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[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

The problem with bringing in replays though is where do you draw the line? It's not like American football, or tennis, where you have a sport with constant breaks - a play or a serve, then there's the ability to review if needed.

I agree. It would need to be kept simple, and for the most basic of judgements. That is why I specifically said that this should not override the ref.

If technology were allowed to slow down the game for more than 15 seconds, then we would have commercials during the game......And that could not be tolerated.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

I am pissed I was busy this weekend and forgot to make my group predictions. I missed 4 matches and probably have no chance already...

 

[Joker]

I didn't mean that game was the "greatest comeback". I meant it as more of a general term for any team looking like crap for half or more of a game and coming back to win it. I don't feel the US game was the greatest comeback but they did play a hell of a half and should have all the goals count..... as should any other team.

I think the one thing that is still annoying me the most is (as far as I know) the Ref has never had to defend his call. He hasn't stated any foul nor has he stated who the foul was on. Just seems a bit fishy to me that this is allowed in a game at this level.

 

[bob1852]

A goal changes the nature of the game. It's that simple.

In the case og Germany V England, had Englands second "Goal" counted, then it would have been a great comeback for that portion of the game. England would still have lost in the end because germany were the better team, but it would more likley have been 3-2. The goals, and their timing are critical to the way a team defends or attacks. Especially in a knock-out competition.

Well said. England (or Englar as the announcers say ) wouldn't have been attacking 9 if it was a 2-2 game in the 67th & 70th minute.

The German counter attack goals were the NBA equivalent of break away lay-ups when the other team is in a desperate situation.

 

[arturo7]

Replay should be instituted for goals and only goals.

Give an off-field official all the necessary equipment and let him make the call. The official has a minute or two to make a decision, no need to stop play. If the call on the field is over-turned the time spent to review the call is added at the end of the half like injury time.

 

[Memorex88]

I love this debating! Who says there aren't any soccer fans in the States!

Brazil vs Chile on deck enjoying a beautiful Kolsch WOOT!

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Replay should be instituted for goals and only goals.

Give an off-field official all the necessary equipment and let him make the call. The official has a minute or two to make a decision, no need to stop play. If the call on the field is over-turned the time spent to review the call is added at the end of the half like injury time.

I could go along with that. With the exception that the final decision should always be with the ref and not his assistants.

There is enough time after a goal is scored while the players reset to do this.

 

[user 40839]

I could go along with that. With the exception that the final decision should always be with the ref and not his assistants.

There is enough time after a goal is scored while the players reset to do this.

Yep, that'd work.

Another thing that UEFA was doing in the Europa League was using two extra officials, one behind each goal. It amounts to four linesmen - two on each side. That way if one linesman misses it, there's someone there to make the call. Blatter's firmly against this though, which I think it a load of bollocks. (Blatter's a load of bollocks, full stop, anyways...)

 

[Memorex88]

I really like that idea. Goal judge! Hockey could use that too

 

[bob1852]

Yep, that'd work.

Another thing that UEFA was doing in the Europa League was using two extra officials, one behind each goal. It amounts to four linesmen - two on each side. That way if one linesman misses it, there's someone there to make the call. Blatter's firmly against this though, which I think it a load of bollocks. (Blatter's a load of bollocks, full stop, anyways...)

I really like that idea. Goal judge! Hockey could use that too

and the goal judge could "point out" scores in a creepy way like they do in Aussie rules football?

 

[Joker]

Anyone have a site to watch or listen to the games on? Apparently ESPN3 isn't making it so easy to view the games anymore.

 

[arturo7]

I could go along with that. With the exception that the final decision should always be with the ref and not his assistants.

The call should be made by the off-field official. If the ruling on the field is "no goal," play continues and there is no chance for the ref to get off without stopping play.

 

[arturo7]

and the goal judge could "point out" scores in a creepy way like they do in Aussie rules football?

That would be flippin' great!

 

[Hugh_Jass]

Anyone have a site to watch or listen to the games on? Apparently ESPN3 isn't making it so easy to view the games anymore.

http://atdhe.net/20892/watch-brazil-vs-chile

 

[Joker]

http://atdhe.net/20892/watch-brazil-vs-chile

Thank you.

 

[Memorex88]

Hell of a game so far!

 

[Joker]

Brazil is bringing it.

 

[Memorex88]

Wow! 2 beautiful goals!!! I hate Brazil!

 

[Memorex88]

Good game. I might mention, I really like this ref. He's right in their face and not card happy! Makes for great futball!

 

[user 40839]

Good game. I might mention, I really like this ref. He's right in their face and not card happy! Makes for great futball!

He's doing really well in the World Cup.

However, when he's reffing in the Premiership, he's a biased bag of ****e:

 

[Memorex88]

Pierluigi Collina was a great ref!!

 

[Memorex88]

How could you not be scared of a ref that looks like this! Shuts you up real fast!

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

I loved the ref in the Italy game. "Get off your ass!" He was yelling at cry babies every time someone went down. Awesome!

What country was he from?

Howard Webb, English, works in the Premier league.

Good game. I might mention, I really like this ref. He's right in their face and not card happy! Makes for great futball!

He's doing really well in the World Cup.

However, when he's reffing in the Premiership, he's a biased bag of ****e:

He is by far my favorite ref of the tourny so far.

 

[ChshreCat]

How could you not be scared of a ref that looks like this! Shuts you up real fast!

I loved him back when he was lead singer for Midnight Oil!

 

[Memorex88]

I loved him back when he was lead singer for Midnight Oil!

Good one ChshreCat!

Damn 3 nil. Would have loved to see a close game.

Did I mention I hate Brazil?

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Did I mention I hate Brazil?

I'd love to hate them, but I can't. In the end, you always have to bow to excellence, even when they are sometimes less than excellent.

 

[Memorex88]

Gnome... I hate them because there so good. And because they have 5 world cups to MY Italy's 4. (Please don't razz me for this year's team)
Because of this, I want some... ANYONE else to take the cup.
I would really like a New country to win, like Portugal, or the Netherlands which haven't taken one yet but are always there. Germany looks real good to take it.

Anyway... I hate Brazil

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Gnome... I hate them because there so good. And because they have 5 world cups to MY Italy's 4. (Please don't razz me for this year's team)
Because of this, I want some... ANYONE else to take the cup.
I would really like a New country to win, like Portugal, or the Netherlands which haven't taken one yet but are always there. Germany looks real good to take it.

Anyway... I hate Brazil

Oh, I know what you mean all right! I can hate them in the sense that they are better than my team.... What really grinds my gears though, are teams like Argentina, who get too much respect. They are NOT a great team, but always seem to cheat their way into success.

I don't really want to bang on too much about the England V Germany game, as everyone already knows where I stand.....But it WAS refreshing to see the players play the game, and not go all theatrical on our asses. Brazil are not too bad for that as a latin team, so respect to them. Argentina however, are some of the biggest cry babies out ther. i hope they crash and burn in all future events.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Holland has been my pick from the beginning of the tourny.

Oh, and I am on the board! But I thought Chile would score (I guessed 3-1 Brasil). So close.

 

[Reno_eNVy]

I think I'm a bit late to the "institute instant replays in soccer" conversation, but that should not happen. It would ruin the flow of the game, probably make refs lazy, and every single half would have the maximum allotted 5' stoppage time.

Here's what should happen instead of the instant replay: put in a 4th ref. Put him on a little table between both team's benches with sound-proof headphones and little TV on which he can manipulate the feed (slow/fast/angles.) But then the problem arises of "who draws the line of what should be reviewed?" In American football it seems there's always a box review... so what's the point of the numerous refs on the field? Solution: each side gets 3 (or 5... maybe 5) opportunities in which to signal the main field ref for a review. From the time the ref blows the whistle and does the proper hand signal (who knows what it could be) the 4th ref will have 10 seconds to make a call. The entire transaction would take no less than 15 seconds (no more than it takes for a substitution.) I feel like that could fix a lot of the bulls*** and maybe even cut down on the acting.