The Walking dead

[Revvy]

Was Morgan's repeated mentioning of "clearing" a Scientology reference? Was that something from the first episode about him I missed?

 

[JohnnyO]

Not entirely sure. I took his "clearing" reference as this is his mission in life now. He's set up his walker traps. Now he spends his days clearing the traps and burning the bodies in that lot.

Also, didn't Rick have to fight his way through that same lot in Season 1? Was I imagining that? The lot looked familiar.

 

[bobbrews]

They mentioned on Talking Dead that "clear" most likely had several different meanings:

*Literally clearing the walkers
*Clearing someone to be able to trust them
*Clearing one's own conscience

...etc...etc.

 

[drainbamage]

Good episode. It was nice to have a break from the prison/Woodbury storyline and find out what happened to Morgan. I also enjoyed having an episode where Michonne does something besides scowl the whole time.

Was Morgan's repeated mentioning of "clearing" a Scientology reference? Was that something from the first episode about him I missed?

I think it was just the crazy coming out. With everyone he knows dead, he's established a daily routine that he has to follow to keep himself safe...and probably just to keep his mind occupied.

 

[CGVT]

Overall I liked last night's episode, but I do need to point out the cheesiness...

So...The hitch hiker survived for over a year, but gets killed after seeing Rick and the group? What happened? Did he forget everything that he learned over the past year + to keep him alive?

WTF was up with the diner? Did all of those people die and turn during morning coffee?

 

[drainbamage]

Overall I liked last night's episode, but I do need to point out the cheesiness...

So...The hitch hiker survived for over a year, but gets killed after seeing Rick and the group? What happened? Did he forget everything that he learned over the past year + to keep him alive?

I was thinking the same thing. Running down the road yelling "HEY! HEY!!!" isn't great for subtlety.

 

[usfmikeb]

Just saw an interview online that suggested that Morgan might be back, that they might "check in on him from time to time".

 

[dudius]

Overall I liked last night's episode, but I do need to point out the cheesiness...

So...The hitch hiker survived for over a year, but gets killed after seeing Rick and the group? What happened? Did he forget everything that he learned over the past year + to keep him alive?

WTF was up with the diner? Did all of those people die and turn during morning coffee?

My best guess was the guy walking along the road recently became alone, though its hard to say because he's clearly there for some symbolism because even though the group took his bag, they could have easily found a bag or the same supplies without the guy being written in.

As for running down the road yelling, he could have been either desperate or never was the survivalist of a group but happened to be stranded or the last one to live. Like Morgan said, the weak have inherited everything.

 

[Airborneguy]

So...The hitch hiker survived for over a year, but gets killed after seeing Rick and the group? What happened? Did he forget everything that he learned over the past year + to keep him alive?

WTF was up with the diner? Did all of those people die and turn during morning coffee?

I totally agree on both points.

When they rolled the cages into the diner my wife and I were like, "What the hell? They're all sitting at the tables!" I think that was just subtle comic relief. If I really had to speculate, maybe it was another chance to show that the "zombies" aren't totally without capacity to think. Maybe they still remember what chairs and tables are for and just instinctively sat down.

 

[Tnoodle]

I totally agree on both points.

When they rolled the cages into the diner my wife and I were like, "What the hell? They're all sitting at the tables!" I think that was just subtle comic relief. If I really had to speculate, maybe it was another chance to show that the "zombies" aren't totally without capacity to think. Maybe they still remember what chairs and tables are for and just instinctively sat down.

It has been around 3 years now hasn't it? I think the walkers were just trapped in there and went dormant.

 

[JohnnyO]

I don't think it's been three years. I thought it was a little over a year.

 

[mcwilcr]

Laurie got pregnant at the first location I think and lil ass kicker is still an infant so I'm thinking its only been a year or so.

 

[dudius]

I forgot to mention that I loved when someone asked the Talking Dead "Why didn't Carl get a picture of Shane so Judith could have a picture of her dad, too?" Too funny.

 

[cdubbaya]

The last episode was nice because you actually saw the danger and pain of the survivors. Strange that the entire episode was basically only 4 characters but I was getting tired of the Woodbury characters.

I lose interest in the show when the plot goes away from the premise of survival and rebuilding a life among walkers.

 

[tom_gamer]

i forgot to mention that i loved when someone asked the talking dead "why didn't carl get a picture of shane so judith could have a picture of her dad, too?" too funny.

+1

 

[dudius]

the last episode was nice because you actually saw the danger and pain of the survivors. Strange that the entire episode was basically only 4 characters but i was getting tired of the woodbury characters.

I lose interest in the show when the plot goes away from the premise of survival and rebuilding a life among walkers.

+1

 

[emjay]

My comment about the crawling torso in the first episode, coincidentally the same episode when he originally met Morgan:

Really? That may be what sealed the deal for me to watch it. When Rick comes back and says, "I'm sorry this has happened to you," still is one of my favorite scenes.

Anybody else notice he said the EXACT SAME THING to an unconscious Morgan?

SPOILER ALERT........SPOILER ALERT!

Guess who is back!?

Unfortunately, they kind of spoiled it on the "Previously on..." part. It was obvious the guy was going to be Morgan.

I actually feel like Michone has been making an effort to adapt to the group dynamic in the last few episodes and especially last nights. Her helping Carl get the picture from the diner and telling Rick her personal story about talking to herself and hearing voices.

Not to mention Carl tells Rick that he thinks she's one of them now.

plus, her apparent ninja moves? How the hell did she get on that roof so quickly? And into and out of that walker den so fast?

The blade she carries, is it considered a katana?

The "ninja moves" just felt like poor editing. And yes, it's a katana.

I totally agree on both points.

When they rolled the cages into the diner my wife and I were like, "What the hell? They're all sitting at the tables!" I think that was just subtle comic relief. If I really had to speculate, maybe it was another chance to show that the "zombies" aren't totally without capacity to think. Maybe they still remember what chairs and tables are for and just instinctively sat down.

It has been around 3 years now hasn't it? I think the walkers were just trapped in there and went dormant.

Another flashback for me to the very first episode. Remember Morgan's zombie wife was trying to open the door to HER house. Unfortunately, I think these are just errors in logic rather than actually signifying anything special.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Unfortunately, they kind of spoiled it on the "Previously on..." part. It was obvious the guy was going to be Morgan.

"Previously on" and "Next week on" seriously pisses me off on any show, and I go to great lengths to avoid this info for the weak minded.....especially the "Next week on" Where they pretty much give away the entire next episode. Why the hell would I watch it after you showed me what is going to happen!!?? Do you HONESTLY think you are being vague enough that we can't fill in the blanks of your predictable plot writing!!?? Oh, Grrrr!

 

[dudius]

"Previously on" and "Next week on" seriously pisses me off on any show, and I go to great lengths to avoid this info for the weak minded.....especially the "Next week on" Where they pretty much give away the entire next episode. Why the hell would I watch it after you showed me what is going to happen!!?? Do you HONESTLY think you are being vague enough that we can't fill in the blanks of your predictable plot writing!!?? Oh, Grrrr!

I actually have very poor memory of last week's "Next Week" and this week's "Previously On".

The only thing I remember is the "Previously on..." showing clips of Laurie and Rick seeing her ghost.

 

[Diaperload]

One of the best episodes last night. If I had to rank it, I would rank it #3. Pilot episode #1 and when Sophie exits the barn #2.

The final scene of picking up the backpack was super funny. Especially the way they reiterated it on Talking Dead.

Rick needed Morgan to bring him back from crazytown.

I didn't know Morgan was British. Doesn't bother me....just didn't know. Those traps were an awesome idea that Morgan created. I wonder if Rick's group will borrow any of those ideas for the prison.

 

[dudius]

Those traps were an awesome idea that Morgan created. I wonder if Rick's group will borrow any of those ideas for the prison.

Why didn't I think of that....

 

[FlyDoctor]

I agree with most about the hitchhiker. That was cruel and inhumane.

They are making it hard to even like the characters now, with Rick going nuts. Michone being such a loner, though bad ass. Glen being a little crazy. Andrea being the typical power whore she's always been... Hell even the Governor is willing to take people in and he's a total psycho. I definitely don't like the way the group is going.

Awesome episode though.

Rick has not had good luck with new people - the guys n the bar, the whole Woodbury group - and so many deaths in the group. How can he trust others??

 

[GrogNerd]

One of the best episodes last night. If I had to rank it, I would rank it #3. Pilot episode #1 and when Sophie exits the barn #2.

The final scene of picking up the backpack was super funny. Especially the way they reiterated it on Talking Dead.

Rick needed Morgan to bring him back from crazytown.

I didn't know Morgan was British. Doesn't bother me....just didn't know. Those traps were an awesome idea that Morgan created. I wonder if Rick's group will borrow any of those ideas for the prison.

In memoriam: Sorry, no hitchhiking in the zombie apocalypse

but thanks for the backpack

& they'll put out a "welcome" mat. literally and/or figuratively

 

[drainbamage]

"Previously on" and "Next week on" seriously pisses me off on any show, and I go to great lengths to avoid this info for the weak minded.....especially the "Next week on" Where they pretty much give away the entire next episode. Why the hell would I watch it after you showed me what is going to happen!!?? Do you HONESTLY think you are being vague enough that we can't fill in the blanks of your predictable plot writing!!?? Oh, Grrrr!

Yeah, that bothered me at the mid-season break, when they cut off right before the big Merle-Daryl deathmatch, then show Daryl (and possibly Merle also?) running through the woods in the teaser clip. Well ok, now we know they don't die, so why bother with the big build-up?

The alternative (and almost as bad) that I've seen on other shows is using creative editing to show misleading clips of the next episode:

"Oh my God! What are you doing here?!"
*gunshot*
*close-up of character with horrified expression*
...and then it turns out to be three completely unrelated snippets from throughout the episode. Luckily, I don't recall TWD relying too much on that trickery.

 

[63belair]

This may have already been covered, but it has really been bothering me that they don't clear out the yard at the prison. All they would have to do is stand on the other side of the chain link fence and wait for zombies to come up to the fence and then stab them in the face. They've already done this exact same tactic before. Even if you couldn't get all of the zombies this way, it would certainly make it much easier/safer to then go into the yard and mop up the remainder.

 

[GrogNerd]

This may have already been covered, but it has really been bothering me that they don't clear out the yard at the prison. All they would have to do is stand on the other side of the chain link fence and wait for zombies to come up to the fence and then stab them in the face. They've already done this exact same tactic before. Even if you couldn't get all of the zombies this way, it would certainly make it much easier/safer to then go into the yard and mop up the remainder.

they had done that before the Gov's people drove the zombie bomb into the yard. now they're too worried about snipers to clear them

makes sense keep the ones beyond the wire to deter outsiders, make people think the prison is overrun

 

[dudius]

Yeah, that bothered me at the mid-season break, when they cut off right before the big Merle-Daryl deathmatch, then show Daryl (and possibly Merle also?) running through the woods in the teaser clip. Well ok, now we know they don't die, so why bother with the big build-up?

The alternative (and almost as bad) that I've seen on other shows is using creative editing to show misleading clips of the next episode:

"Oh my God! What are you doing here?!"
*gunshot*
*close-up of character with horrified expression*
...and then it turns out to be three completely unrelated snippets from throughout the episode. Luckily, I don't recall TWD relying too much on that trickery.

Dude I hate that. I have a very specific example of a misleading teaser that has bothered me for around a year because of what it has spawned among fans of a TV show. It grinds my gears so much that I won't get into it, plus there aren't many here who seem to watch that show anyway.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

MANY SPOILERS BELOW! DON'T READ IF YOU HATE SPOILERS

I enjoyed the episode, I thought the bit about Morgan's wife biting Duane was so stupid. I'm fairly certain we'll see Morgan again. Probably after all the prison/woodbury arc. My guess is his clear will involve him destroying everything he created in Rick's home town and clearing his mind so he can move on with himself. So I guess he's going to burn it all down. Or at least everything he created in his psychosis.

Overall I thought it was one of the best episodes they've done in a long time. I think it did what the show does really well, takes a small group and tells a story. I think when you're dealing with 2 different scenes (woodbury and the prison) and having 10+ characters involved in the story it's easy for it to get confusing. With only 4 episodes left in the season it will be interesting to see how things go. I'm guessing they'll hold off on the big conflict between Woodbury and the Prison for season 4. Probably focus on the occasional small skirmish. They've already said season 4 was going to be more about character development than about "run and gun" So my guess is their goal in season 4 is to have more episodes like Clear, which would be fine by me. Some good small story lines.

They have a lot of loose ends that could use tying up. JMO the Governor has to die this season. If they want to show Woodbury post governor in season 4 fine but he has to die. I also seriously hope Tyrese's group is working with Rick's group as the snake in the nest or whatever line Glenn used in that episode.

Also will be interesting what happens with Merle. There has to be some closure there, he can't just turn he has to be sent to the prison with a mission (my guess is kill Michonne or Rick) my hope is that for easy resolution to any problems he dies in battle before he can do whatever it is he's supposed to.

 

[bobbrews]

MANY SPOILERS BELOW! DON'T READ IF YOU HATE SPOILERS

FYI - It's not a spoiler if it's just your opinion about what you think will happen/needs to happen.

 

[GrogNerd]

less spoilers here than in the "previously on"