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Matt is a great brewer so I'm sure he'll turn it somewhere. I'm guessing with the landlord issues that they'll have to auction off the equipment instead of someone taking over their spot.
Hope your checkbook is ready. :D
 
Weekend beer thoughts. Brother came out for a quick weekend visit. Wife booked us a beer tour Fri. Driver was friendly and pretty knowledgeable about the top level beer scene here. We hit in order; Mikkeller, Gravity Heights, Green Flash. Gravity was very surprising they had solid beer, great food and and a pretty killer space in general. I think Mikkeller is pretty underrated, I know they get a little pricey but outside of the experimental hop IPA I've enjoyed everything I've tried from them. I even took home a can of shake your stack which was a collab with Great Notion which was exceptional. Though at $8/ can for a non-BA Stout not something I would buy a lot of. Green Flash was a stop we did.

KS Carlsbad for dinner and Mosaic is still my favorite SD beer! Following day he and I hit PP Bressi for lunch, then Lost Abbey, Belching beaver 980. Bressi had a pretty full board but nothing really stood out this visit. Lost Abbey was EMPTY at 1pm Saturday, the whole time we were there maybe 10 other people came through. But beer was phenomenal. Beaver was much busier but not packed by any means. American made denim was a good IPA!

Hit Alesmith before going to Padres game that night. They had a really solid board and tasting great, also a pretty well packed tasting room. Padres game was a fun time. Beer options are nuts but I went with my usual chasing Citra. IMO food options are most improved over the last couple of seasons.

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We continue to be extremely lucky here but there is definitely a consolidation on the horizon and I remain hopeful that my friends and preferred breweries are positioned to sustain themselves through it.
 
Thoughts from my recent road trip. Lots of beers/breweries have spun off because of San Diego around the country. This is cool and all, but it's time for San Diego to take a page out of their books. This is probably indicative of the general population and our beer scene is a byproduct.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Those plans also might have been when Travis left.

I guess time will tell.

I can see myself making decently frequent trip to Prescott (and Flagstaff). Pretty reachable spots for a quick weekend. Weather is usually perfect during summers. Also perfect first landing spot before ABQ, Tulsa, CO, and never wanting to come back.
 
I can see myself making decently frequent trip to Prescott (and Flagstaff). Pretty reachable spots for a quick weekend. Weather is usually perfect during summers. Also perfect first landing spot before ABQ, Tulsa, CO, and never wanting to come back.


It's kinda why I won't go to Oregon. Based on pictures, friends' experiences, and my desire to become a complete hermit...if I went up that way, I likely would never come back. Get myself lost in the woods but not lost so much that I can't make it out to get some beer.
 
It's kinda why I won't go to Oregon. Based on pictures, friends' experiences, and my desire to become a complete hermit...if I went up that way, I likely would never come back. Get myself lost in the woods but not lost so much that I can't make it out to get some beer.
Oregon and Colorado are the only two states I would even consider moving to.
 
It's kinda why I won't go to Oregon. Based on pictures, friends' experiences, and my desire to become a complete hermit...if I went up that way, I likely would never come back. Get myself lost in the woods but not lost so much that I can't make it out to get some beer.

Once you leave the urban jungles most of the country is very easy to go full hermit mode if you really wanted to.

You know aside from having a beer or two in populated areas, and actual bike race events...most of my existence is pretty much solo. Maybe we is more same than different.

We're full

As usual, the highlights of my trips to CO are the Fort Collins area and Glenwood Springs. Soapstone and Red Mountain man. What the hell. Kinda fun parking in CO for a trail ride but part of it clips into Wyoming. Thanks for letting me visit. You might need to make room for me one of these days :)

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Sorry this should be in a different thread.
 
Maybe we is more same than different.

I'm taller and have a shittier "beard". You are also a lot more fit, although I am trying to rectify that for myself. Oh, and you also like to be outside. Not me. That **** is scary. There are ppl and the daystar out there trying to slowly murder me with cancer rays
 
Thoughts from my recent road trip. Lots of beers/breweries have spun off because of San Diego around the country. This is cool and all, but it's time for San Diego to take a page out of their books. This is probably indicative of the general population and our beer scene is a byproduct.
I spent a beautiful sunny afternoon at Little Beast in PDX this Saturday. We need that setup in this town.
 
I spent a beautiful sunny afternoon at Little Beast in PDX this Saturday. We need that setup in this town.

We have the means. We lack the demographics. We bitch about the pettiest of things. Julian Cider Works is our closest parallel but we don’t give a **** (I admittedly haven’t visited but have wanted to forever). If a brewery literally as good as Hill Farmstead opened up out in Julian or somewhere further east, SoCal wouldn’t give a **** and be blind to know what they had. Don’t even get mad at this take. Y’all gave up on Alpine and they still make fire.
 
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We have the means. We lack the demographics. We bitch about the pettiest of things. Julian Cider Works is our closest parallel but we don’t give a **** (I admittedly haven’t visited but have wanted to forever). If a brewery literally as good as Hill Farmstead opened up out in Julian or somewhere further east, SoCal wouldn’t give a **** and be blind to know what they had. Don’t even get mad at this take. Y’all gave up on Alpine and they still make fire.
Alpine gave up on us first.

It's hard to take that back.
 
It's kinda why I won't go to Oregon. Based on pictures, friends' experiences, and my desire to become a complete hermit...if I went up that way, I likely would never come back. Get myself lost in the woods but not lost so much that I can't make it out to get some beer.
Don't worry, we can proxy pick up your beers for you and just leave them in a bear-proof box along the edge of the forest.
 
We have the means. We lack the demographics. We bitch about the pettiest of things. Julian Cider Works is our closest parallel but we don’t give a **** (I admittedly haven’t visited but have wanted to forever). If a brewery literally as good as Hill Farmstead opened up out in Julian or somewhere further east, SoCal wouldn’t give a **** and be blind to know what they had. Don’t even get mad at this take. Y’all gave up on Alpine and they still make fire.
wow yeah, this ********. We went up to Alpine all the damn time. Then they sold out and their beer was ****, so we stopped going. It has become much better again, but the food at the pub isnt the same either. So dont give me that ****.
 
wow yeah, this ********. We went up to Alpine all the damn time. Then they sold out and their beer was ****, so we stopped going. It has become much better again, but the food at the pub isnt the same either. So dont give me that ****.
The beers aren't that good either - not sure if everyone else caught up, they slipped back, or both. Was up there at the beginning of the year with my buddy that really, really wanted to go, and we left extremely underwhelmed.
 
The beers aren't that good either - not sure if everyone else caught up, they slipped back, or both. Was up there at the beginning of the year with my buddy that really, really wanted to go, and we left extremely underwhelmed.
They're making good stuff, but it's still not the same. It's not the same. It's different, but good.

I'm happy to drive out somewhere if it's good. I drove out to Flynn ******' Springs last week to go check out the new Grand Ole BBQ. It was awesome, and I can't wait to go again.

I drove out to Tom's thing in Julian once, it was straight up garbage - so no. I won't drive all the way back there to see if they got any good. And no one is driving out there for ******' cider.
 
They killed it with our collab.

As a beer fan, I gave up on Alpine because I didn’t like that the beer tasted different after they sold to Green Flash. I didn’t stick with them. I talked **** about them and turned my back on the brand. I stupidly got into brewing and now feel a deep sense of regret for having that take. It takes a lot of work to brew beer and build a brand. Alpine had such a good following before selling to GF. After collabing with Shawn, I see how I ****** up. His team is making great beer despite all the challenges they are still dealing with caused by Green Flash filing for bankruptcy.
 
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Someone to someone else last year and they aren't wrong: "If you hit San Diego check out council for really cool sours and solid beers across styles, hit Benchmark for perfect to-style beers, and crush some historic clean lagers that inspired all the other lagers in San Diego at Gordon Biersch.
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