The San Diego area thread

[Sebowski1]

2 of the most expensive breweries I've ever been to are Cascade and Hair of the Dog. Anyone think Portland would put up with their prices?

 

[Phischy1]

Out of curiosity, how do your friends feel about Great Notion and the pricing there?

Beats me. No idea who Great Notion is.

 

[Phischy1]

2 of the most expensive breweries I've ever been to are Cascade and Hair of the Dog. Anyone think Portland would put up with their prices?

They're home grown and one is an institution. Like Lost Abbey.

I'd say it's different but time will tell. The beer culture there is not the same as So Cal.

 

[riko1]

I've probably said this before, but when I was at Great Notion 16 months ago, the bartender mentioned a special bottle was release coming up. I asked him if they were going to sell through BPT or something and he said people would just come when they open. I said that if an SD brewery did that, it would be a **** show. He said that most of the people who line up at their beer releases are from SD.

 

[Xul1]

Beats me. No idea who Great Notion is.

So yeah, there's some context in your friends' reaction to Modern Times. They're not in the same class as an old-school Portland brewery who's slinging pints of pale ale, IPA, and oatmeal stout. It's not their business model and it makes as much sense to compare them to McMenamins up there as it does to compare them with Gordon Biersch down here. Great Notion is at the forefront of establishing the new wave of craft beer geekery in Portland - for better or worse - and Modern Times inhabits a closer position in the ecosystem to them than it does to most other breweries. If you want to compare pricing and such, they'd be a better measuring stick than what's going on at some of the old school places...not a defense ($7/5oz is objectively expensive, whether or not I feel the beers are worth it is simply my own preference), it just makes more sense contextually.

 

[Phischy1]

So yeah, there's some context in your friends' reaction to Modern Times. They're not in the same class as an old-school Portland brewery who's slinging pints of pale ale, IPA, and oatmeal stout. It's not their business model and it makes as much sense to compare them to McMenamins up there as it does to compare them with Gordon Biersch down here. Great Notion is at the forefront of establishing the new wave of craft beer geekery in Portland - for better or worse - and Modern Times inhabits a closer position in the ecosystem to them than it does to most other breweries. If you want to compare pricing and such, they'd be a better measuring stick than what's going on at some of the old school places...not a defense ($7/5oz is objectively expensive, whether or not I feel the beers are worth it is simply my own preference), it just makes more sense contextually.

I'm sure both MT and Great Notion are targeting hipster shitlords in their 20's. Which is not the demographic for myself and friends.

I'm just happy to have gone through most of my hardcore beer geek phase when things were reasonably priced. $7/5oz better deliver a happy ending.

I do wonder what will happen during the next deep recession for the "next wave" of breweries who charge a premium. Is it because their lease and cost of business is so high? Or are they charging a premium based on hype. Either way, no way to tell till it happens.

 

[DougOLis]

They aren't charging $7 for 5oz of an IPA. It was for BBA Monster's Park and Wizard Blend. That pricing for Wizard Blend is actually cheaper per oz than it was at the bottle price. Monster's Park is a little higher but not outrageously so.

 

[DougOLis]

I missed that Modem Tones Vanilla was at that $7 mark too but that's pretty much in line with the bottle price.

 

[Phischy1]

The whole point of the article was MT prices are above industry standards in PDX. End Stop.

After the new shine wears off it will be interesting to see how they fair. You can't necessarily compare the two markets as they have different cultures. Most likely they'll probably do fine.

 

[Xul1]

I'm sure both MT and Great Notion are targeting hipster shitlords in their 20's. Which is not the demographic for myself and friends.

They also managed to capture mid-30s degenerates with their pitch, I guess their cadre of marketing experts deserves extra credit. I tried so hard to resist, but the lifestyle their brands represent was simply too compelling...thankfully, I've ended up enjoying the beer anyway, so it all worked out.

 

[Sebowski1]

I'm sure both MT and Great Notion are targeting hipster shitlords in their 20's. Which is not the demographic for myself and friends.

I'm just happy to have gone through most of my hardcore beer geek phase when things were reasonably priced. $7/5oz better deliver a happy ending.

I do wonder what will happen during the next deep recession for the "next wave" of breweries who charge a premium. Is it because their lease and cost of business is so high? Or are they charging a premium based on hype. Either way, no way to tell till it happens.

Your lawn: should we get off of it?

 

[Sebowski1]

The whole point of the article was MT prices are above industry standards in PDX. End Stop.

After the new shine wears off it will be interesting to see how they fair. You can't necessarily compare the two markets as they have different cultures. Most likely they'll probably do fine.

Than the point was terrible. Cascade and Hair of the Dog do just fine there.

 

[drbenzo1]

I often complain about price. Then buy $30 stouts. BUT a lot of people act like they are economic experts and can predict beer markets... whatever the **** MT is doing, people like it. I like it. I didn’t even read the last two pages but can tell people are market experts on beer pricing and have already predicted MTPDX’s fate

 

[Tyrsis]

It's only money.

 

[drbenzo1]

It's only money.

You’re only money!

 

[rcubed1]

 

[nanobrew1]

I really enjoy MT beers, probably my favorite all around brewery (beer wise) in SD. I have always felt they have high end product with high end pricing. I would like to buy more but choose not to due to the price, instead I buy more of PP. I would love to buy Blanton's more often, but choose to buy Woodford instead, #talkbourbon. Between the pricing and not overall enjoying the atmosphere and setup of strippertorium I tend to just get MT beer sparingly and to go. But I am also a cheap ass.

 

[drbenzo1]

I really enjoy MT beers, probably my favorite all around brewery (beer wise) in SD. I have always felt they have high end product with high end pricing. I would like to buy more but choose not to due to the price, instead I buy more of PP. I would love to buy Blanton's more often, but choose to buy Woodford instead, #talkbourbon. Between the pricing and not overall enjoying the atmosphere and setup of strippertorium I tend to just get MT beer sparingly and to go. But I am also a cheap ass.

I bought guys some Dickle Rye over the weekend and am very happy for the $20 price tag. (I just now realized an unintended joke...)

 

[drbenzo1]

Speaking of PP!!

 

[Phischy1]

Than the point was terrible. Cascade and Hair of the Dog do just fine there.

Sure. I really don't care that much, I was commenting on the article. They may do just fine.

I really enjoy MT beers, probably my favorite all around brewery (beer wise) in SD. I have always felt they have high end product with high end pricing. I would like to buy more but choose not to due to the price, instead I buy more of PP. I would love to buy Blanton's more often, but choose to buy Woodford instead, #talkbourbon. Between the pricing and not overall enjoying the atmosphere and setup of strippertorium I tend to just get MT beer sparingly and to go. But I am also a cheap ass.

What, the creepy as **** MJ mural doesn't do it for you?

 

[smithj21541]

I really enjoy MT beers, probably my favorite all around brewery (beer wise) in SD. I have always felt they have high end product with high end pricing. I would like to buy more but choose not to due to the price, instead I buy more of PP. I would love to buy Blanton's more often, but choose to buy Woodford instead, #talkbourbon. Between the pricing and not overall enjoying the atmosphere and setup of strippertorium I tend to just get MT beer sparingly and to go. But I am also a cheap ass.

Well said!
#metoo

Speaking of PP!!

Why ask MT for a non hazy dipa when we can get Kook any time and they pump out cans like this.

 

[sdreaper]

They also managed to capture mid-30s degenerates with their pitch,

...hello =)

 

[drbenzo1]

Well said!
#metoo

Why ask MT for a non hazy dipa when we can get Kook any time and they pump out cans like this.

Livin that PP life fo sho

 

[Phischy1]

Your lawn: should we get off of it?

 

[chemman141]

Speaking of PP!!

That sounds DELICIOUS

 

[drbenzo1]

That sounds DELICIOUS

Livin that PP life fo sho

 

[drbenzo1]

Unmmm... Roustabout is hnnnnnnnnng
At Societe if any one is near

 

[drbenzo1]

Full pour or Roust and Pupil makes me happy man

 

[arren]

Livin that PP life fo sho

Now that BIL has jumped the shark, I'm totally a member of #PPisLife

Unmmm... Roustabout is hnnnnnnnnng
At Societe if any one is near

Got a growler a couple days ago and a taster with it. Best batch I've had in years, and way more drinkable than I remember. It reminded me of the best batches of OG Kern River Citra.


Been on the border of sickness for a week, and Im still buying beer fml

 

[drbenzo1]

Now that BIL has jumped the shark, I'm totally a member of #PPisLife


Got a growler a couple days ago and a taster with it. Best batch I've had in years, and way more drinkable than I remember. It reminded me of the best batches of OG Kern River Citra.


Been on the border of sickness for a week, and Im still buying beer fml

BIL? Brother-In-Law?

Heading to a 40th in Santee to consume this 2L of Roustabout and it’s