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For any old f*ckers. But this scene reminds me of yesterdays episode.

 
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I agree that I would have voted for a change in leadership. I also would have set that farmer straight. I totally understand what they were doing for the first part of the second season, when that little girl came out of the barn it blew my mind, but they could have done it in 3 episodes. I think part of the problem is that big Zombie shots are expensive.
 
Walking Dead .... more like Talking Alive ... hur hur.

Honestly though, it's getting kind of lame that every episode has a nearly identical formula.

First 55 minutes of show = Mostly boring dialogue that doesn't progress the story at all

Last 3 minutes = predictably, 'intense' cliff hangers.
 
The problem is they can only have so many zombies incidents before it gets repetitive. I thought the episode did a decent job of setting up this season and what they may have to deal with defending the farm from both zombies and gangs of scavengers.

but as a whole the series is going down hill pretty fast.
 
The problem is they can only have so many zombies incidents before it gets repetitive. I thought the episode did a decent job of setting up this season and what they may have to deal with defending the farm from both zombies and gangs of scavengers.
but as a whole the series is going down hill pretty fast.

Oh crap, how did I not realize this when they encountered the Philly guys!?! They're gonna end up staying at that damn farm all season.
 
I use Sons of Anarchy as a yardstick for a show that mixes "drama" with, I don't want to say action/adventure, but plot points. There's a ton of the family/relationships dynamics AND the "criminality" of the SOAs including violence. But it balances out. No one episode is ONLY about whatever the gang is involved in or ONLY about Jax's relationship with Tara, or Clay and Gemma, or the Oedipus like sublet between Jax and Clay.

I think they do a great job of balancing it all out, and weaving it all together.
 
Have you guys read the comics? I doubt they will be at the farm all season...There is a pretty awesome story coming up and I think you will all enjoy it....Actually just knowing how they do television. I bet the new storyline wont start until the very end of this season sooo enjoy the farm lol
 
Have you guys read the comics? I doubt they will be at the farm all season...There is a pretty awesome story coming up and I think you will all enjoy it....Actually just knowing how they do television. I bet the new storyline wont start until the very end of this season sooo enjoy the farm lol

I agree ... I'm thinking they end up at the 'you-know-where' for the season finale, but then again I didn't see them killing off Sophia so how knows what they'll do.
 
Was there a new episode last night? I preached at a church for the first time in 5 years and was so drained after that I fell asleep and missed it.

Does anyone have a stream link for last night's episode?
 
NervousDad said:
but as a whole the series is going down hill pretty fast.

Despite the fact that Season 1 was the single best premiere for a tv show in AMC history, the suits decided to fire the main writers and slash the budget for the show.

They tried to do it Mad Men but Matthew Weiner told them to pound sand and they backed down.
 
I retract some of my earlier vitriol after watching last night both episodes back to back. It was pretty good, I'll be sticking around a bit longer.

Also, I want to mention that its CAROL who had me wondering what she looked like naked, NOT Sophia. Sophia is both way too young and way too dead for that sort of thing...
 
I like that they are working in more human vs human violence. The reality of dealing with outsiders from other survivor groups is far more interesting to me than a few action scenes with zombies. I'm still hoping that they are done with focusing whole episodes on the internal drama going on at the farm though. The apparent fracturing of the group could play out interestingly, but I'm still worried about the show after the most recent past 6 or 7 episodes.
 
I dunno gang, I think we've become so desperate for something to actually happen in this show that some folks get all "chubbed up" for the few crumbs that gets thrown our way. Sure the first half or so was exciting, but i glazed over at the half way point when we got to the whole "Who's baby is it/Now that I'm in love with you I froze during the shootout" stuff....More snooze fest.

I guess the whole who will emerge as the leader Rick/Shane dichotomy looks like it's going to be interesting, and the thread of outside human involvement like ABG mentioned, and the idea of who's going to be more evil shane or the zombies.

But still to me this episode was only half interesting.

For me it's like the tension dissipates into boredom the minute the soap opera kicks in.
 
Revvy said:
For me it's like the tension dissipates into boredom the minute the soap opera kicks in.

In the show's defense, the comic book is much more about the relationship between the living than their interaction with the dead. It felt like more of a story about people set in a post-apocalyptic zombie world than a zombie story with some people in it.

That being said, the writing is not up to snuff this season and some of the acting (Shane, Daryl, and occasionally Lorie) hasn't been great. Also, Rick's character in the show seems a little more schizophrenic than in the comics. We'll see, but this season seems much more disjointed than the first. It's very much a "hey look here is some action and some gore. Ok that is done, time for relationships" whereas that seemed to happen at the same time in the first season.
 
I... this season seems much more disjointed than the first. It's very much a "hey look here is some action and some gore. Ok that is done, time for relationships" whereas that seemed to happen at the same time in the first season.

I think you summed it up aptly, what I don't like about this season...

Plus it just occurred to me, I just really don't like any of the characters all that much. You usually want characters you relate to or at least sympathize with. But most of these guys I could really care less if they got bit. In fact half the time I want to hold the door open for the zombies to come in and get them.

In fact the only two I "like" are Dale and Daryl, especially Daryl, especially since he's sort of shedding the psycho/racist nature that so tied into his brother. To me he's the "sane" one, the one that I would trust most to lead the group. He's definitely more level headed that Rick is, and more apt to keep folks alive, because he doesn't seem to let any of the "drama" in his life interfere with the need to survive and protect.

And Dale is just sort of the even keel "grampa" of the group. Rock steady, good at putting things into perspective. Not afraid to speak his mind. An all around good joe.
 
The writing for Rick's character is a complete mess. He doesn't lead at all. I mean this to the point that it is not even believeable that he is so much as a figurehead leader for the group. Every decision he makes is made after constant pressure from someone else. I can 100% state that I would have left the group a long time ago.

Look at Darryl: it is just not remotely believeable that he is still with them. His personality doesn't fit with the group. It's been shown that he doesn't need the group. The only possible reason for him staying has been eliminated (the search for Sophia). Other members of the group essentially killed his brother. The list goes on, and and that's just one character!

When I say I need to see more action, its mainly because the story is lacking in so many other ways. At least with a good action flick/show, the action makes up for the lack of story or shoddy writing. For me, Walking Dead is definitely suffering from the same lack of direction and writing as any of the worst 80's action films.
 
And Dale is just sort of the even keel "grampa" of the group. Rock steady, good at putting things into perspective. Not afraid to speak his mind. An all around good joe.

I like Dale too, but he just isn't used enough. His character exists at this point just to make random observations about what is going on with the internal drama. Take away that aspect, and Dale's character exists for nothing! I wish he was used more often, I mean jeez, he's always pulling guard duty, let him shoot just one zombie or something!
 
Is it just me or is Carol the only female character who isnt completely insufferable, and she's just ok? It feels as if there is an underlying message of "and in the zombie apocolypse women would be a complete pain in the hooha.."
 
Airborneguy said:
The writing for Rick's character is a complete mess.

This is what is so frustrating to me. I totally understand that TV shows aren't comic books and that there are inherent differences to the mediums, but the differences are much less between comics and TV Shows. Especially this one...the characters were already written! Don't change them!
 
I'd like to add, in regards to Rick. Look at this last episode when the friends show up as they are leaving the bar. This type of situation should be his specialty, he's a damn trained cop! They ended up hiding behind the wall for how long before he finally blurted out, quite meekly, "Your friends drew on us! Please, we all have gone through stuff." blah blah. Very weak, IMO. He went from having the element of surprise to being in an extremely compromised tactical situation in mere seconds just because he couldn't make a good, snap decision under pressure. The first move in that scene was made by the Chinese kid, not the "leader". This is a character who just quick-drawed like John Wayne and killed two people. It just doesn't fit. It's all over the place.
 
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