gallons) and manual batch sparge(2.5 gallons). Full boil. 2.9 gallon into the fermenter. Hops: .5 oz at fwh then .75 oz for the other additions. (Alpha 11.4% and beta 3.0% 2012 so added 25% extra) Hit 1.062. Aroma is awesome.

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Getting ready to cold crash this Thursday after adding some gelatin. My question though:

For those who have made this how much priming sugar did you use? Or what was your CO2 volume you were aiming for? This is listed as an APA but with the ingredients and everything seems more like an IPA.
 
Mashing this right now as my first all-grain brew. The grain bill smells amazing.
 
Had to adjust the hops a little bit though my AA is tad higher than the recipe
 
Well had some hiccups here and there last night. Managed to hit my numbers for the most part except the batch size I wanted. I topped off with sterilized water and it was still at a OG of about 1.063. I am happy with that. Decided I need a wort chiller sooner than later as it was a mess to get down to 70 degrees last night. I don't know why but once it hit 80 it did not want to drop anymore. Either way, its bubbling happily downstairs at 64-65 degrees. Cant wait!
 
Ok fellow brewers, need some help. Made this and was thinking that I'd be ok with just a smack pack of yeast for this 5 gallon batch. I mean it's 66 points right. Yes I know I should have done a starter in retrospect.

However, we didn't even come close to our numbers because my brother in law added way too much DME. Long story short it was his first beer making experience and I turned around as he was dumping the last 3 pound bag of DME when we only needed a pound out of it. Needless to say we hit 86 points on this bad boy.

Fermentation was...excessive and furious. But now 21 days later I'm only down to 31 points. Calculating that out it comes out to 64% attenuation and it's supposed to be between 68 and 72%. I'm all but sure the yeasties are gone and I dry hopped 10 days ago like the recipe said. So my question is with the pelleted dry hops in there what should I do?? I was going to cold crash it but I think that's a bad idea at this point.

Do I get the temp back up to 70 degrees and leave it for another week with the dry hops in there? My other problem is that I'm starting to think it's close to where grassy flavors will be imparted because of the dry hops right? Thoughts or ideas are appreciated. Oh and I tasted the sample and it's not as dry as an IPA would be expected but it's also not as sickly sweet as I'd expect for still being at 31 points.

Edit: I decided that with under attenuation that it wasn't a good idea to cold crash. So I moved it back to the bath tub and started up a water bath for it. Next thing I know I'm seeing the trub start to bubble up, hop material get moved around and it looks like I've set off secondary fermentation. I just hope I haven't introduced oxidation.
 
I would like to brew this, have never tried it but like the sound of it and have enjoyed other Three Floyds beer. I only have 5oz of Citra leaf left, after adjusting the recipe for a 5.5gal batch I would need 8oz. Any good ideas oh how to make this work? I have lots of Columbus, Bravo, Belma, Cascade, Pearle and Willamette. And some Centennial, Mosaic, Chinook, Falconers Flight and Northern Brewer.


I apologize if this has been asked before, I read 30 or so of the 81 pages of this thread and didn't see a good answer.

I finally got to try my brew this weekend and think it turned out great! But I've never tried the real version so have nothing to compare it to, I had to make some changes to work with what hops were left in the freezer from last year.

.75 Chinook FWH
.625 Citra @ 15, 10, 5, and 0
.5 Mosaic @ 15, 10, 5, and 0
2.5 Citra Dry Hop 10 days

As usual lately I screwed up and forgot whirlfloc during the boil so I let it cold crash longer than usual as part of the dry hop time.

Thanks for the help! I can't wait to get more Citra and brew with the original recipe.
 
I finally got to try my brew this weekend and think it turned out great! But I've never tried the real version so have nothing to compare it to, I had to make some changes to work with what hops were left in the freezer from last year.

.75 Chinook FWH
.625 Citra @ 15, 10, 5, and 0
.5 Mosaic @ 15, 10, 5, and 0
2.5 Citra Dry Hop 10 days

As usual lately I screwed up and forgot whirlfloc during the boil so I let it cold crash longer than usual as part of the dry hop time.

Thanks for the help! I can't wait to get more Citra and brew with the original recipe.

This hop bill looks extremely interesting to me. I've done so many all Citra brews lately that now all Citra brews aren't quite doing it for me. Please let us know how this turned out. I haven't really heard how Chinook turns out as FWH paired with Citra.

I really liked how my last APA turned out, which as all Citra, but I'm trying out an APA with more hop complexity to see how it turns out. I may have overdone the hops, but we will see. I did a 6 gal batch with a very simple grain bill of two row and c-20, and added a pound of hops. A good mix of Columbus, Simcoe, and Centennial, with a splash (1 oz) of Chinook thrown in. Double dry hop of 6 oz (2 oz each of Columbus, Centennial, Simcoe). Adding the second dry hop tonight. Really looking forward to try this one.
 
This hop bill looks extremely interesting to me. I've done so many all Citra brews lately that now all Citra brews aren't quite doing it for me. Please let us know how this turned out. I haven't really heard how Chinook turns out as FWH paired with Citra.

I really liked how my last APA turned out, which as all Citra, but I'm trying out an APA with more hop complexity to see how it turns out. I may have overdone the hops, but we will see. I did a 6 gal batch with a very simple grain bill of two row and c-20, and added a pound of hops. A good mix of Columbus, Simcoe, and Centennial, with a splash (1 oz) of Chinook thrown in. Double dry hop of 6 oz (2 oz each of Columbus, Centennial, Simcoe). Adding the second dry hop tonight. Really looking forward to try this one.

That's an assload of hops.
 
I did an IPA last weekend. Used the ZD grain bill (upped to 1.078) and over 13oz of Citra, Nelson Sauvin, and Simcoe in the last 15 minutes. It smells and tastes great already, albeit green. It's getting 4.5-6 oz of dryhop (1.5-2 oz of each that were in the boil). Can't wait.
 
Nice, I've got a citra, galaxy, simcoe fermenting along with the ZD. How do you like Nelson?

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Dry hopped mine last night, FG was spot on. Already tasted good, can't wait to get it into bottles and carbed up!:mug:
 
Chinook, Citra and Mosaic go together amazingly well. I make an IPA that is primarily hopped with Mosaic and Chinook as flavor/aroma additions after 10min, then dry hopped with Citra and the Mosaic. It's delicious, i think the other two hops really bring out the flavor profile of the Citra.
 
Racked my ZD to the secondary today. Looks, smells, and tastes beautiful. Already Super clear!

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I must have done something wrong. Mine is so much darker

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Ya I don't think it should be much darker

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What carb levels were people going for?

I've found 2.1 - 2.6 volumes of CO2 seems to be about right for an IPA but just wanted to verify. I'll be bottling this tonight and don't want to over carb.
 
Mine finished bottle conditioning a couple days ago and this is an amazing brew. It needs to sit a little longer to clarify but the flavor and aroma is incredible.

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Just finished my fourth round with this recipe…phenomenal.

I brew with some guys who are beer travelers, Santa Rosa, Seattle, Paso Robles, Chico--we've got great beer experience in our inner circle--I was floored when it was uttered that this beer was about as good as it gets.

Color is perfect, great carbonation, wonderful floral hop notes, tremendous glass webbing, and great mouth feel. It is simply exceptional. Thanks for posting this tremendous recipe.

I've had almost all of the countries great IPAs and IIPAs the only two that have eluded me are Pliny the Younger and Zombie Dust…I sure wish I could try a Zombie Dust to see where I'm at. If the original is better I may have to move to Indiana.

I'll post some pics later, planning a small "opening" for the Super Bowl.
 
Bottled my first attempt at this one last night. Already tastes delicious. Can't wait for it to carb up and chill!
 
Brewed my first batch of the recipe last weekend. Was wondering if the cold crashing is a necessary step? I have never done this before and I am not sure if I am up for it.
 
Skeezer, et al.

I joined this forum today specifically for the purpose of singing this recipe’s praises. I made the 5-gallon PM version but used a 5 # grain bill. So 2.5 lbs 2-Row and 4.5 lbs. DME. Everything else in the recipe remained the same. Used Wyeast 1968 with a 1L starter on a stir plate and dry-hopped for 9 days. 2 weeks bottle conditioning at room temp, 1 more week conditioning in the fridge. The end result? WOW is this sh*t good! I absolutely love it! I’ve had ZD many times, especially the old recipe when it was 100% citra, and I have to say this is damn close. What an amazing recipe. Thanks so much for sharing. I plan on making this again, and again, and again, and again… probably trying different yeasts along the way. Think I'll use S-04 on the next one and see how that turns out. Then probably WLP001 on the third batch.


Brewed my first batch of the recipe last weekend. Was wondering if the cold crashing is a necessary step? I have never done this before and I am not sure if I am up for it.

Cold crashing isn't necessary. I didn't cold crash mine and it turned out fine. It was clearer before the dry hop, but still looks great to me. Here's a pic:

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Skeezer, et al.

I joined this forum today specifically for the purpose of singing this recipe’s praises. I made the 5-gallon PM version but used a 5 # grain bill. So 2.5 lbs 2-Row and 4.5 lbs. DME. Everything else in the recipe remained the same. Used Wyeast 1968 with a 1L starter on a stir plate and dry-hopped for 9 days. 2 weeks bottle conditioning at room temp, 1 more week conditioning in the fridge. The end result? WOW is this sh*t good! I absolutely love it! I’ve had ZD many times, especially the old recipe when it was 100% citra, and I have to say this is damn close. What an amazing recipe. Thanks so much for sharing. I plan on making this again, and again, and again, and again… probably trying different yeasts along the way. Think I'll use S-04 on the next one and see how that turns out. Then probably WLP001 on the third batch.




Cold crashing isn't necessary. I didn't cold crash mine and it turned out fine. It was clearer before the dry hop, but still looks great to me. Here's a pic:

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I am glad you enjoyed it. Welcome to the forum!
 
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