The Walking dead

[frankdontsurf]

What about Jesus, the van that went into the lake?

 

[TwistedGray]

They did get a lot of guns from the Saviors they killed. They were keeping inventory of their own guns but I wonder about the guns that they captured, were those part of the inventory system they had going in Alexandria? I know Negan knew that they had a lot of the Saviors guns but would he know the difference between the guns the Alexandrians already had vs the guns they got from their Savior raids? Though it does sound like the Saviors like to carve symbols into their guns.

AH! Good point, that sniper rifle that they turned in late was NOT on the list.

 

[TwistedGray]

Anyone know what happened to Rick's Colt Python? I never saw anyone take it.

Was it taken during the skull bashing showdown?

 

[GrogNerd]

It was in its holster on his hip when they got caught, then not

Brought up fairly early in the Fat Joey vid posted earlier

 

[Patrick87]

Fat Joey has it.

Ah ok, I forgot that the Saviors disarmed them on the last episode of season 6.

 

[lupulinaddict]

Did michonne have another rifle in the bag at the end?

 

[BigPicture]

I can only hope!

I was thinking Carol would come in & save the day. But if Rick does it, that's even better.

I remember watching "Misery" the 1st time and screaming at the TV..........................

If this series takes this turn..................... it will rank right up there! I was ready to bag whole TV thing. You comic guys have a huge advantage on us.

 

[TwistedGray]

You comic guys have a huge advantage on us.

Nah, they are really not the same.

 

[m_c_zero]

I was really damn surprised that Negan let Michone keep her sword.

 

[dmtaylor]

I was really damn surprised that Negan let Michone keep her sword.

Same here. Maybe the writers are trying to establish that Negan is just THAT different from the Governor.

 

[Zuljin]

I haven't seen any helicopters in a while, and I still say there is an unaccounted for helicopter that the group saw a long while back while they were walking in a field.

 

[bobbrews]

Long time fan since inception, but I must comment on the horrible acting this season. Aside from Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan), everyone else is awful. He steals the show, despite the lagging plot.

 

[Zuljin]

This was a story building episode to get us to the next action.

I think Negan's guy who went to Hilltop may be trying to be a little too Negan. People kneel to the Negan, not the we are all Negan.

 

[Talgrath]

Another episode catching us up on the various members of the group, this time focusing on Hilltop. Sweet Jesus kung-fu action!

Gregory is Gonna Die
No two ways about it, Gregory may have saved his own skin this time by offering up some rare scotch, but someone is gonna kill this bastard, or let him die in a zombie attack or something. The Saviors know that Hilltop had something to do with Alexandria attacking them, and I think they're well aware that it wasn't Gregory and his group that saved Hilltop from the zombie attack they orchestrated. My guess is the Saviors will eventually off Gregory, and then Maggie will be in charge. If not? I'm guessing that Sasha will off him.

Maggie and Sasha Prove Their Worth
While Gregory cowered in his room, Sasha, Jesus and Maggie put an end to the zombie horde while also orchestrating the defenders of Hilltop to close the gates and stop more from coming through. It's an act that Gregory could never do and it showed the people of Hilltop what a little bravery can do to save lives...perhaps they'll take heart if/when Maggie takes over.

Carl Kisses Enid, Finds Jesus
The other third or so of the episode was Carl and Enid traveling to the Hilltop together, ostensibly to see Maggie; but Carl actually intended to go find Negan and kill him, it's the culmination of a weird sort of dynamic they have in which they're both heading in opposite directions. Personally, I think it's a really dumb idea on Carl's part, fortunately for Carl though, Jesus the kung-fu ninja is with him, so maybe this will work out for the better.

 

[m_c_zero]

Hilltop is just plain worthless aside from Jesus. When they sent in that car and all the zombies, where was everyone? Just hiding in their trailers?

Aside from the doctor, I don't see that they provide anything to our group.

 

[Talgrath]

Well, the main addition they provide is food, apparently, and farming expertise; an army marches on its stomach and all. That was the reason Maggie originally made the deal, they needed food. Combat wise, the folks of Hilltop don't really seem to have the stomach for it...yet.

 

[Zuljin]

I figure about two years has passed in TWD time. Judith is the calendar. Figure she wasn't conceived on day one of the outbreak. Add at least a month. Add nine months for Lori's pregnancy. Judith, who we don't see much, looks about one year old.

A lot has happened in about two years. The outbreak and so far as we can tell the total collapse of the system. That all went to crap fast. The CDC adventure. Hershel's farm. The Prison/Governor. The hospital/Darryl and those guys/Beth. Terminus. Alexandria/Wolves. Saviors. All the other incidentals.

Given all that, and with the understanding that Rick's group of nomads has been cutting a bloody swath through humanity and zombianity alike, three things.

Thing one. How are there fat people left? No one is sitting on the sofa eating sugar coated roasted chocolate peanuts and drinking homebrew while posting on the internet.

Thing two. Okay. Folks in walled communities may not be as bad ass as Rick's marauders, but I'd expect everyone still alive to be fairly bad ass. I think the folks at Hilltop and Alexandria are portrayed as being too soft for the TWD universe.

Thing three, and it's been hinted at by a Savior last season. Are Rick's marauders really the good guys, even by TWD standards? Even Terminus had a reason for being as screwed up as they were. But Rick and crew, they're tearing across the south jacking up everyone they meet. If they don't like your way of life, they jack you up. If they want what you've got, they jack you up. They're marauders, are they not?

 

[dmtaylor]

@Zuljin,

Funny... while Judith is still only like 1 year old, Coral has aged at least 5 or 6 years!

Personally I'd figure about 3 years have passed at least. For whatever reason the management has not shown Judith to age nearly as much as they should have -- an oversight I think, or maybe on purpose if they just don't want her to develop into an important character at all, keep her out of sight as some reason in the background of why Rick does what he does. A little loss of reality there. So, Judith isn't the clock.

That being said.

Thing one. You're right. There should be zero fat people.

Thing two. You're right. No one should be soft anymore. No one.

Thing three. I don't agree. Rick's party is not made up of marauders. They're survivors. They always try to do the right thing, for both sides if possible. In situations where it's "kill or be killed", they do what they have to do. But they don't typically go out of their way to steal and murder. At least not yet... though now as subjects of Neganism, it could come to that, as I guess it has once already (killing Negan's people in their sleep).

I wonder where the hell the Wolves are, and what they'll do when they show up again. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[m_c_zero]

I would argue that they are savage but not marauders. You have to be savage to live in a world like that. I agree that they seem to impose their will wherever they go but the people that they impose their will on kind of need it. Alexandria in particular seemed really lucky that neither the Wolves nor the Saviors had stumbled upon them. If it were Alexandrians prior to our groups arrival versus a group like the Wolves or the Saviors, they would've been extinguished. Granted, most of them are dead now but at least some are still alive and I think it is mostly thanks to our group protecting them.

 

[TwistedGray]

A few non-spoilers for those of you who have not read the comic series.

1. Judith died a while ago in the comics, so anything here on out is developed by the show. Maybe they just don't give a **** about her anymore...something should've ate her episodes ago; that would've been worth watching.

2. In the comics, Carl goes to the Saviors hideout on his own.

3. In the comics, Jesus goes to the Saviors hideout on his own (kind of / sort of).

4. The Wolves don't exist in the comics.

5. There are overweight people in the comics, too (in particular the lady that manages the armory/food).

 

[dmtaylor]

I wanna see Judith turn into a baby zombie. That would kick butt.

 

[TwistedGray]

Also, in the comics the Hilltop does not bury it's dead and took offense to Alexandrians doing so. Note: In the comics only Glenn died at the hands of Negan. The ginger got taken out by a bolt (crossbow) prior (and no, not by Daryl).

 

[m_c_zero]

When is Rick gunna lose his hand? I was for sure Negan was taking him into the RV to chop his hand off. Sorely disappointed when that didn't happen...

 

[Talgrath]

When is Rick gunna lose his hand? I was for sure Negan was taking him into the RV to chop his hand off. Sorely disappointed when that didn't happen...

They've pretty much said it won't happen. For one, it's a pain in the butt to have an actor need to hide his hand and it usually requires some time in the makeup trailer ahead of time. Merle kinda did it, but it was pretty obvious the actor just had his hand in the rounded cup of his knifehand thing. Secondly, Robert Kirkman said he kind of regrets the whole "Rick loses a hand" thing, he didn't think through how much trouble missing a hand would be.

 

[TwistedGray]

When is Rick gunna lose his hand? I was for sure Negan was taking him into the RV to chop his hand off. Sorely disappointed when that didn't happen...

For those who didn't know, he lost his hand in the comics by the Governor. He did later get some weird two-prong hand thing later on though but nothing like Merle's.

 

[HoppyDaze]

A few non-spoilers for those of you who have not read the comic series.

1. Judith died a while ago in the comics, so anything here on out is developed by the show. Maybe they just don't give a **** about her anymore...something should've ate her episodes ago; that would've been worth watching.

2. In the comics, Carl goes to the Saviors hideout on his own.

3. In the comics, Jesus goes to the Saviors hideout on his own (kind of / sort of).

4. The Wolves don't exist in the comics.

5. There are overweight people in the comics, too (in particular the lady that manages the armory/food).

eff the comics

 

[HoppyDaze]

"dude, the comics..." bleh....not even the same story anymore.

 

[GrogNerd]

from what I remember, one of the first things Deanna told Rick was Alexandria was created at the beginning of the SHTF, and most of the people had never been outside the walls

and if they're enjoying having lights and running water, maybe finding survival necessities (food & shelter) is not a high priority. seems like they had plenty of food, so fat people are still fat

and GD HOLY BALLS do I want to strap Coral down and shave that emo hair off his friggin head

 

[TwistedGray]

"dude, the comics..." bleh....not even the same story anymore.

I partially disagree with that statement. You've presumably read all the comics though, so I think we'll just settle with agree to disagree.

 

[TwistedGray]

from what I remember, one of the first things Deanna told Rick was Alexandria was created at the beginning of the SHTF, and most of the people had never been outside the walls

and if they're enjoying having lights and running water, maybe finding survival necessities (food & shelter) is not a high priority. seems like they had plenty of food, so fat people are still fat

That's more-or-less the case.