The Walking dead

[ffaoe]

Jesus!! More commercials than a friggin football game...

Those advertisers are paying big bucks for this prime time slots during the season finale of one of the most popular shows on TV. Why do you think they made it 90 minutes? More time for commercials.

 

[Bulls Beers]

Seriously. From the pacing so far, I completely buy that we're going to hear the "hi, I'm Negan," cut to black, cliffhanger. But I hope not.

Umm yup....BUT, it's not over yet...

 

[Bulls Beers]

Those advertisers are paying big bucks for this prime time slots during the season finale of one of the most popular shows on TV. Why do you think they made it 90 minutes? More time for commercials.

Yea I'm sure. Could've easily been a hour or less.

 

[Zuljin]

Oh that's bull****!

 

[Bulls Beers]

Ass holes..

 

[drainbamage]

Oh that's bull****!

Ass holes..

Yup yup yup.

See you guys in October. :\

 

[Zuljin]

It was Glenn or Abraham.

 

[Bulls Beers]

It was Glenn or Abraham.

Yes, I agree. I thought maybe Coral, but no, it's one of those two.

 

[Natdavis777]

My first impression was Abraham...

 

[Natdavis777]

Seriously though, on the commercials. I pretty sure they came back from commercial, showed the RV driving down the road from a sky view, and went back to commercial.

 

[drainbamage]

My first impression was Abraham...

That was my thought too. They've been building towards it in the 2nd half of the season.

 

[m_c_zero]

Kinda hard not to kill someone by bashing them over the head with a baseball bat repeatedly.

I'm pretty sure it was Abraham as well. We saw him telling Sasha that he would be willing to have a kid with her and things were finally looking up for him in his life.

 

[MarkKF]

Seriously. From the pacing so far, I completely buy that we're going to hear the "hi, I'm Negan," cut to black, cliffhanger. But I hope not.

Pretty close

 

[dmtaylor]

I'm about 80% sure it's Abraham. Could also be the expendable Aaron, haven't seen much from him this season anyway, so no big loss.

 

[Talgrath]

Hoo boy, hell of an episode. Let's dive into it.

The Alexandrians Are Outnumbered
So, it's pretty obvious from the second encounter on that Rick and company are vastly outnumbered. The Saviors may be less competent than the Rickites overall, but they've got numbers by the boatload. The fact that Negan can risk so many people just to ensure that Rick and the rest get the message is a clear sign of how many people the Saviors have.

Who Are the Knights?
For lack of a better way to describe them, who are the knights that come up to Morgan and Carol? They ride horses, have armor and use spears, so I'd call them knights for the moment. Do they trade with the Hilltop folks? Or do they make their own spears too? Either way, it's interesting to see Morgan give up his "no killing" credo to save Carol, could he be coming around?

Enter Negan And the Wider World
Negan made his entrance, spending roughly 10-15 minutes lecturing Rick and the other survivors. The sheer numbers that Negan brought out indicate his reach and his power. With the main cast on their knees he had them shaking from fear all while making jokes about it. Clearly, Negan is a man who doesn't consider Rick and company a threat so much as an annoyance to be tamed.

So Who Got the Bat?
It's a question that is plaguing Walking Dead fans and will continue to plague them for months, who did Negan kill? The only clues we have are who isn't dead, of the "main" cast Carol and Morgan are straight out; and Negan (from the victim's POV) threatened to take out Carl's other eye if someone tried something, almost certainly indicating Rick and Carl are out...but that leaves us with a lot of people. Based on what happened in the past few episodes, I think there are three candidates: Abraham, Daryl and Eugene. A lot of folks said Abraham, but there are some strong indicators in favor of the other two. For Daryl, we have the fact that Norman Reedus has his own reality/stunt show now and the fact that he's killed a lot of Saviors, plus Daryl doesn't exist in the comics. Eugene in this last episode had some indicators pop up too, not only has he been saying "I'm a survivor", but he gave his most important information, how to make bullets, to Rick. Of course, Abraham is already dead in the comics and he's killed his fair share of Saviors too, plus he had that whole "I'm ready to have kids" discussion with Sasha, so it could be him. My strong suspicion is still on Daryl however, if only because that is a character that I think would have the most impact (pun intended) with the TV viewing crowd.

 

[lupulinaddict]

My first thought was Abraham because the way neegan said, "taking it like a champ", it seemed as he was the only brave one on the line.

But, I think Maggie. Everyone went on the road trip because they cared so much for her. Her being pregnant symbolized hope and a future. To me everyone connected to her, and if she is the sacrifice, next season would start with everyone broken and hopeless. Maggie is the only one I can think would tie them all together and matter the most.

 

[Zuljin]

Maggie and Eugene are good bets, too. I'm not somsure Maggie would have survived the first hit, though. She was pretty sick looking. If we're to believe it took all the black screen whacks to kill the chosen one, that builds a case for it being Abraham.

 

[Zuljin]

But once we learned Darryl had his own show now, my wife and I were like, hmmmm?

 

[Zuljin]

Then again, killing Maggie frees up the group. They're no longer slowed down by tending to a sick pregnant woman, and won't have a new born slowing them down. Not that Judith has slowed them much recently. They've got some stellar child care options in the ZA.

 

[slym2none]

But once we learned Darryl had his own show now, my wife and I were like, hmmmm?

That's just him riding around on a motorcycle. Not another actual series.

I still say Glenn. It's time a true heavy-hitter gets taken out, and there are only a few of the original crew left.

 

[srice]

I'm betting on Maggie. The group has already shown a strong emotional attachment to Maggie - trying to get her to the Hilltop and Glenn's outburst. Negan has already decided that Rick's crew is now working for him so it wouldn't be too smart to kill off some obvious "earners" like Abraham or Darryl. Glenn is too predictable. Eugene, Sasha, Rosita, Arron(sp?) aren't big enough characters. Rick is out of the question and Coral wouldn't produce compliance from Rick.

 

[CGVT]

This points to Glenn

https://youtu.be/eabJJcLxECM

 

[BUCKNUTS]

That's just him riding around on a motorcycle. Not another actual series.



I still say Glenn. It's time a true heavy-hitter gets taken out, and there are only a few of the original crew left.

I agree. Norma Reedus new "show" is not something that will compete with TWD for his time. I also think it's Glenn that death is a monumental moment in the books it has to happen. That said Daryl's death would be equally devestating to the group and the show.

 

[slym2none]

I am thinking, as much as AMC diverges from the comic, that to go forward from here they will have to keep some things the same. Anybody dying sucks, but Glenn would be a true heart wrench-er.

 

[Kevin79]

I just remember early in the talking dead they mentioned there were hints as to who gets killed off. Of course those hints could be anything, but anyone think about the walkers that were chained up in the road and made to look like some of the group? There was one that looked like Michonne and one that looked like Darryl for sure. Anyone catch any others?

I realize the show is pretty dark and all, but I'm not sure it's dark enough to have a pregnant Maggie bludgend to death. Anyone who gets close to Rick seems to die so It could be Michonne. They also mentioned in the talking dead that the next season will be strongly based off the groups emotional reaction to the loss of the character, so I thing it would have to be someone fairly important.

 

[BigPicture]

Way too much talking. I seriously wanted it to end. My only question is how long they let Negan last before Rick kills him?

I predict the entire next season will be Rick plotting & major characters dying. It's going to get worse before it ever gets better. This cliff-hanger death is only the beginning.

They MUST do something drastic or we're all going to be tuning in elsewhere.

Just like the zombies are now only an afterthought. They've got to ratchet up the hatred before next season can ever be a success. THAT or this series goes the way of Glee.

My $$$ is on Eugene. They did everything but put a target on his forehead leading up to this scene. He had emotion-laden interactions with 2 different characters saying goodbye. His reaction to his new found manhood behind the wheel. Even Negan commenting he was now a tough guy taking the hit to the head.

Then let's add what we now know about Negan, he 's a mega-maniac. He is intelligent, evidenced by the vast army he as accumulated, but he loves to hear himself talk. He wants to keep Rick alive to demean him, compete against him, feed his own ego. He hates Eugene, he hates what Eugene represents, somebody who's smart enough to mess up Negan's plans but who is so weak he gives up Rick's location without being torchered very much at all. Eugene was beat up just a little, he gave up the goods without much fight. Even Negan's comment at the end, "Oh, so you're a tough guy?" hints to his understanding of Eugene's easy betrayal.

I'm even more interested in Carol. Sure she's gonna save the day, but how? How are they going to weave her into the plot? What role do the Knights play? Two bullet wounds are child's play to her............... it will only slow her down a little. :rockin:

 

[drainbamage]

I just remember early in the talking dead they mentioned there were hints as to who gets killed off. Of course those hints could be anything, but anyone think about the walkers that were chained up in the road and made to look like some of the group? There was one that looked like Michonne and one that looked like Darryl for sure. Anyone catch any others?

I realize the show is pretty dark and all, but I'm not sure it's dark enough to have a pregnant Maggie bludgend to death. Anyone who gets close to Rick seems to die so It could be Michonne. They also mentioned in the talking dead that the next season will be strongly based off the groups emotional reaction to the loss of the character, so I thing it would have to be someone fairly important.

I think it's easier right now to rule people out.

Rick and Coral are an obvious nope based on Negan's dialogue ("if anyone screams, cut out the boy's other eye and feed it to his dad").

They probably want someone whose death would cause an emotional impact; Aaron has been pretty scarce the last few episodes, and Sasha and Rosita are mostly treated as side characters.

I'm not sure killing Maggie would be too dark for the writers, but it appears they have been setting up her comic book plot of taking control of Hilltop, and it seems dumb to abandon that now.

I'm still voting Abraham (whenever a character starts becoming hopeful and planning for the future, they're usually toast), followed by Daryl (maximum fan impact) and Glenn (comic book accuracy).

 

[Zuljin]

So, is Maggie just preggers sick, miscarry sick, zombie baby sick or is she going to give birth to a new kind of human?

 

[Natdavis777]

So, is Maggie just preggers sick, miscarry sick, zombie baby sick or is she going to give birth to a new kind of human?

All 4...

Im betting on miscarriage sick... But then again, she would have eluded to that, presumably, to the group with her symptoms of bleeding, etc, before embarking on such a dangerous trip.

Then again, pulseless, dead zombies squirt blood so anything is possible.

 

[chawagi]

I'm thinking eliminate Maggie from the running also. It could be too much speculation, and I may be reading too much into it, but when they interviewed Lauren Cohen for Talking Dead last week, she kinda let slip the fact that her and Enid were going to continue to grow this sisterly relationship they have starting up lately.