The Walking dead

[ArkotRamathorn]

Completely unfounded rumor mill stuff. Apparently Norman Reedus may be getting his own tv show, so another potential would be Daryl getting the axe.

 

[drainbamage]

Completely unfounded rumor mill stuff. Apparently Norman Reedus may be getting his own tv show, so another potential would be Daryl getting the axe.

I've heard that too, but the flip side was that filming was (supposedly) already finished for the 1st few episodes, so they could make both work for the time being.

I know people say that Daryl will never get killed because they'd lose too many viewers. To reference GoT (again), they have no qualms about getting rid of popular characters, and their ratings aren't suffering.

 

[lupulinaddict]

Based on the buildup, I'd put solid odds on Carol or Abraham getting knocked off in the near future. Or, if they wanted to go for maximum shock value a la GoT, Maggie might get it. That would have some dramatic implications for Glenn's character moving forward.

And what was Morgan working on at the end of the episode?

I thought morgan was building a jail. It looked like a metal door frame and cinder locks in the background. Looked to me like he was welding the door.


I can't remember how Daryl lost his bike?

 

[NervousDad]

Same day that they found the oil truck and blew up negans guys. He saw someone taking off with it in the woods. Which again links him back to negan. Not looking good for Daryl.

 

[m_c_zero]

Killing people for food. Our group of heroes has become just as bad as everyone else.

 

[drainbamage]

Killing people for food. Our group of heroes has become just as bad as everyone else.

Seems to be the theme of the season: Has Rick become Shane? Has Alexandria become Woodbury? Do the ends justify the means?

Obviously we want to see Rick's group as having good intentions to look out for their own, but no doubt all those other groups were trying to do the same.

 

[m_c_zero]

Kinda sad seeing Glenn cross over to the dark side but it had to be done sooner or later.

 

[dmtaylor]

Killing people for food. Our group of heroes has become just as bad as everyone else.

Well, for the long term safety of the relatively good people of Alexandria, they also need Negan's people dead as Negan's group are heartless bullies that would certainly take over pretty soon anyway. It's inevitable and Rick recognized this right away, didn't him & haw, just spoke as the necessary voice of reason. Rick might not have much of a conscience of his own anymore with respect to making decisions by himself, he might do some pretty crazy stuff when left to his own devices, but surrounded by others and feeling responsible for them he does still have their support to help keep him straight when he needs straightening, and for the most part he still listens to them and values their opinions, such as calling for democratic votes for significant stuff. Rick also serves as the devil's advocate for them, challenging their wussiness when appropriate to ensure the right stuff gets done for the welfare of all, even when it causes discomfort. Without him they'd all be scattered and gone already, except maybe for Michonne, Daryl, Carol.

I think Glenn might be a goner soon. He's got too big a heart. The world can't handle his heart any longer. If he becomes darker very soon, very quickly, he might be alright. Otherwise, he's gone.

I think Morgan is going to change soon. Something big will happen that turns him back to the dark side, and it could get very ugly.

I've never read the comics, but I think Rick might be the only one who makes it in the very end (Season 10 or whatever). He might die alone of old age, then become one, and the human race is over or whatever. Either that or it turns out like The Postman where 70 years pass and Judith makes a statue of him and they revere him like a god. It's one or the other.

 

[Talgrath]

Well, the comics are still ongoing so we don't really know how things truly "end" for the Walking Dead storyline.

 

[dmtaylor]

Well, the comics are still ongoing so we don't really know how things truly "end" for the Walking Dead storyline.

Oh -- see, I had no idea. So Rick's still alive in the comics, right?! Wait -- don't answer that!

 

[Talgrath]

Killing people for food. Our group of heroes has become just as bad as everyone else.

Well, to be clear, it's not like the Rickites haven't had issues with Negan and his "Saviors" already; some of them were about to kill Sasha and/or Abraham before Daryl went all Call of Duty on their asses. Given that they've already killed and bullied a bunch of basically unarmed farmers it's pretty obvious they're not peaceful and they're not looking to build a kind and happy future arm in arm with their fellow humans either. In a world without jails, how do you take care of what are basically the mob? You hit them hard and fast and take them out. I think a major possibility and potentially a big "oopsie" is that this wasn't actually the Saviors' main base, but rather some intermediary group.

 

[ffaoe]

I agree that it is likely that the compound where the slaughter took place was just where the "muscle" of Negan's group lives.

Another possibility is that one of the women who have captured Carol and Maggie is actually Negan. I don't remember if anyone referred to Negan as a he or she. Additionally, the show writers have changed the gender of characters before. In the comics, the leader of Alexandria was Douglas Monroe. In the show, he was changed to Deanna.

 

[Talgrath]

Hehe. I haven't actually read the comics, though I've thought about picking up some of the compendiums for comparison sake. If you're curious here's the first volume:

Walking Dead Volume 1

 

[firerat]

Glenn gonna eat it.

The pictures he saw with all the bashed in heads, the fact he finally popped his murder cherry.

If he has more than 6 or 7 speaking lines in which he says something deep and profound in the next few episodes, he's toast.

Abraham is coming with him. He's taking a lot of risks.

 

[drainbamage]

I agree that it is likely that the compound where the slaughter took place was just where the "muscle" of Negan's group lives.

Another possibility is that one of the women who have captured Carol and Maggie is actually Negan. I don't remember if anyone referred to Negan as a he or she. Additionally, the show writers have changed the gender of characters before. In the comics, the leader of Alexandria was Douglas Monroe. In the show, he was changed to Deanna.

The writers have already said they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan (unless it's an elaborate red herring).

 

[dmtaylor]

The writers have already said they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan (unless it's an elaborate red herring).

The false hype thought had crossed my mind. Either way it keeps us wondering.

 

[Talgrath]

The writers have already said they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan (unless it's an elaborate red herring).

That would be really clever, and funny as hell because it would make the comic book purists ballistic.

 

[ffaoe]

The writers have already said they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan (unless it's an elaborate red herring).

I had no idea who they cast for the role. IMDB does have him as Negan, appearing episode 16.

 

[drainbamage]

That would be really clever, and funny as hell because it would make the comic book purists ballistic.

Kinda goes hand in hand with my other hypothetical from last night about the writers completely diverging from the comics. It won't happen, but it would be kind of fun to shut down the "well actually, if you read the comics..." bunch.

 

[Talgrath]

Kinda goes hand in hand with my other hypothetical from last night about the writers completely diverging from the comics. It won't happen, but it would be kind of fun to shut down the "well actually, if you read the comics..." bunch.

To be fair to the show, they have diverged pretty majorly from the comics on some character arcs, from what I understand. Basically the major milestones are the same, The CDC, the farm, the prison, Terminus, Alexandria and Hilltop, but a lot of the paths are a little different. One comic book reader buddy actually says that he thinks the TV show is superior to the comics books, although he also points out that since Kirkman is so involved in the show it's sort of like he gets to redo the stuff he didn't like.

 

[Calichusetts]

I think Maggie is going to get "neaganed" instead of Glenn. That will set up an interesting side story of how Glenn would view Rick and his plan to attack.

 

[m_c_zero]

I wonder if they are planning on doing a Walking Dead/Fear the Walking Dead crossover. The timelines have to overlap at some point.

 

[ArkotRamathorn]

I wonder if they are planning on doing a Walking Dead/Fear the Walking Dead crossover. The timelines have to overlap at some point.

I always hate when they do shows within the same universe but act like the other show doesn't exist. They better do a crossover at some point. Since they are not beholden to the comics exactly it would be entertaining.

 

[drainbamage]

I wonder if they are planning on doing a Walking Dead/Fear the Walking Dead crossover. The timelines have to overlap at some point.

I always hate when they do shows within the same universe but act like the other show doesn't exist. They better do a crossover at some point. Since they are not beholden to the comics exactly it would be entertaining.

Supposedly those Flight X (don't remember the #) mini episode things that play on the commercial break are eventually going to lead to a crossover character between FTWD and TWD.

 

[Talgrath]

Timeline wise, unless Fear the Walking Dead has some pretty big time skips coming up, the main series is about 2 years ahead of the spinoff, so I suspect any connections will be tenuous at best, otherwise it would spoil the fates of characters on Fear the Walking Dead. From what I can find on Flight 462, it looks like the connection may just be that the kid and his absent mother were flying out of DC or Atlanta and the plane winds up heading to LA. The producers have said there is no crossover planned at this time.

 

[GrogNerd]

at the end of FTWD S1, Rick would still have been in a coma over in TWD

 

[lupulinaddict]

I had no idea who they cast for the role. IMDB does have him as Negan, appearing episode 16.

Ugh, that means we have to wait to the end of the season. I was happy to see last episode storm the compound so quick instead of leading up to it with a few episodes, or focusing on another group or perspective like they have done before. Kept me guessing at least.

 

[BamaProud]

A few months ago we were discussing the idea of how many people are still alive on the Walking Dead; well someone actually went through and did some calculations to try to figure it out, pretty cool bit of work.

Calculating the Living on Walking Dead

OK, so how many walkers are still around? Surely many have been killed by the living, lots have had to fallen off cliffs, bridges buildings etc...impaled themselves, walked into the ocean/river or just rotted to the point that they are no longer a threat.

Is the ratio 100walkers- 100walkers -1 human? 1,000,000-1?

 

[ArkotRamathorn]

OK, so how many walkers are still around? Surely many have been killed by the living, lots have had to fallen off cliffs, bridges buildings etc...impaled themselves, walked into the ocean/river or just rotted to the point that they are no longer a threat.



Is the ratio 100walkers- 100walkers -1 human? 1,000,000-1?

Well, presumably 7.5 billion possible infections, 400,000 remaining humans.

Unless someone is factory dismantling walkers, more than likely there is still close to 7.5 billion zombies bebopping around. If there were a couple nuclear events in some of the biggest population centers you might cut that by a couple hundred million.

Purely spit ball numbers.

 

[BamaProud]

Killing people for food. Our group of heroes has become just as bad as everyone else.

No different that warring countries in recent centuries, or tribes thousands of years ago. Its about keeping your group safe, fed, and healthy at all cost. They are simply fighting over resources.