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I did mean it though, it was good stuff. I only wish I had spotted it! It's details like that which can really show character development. Shame they threw it away to large extent.

Yeah, I didn't remember it either. The first exchange was as Daryl was starting to show some respect toward Glenn. I wonder if it is a precursor to Merle starting to change? Probably not, but you never know.
 
I did mean it though, it was good stuff. I only wish I had spotted it! It's details like that which can really show character development. Shame they threw it away to large extent.

I thought it was a great development of Darryl even before the throwback line was pointed out. Awesome!

I guess the people who catch up via Netflix in a couple years will get it if they survive season 2.
 
The last two episodes definitely raised the bar on closing scene songs! I'm with you Revvy (don't recognize it though).

Personally, I believe that anyone who made it this far is more than likely an asset to the group. I feel like they made a bad choice not picking up the hitchhiker.
 
I agree about the hitchhiker. I think Rick needs to stop isolating his group and start integrating with more survivors. As much as the governor is a psychopath, he proves that you can have a workable community that looks after each other, and attempts to re-build society.
 
I've always said that as much as initially there would be chaos, humans are pack animals. If society broke down for some reason, the majority of survivors would be looking for other people to join with. In my experience, most people look for leaders because they don't want to be in that position or know they can't step up to the challenge.
 
I liked the episode, I've been waiting so long to see Morgan, I thought there was a plot hole. I was disappointed Morgan didn't leave with Rick, but everything in the episode made sense, which is a BFD with this show. They leave the hitch-hiker because they're afraid of the dead weight and then then see he's been ripped apart and stop to get the bag of whatever he was carrying. I was also satisfied to see Carl shoot Morgan, he's definitely becoming a survivor, but was humbled when Michonne had to save his ass in the restaurant.

Edit: I'm watching Talking Dead and they explained that producers wanted Morgan to return last season, but the actor was too busy to do it. It makes me wonder if they intended to bring back Morgan in a different manner or if they intended to have it pan out similarly.
 
Edit: I'm watching Talking Dead and they explained that producers wanted Morgan to return last season, but the actor was too busy to do it. It makes me wonder if they intended to bring back Morgan in a different manner or if they intended to have it pan out similarly.

Yeah, Lennie James is one of the busiest actors no one knows. I've liked him ever since he did Jericho, and learned in real life he's got a heavy British/Trinidadian accent in real life. He seems to turn up in every cop or sci-fi or post holocaust thing there is. He's been doing a British Cop show the last couple years. IMDB

Jamie N Commons - Lead Me Home

Thanks! It was awesome.
 
I really enjoyed this episode and was glad to see Morgan again. I wonder if that is the last we will see of him or if he will get run out of his little one man town and go looking for the prison Rick told him about. My vote goes to that is not the last time we will see him.
 
They should really switch things up and allow Tyrese do his thing with the governor while Morgan replaces Tyrese's role in the Comics. This way, when the Governor inevitably dies, Tyrese's group will be the new opposition.
 
The fact that he's still alive leaves the door open to a return. I do agree with ABG in that it seems like they left it where people would be okay with this being a conclusion. The same goes for the entire episode. They did a good job of creating an episode that was pretty much standalone. It was a good, clean, eventful sidestory. With the past few weeks' episodes where it just seemed like they were bridging the gap from the past to something they haven't written yet, last night was refreshing, and well made.

I liked the piece with the guy with the backpack. Gave a good picture of what the reality of humanity might become in the post apocalypse.
 
I feel like it is. Too much symbolism in this episode. All that talk about "clearing" and never apologizing makes me think his story has been wrapped up.

Depending on what they do about the Governor, Morgan might be back. He's got too much weaponry, I could see a Governor scout team finding the town and fighting him.
 
I agree with most about the hitchhiker. That was cruel and inhumane.

They are making it hard to even like the characters now, with Rick going nuts. Michone being such a loner, though bad ass. Glen being a little crazy. Andrea being the typical power whore she's always been... Hell even the Governor is willing to take people in and he's a total psycho. I definitely don't like the way the group is going.

Awesome episode though.
 
Good episode. I enjoyed it almost as much as the promo where Daryl shoots a zombie and has to clean up the mess for the lady of the house.
 
Roadliner said:
I agree with most about the hitchhiker. That was cruel and inhumane.

They are making it hard to even like the characters now, with Rick going nuts. Michone being such a loner, though bad ass. Glen being a little crazy. Andrea being the typical power whore she's always been... Hell even the Governor is willing to take people in and he's a total psycho. I definitely don't like the way the group is going.

Awesome episode though.

I actually feel like Michone has been making an effort to adapt to the group dynamic in the last few episodes and especially last nights. Her helping Carl get the picture from the diner and telling Rick her personal story about talking to herself and hearing voices.
 
Airborneguy said:
I feel like it is. Too much symbolism in this episode. All that talk about "clearing" and never apologizing makes me think his story has been wrapped up.

You could be right but I kinda hope not. I liked his character before but like him even better now that he's gone crazy and started collecting crates of grenades.
 
I actually feel like Michone has been making an effort to adapt to the group dynamic in the last few episodes and especially last nights. Her helping Carl get the picture from the diner and telling Rick her personal story about talking to herself and hearing voices.

plus, her apparent ninja moves? How the hell did she get on that roof so quickly? And into and out of that walker den so fast?

The blade she carries, is it considered a katana?
 
I agree with most about the hitchhiker. That was cruel and inhumane.

They are making it hard to even like the characters now, with Rick going nuts. Michone being such a loner, though bad ass. Glen being a little crazy. Andrea being the typical power whore she's always been... Hell even the Governor is willing to take people in and he's a total psycho. I definitely don't like the way the group is going.

Awesome episode though.

You have to consider thought processes here, and I think the episode definitely was meant to show different realities of the same situation.

As far as dealing with the hitchhiker, Rick was on a mission and didn't need another person's hand to hold and pull through everything, a liability. The governor takes people in because he views people as a commodity, he's not worried about space or food or water because the town seems to have plenty.
 
I think when Morgan mentioned all the weak people inherited the earth, it kinda described the Governor as well. He did keep his daughter alive. Probably because like Morgan he couldn't kill his family.
 
Revvy said:
I agree about the hitchhiker. I think Rick needs to stop isolating his group and start integrating with more survivors. As much as the governor is a psychopath, he proves that you can have a workable community that looks after each other, and attempts to re-build society.

My fiancée and I were discussing this last night. I am on Ricks side. You never know people's intentions. My focus would be on keeping my family safe. The risk of bringing on someone like the governor doesn't outweigh the chance of having another helping hand.
 

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