The San Diego area thread

[rcubed1]

this is why I got Fleet season tickets

Looks like you missed a good game on Saturday. The fireworks were booming in the 'hood.

 

[pugsandsuds]

Went to small bar tonight (alas, no wtfish Wednesday yet) for the first time since remodel/ownership changed. Food was still very enjoyable and priced at a point that still seems almost a little cheap for the neighborhood and quality, albeit not the absolute bargain it used to be (probs why equity injection was needed). No change to beer prices. Not too crowded, less so than prior random weekdays but nothing shocking about that. Saw one familiar face behind the bar and two new ones. All things considered, pleasant experience, will be back albeit not as frequently unless food options increase/diversify. Interresting to be there and have it geometrically look so similar to how it used to but with such different color/decoration. They also need to turn up the music when It’s not crowded, eerily quiet for about an hour.

 

[rcubed1]

Went to small bar tonight (alas, no wtfish Wednesday yet) for the first time since remodel/ownership changed. Food was still very enjoyable and priced at a point that still seems almost a little cheap for the neighborhood and quality, albeit not the absolute bargain it used to be (probs why equity injection was needed). No change to beer prices. Not too crowded, less so than prior random weekdays but nothing shocking about that. Saw one familiar face behind the bar and two new ones. All things considered, pleasant experience, will be back albeit not as frequently unless food options increase/diversify. Interresting to be there and have it geometrically look so similar to how it used to but with such different color/decoration. They also need to turn up the music when It’s not crowded, eerily quiet for about an hour.

Quieter music is refreshing for me since my hearing is horrible when having a conversation and the music is too loud.

 

[Sebowski1]

Quieter music is refreshing for me since my hearing is horrible when having a conversation and the music is too loud.

WHAT?

 

[rcubed1]

WHAT?

Huh? I can't hear you. Too many concerts and loud music. My hearing is kinda shot.

 

[pugsandsuds]

Quieter music is refreshing for me since my hearing is horrible when having a conversation and the music is too loud.

I generally agree and bitch frequently about the difficulty of conversation at places like toronado or tiger, but it was like a library in there. At one point I was pretty sure I got a dirty look for being too loud (granted, might’ve been deserved).

 

[chemman141]

Can’t remeber who asked about this but it’s delicious right now. The port barrel has subdued into a deliciously balanced beer. Still has some coffee left but not a lot. Slight oxidation has set in but compliments the barrel flavors. At or even slightly past it’s prime. I’d trade for it if you can find a reasonable non shitlord.

 

[Xul1]

Still has some coffee left but not a lot. Slight oxidation has set in but compliments the barrel flavors. At or even slightly past it’s prime.

Everyone's palate is different and I'm not questioning whether it's enjoyable, but I don't understand how you can say not a lot of coffee is left and slight oxidation has set in, and then entertain the idea that it might be at its peak. That sounds like a textbook example of a beer that's past its peak but aging gracefully (assuming you enjoy aged BA stouts), rather than falling off a cliff.

 

[DougOLis]

Went to small bar tonight (alas, no wtfish Wednesday yet) for the first time since remodel/ownership changed. Food was still very enjoyable and priced at a point that still seems almost a little cheap for the neighborhood and quality, albeit not the absolute bargain it used to be (probs why equity injection was needed). No change to beer prices. Not too crowded, less so than prior random weekdays but nothing shocking about that. Saw one familiar face behind the bar and two new ones. All things considered, pleasant experience, will be back albeit not as frequently unless food options increase/diversify. Interresting to be there and have it geometrically look so similar to how it used to but with such different color/decoration. They also need to turn up the music when It’s not crowded, eerily quiet for about an hour.

Does it still just have 1 bathroom though?

 

[jan63]

Does it still just have 1 bathroom though?

Yeah

 

[reidjoshua1]

Thanks for the single barrel bottle hookup stawn

 

[stawn]

Thanks for the single barrel bottle hookup stawn

Great to meet you Josh! Thanks for the cans!

 

[riko1]

Does this mean AleSmith will go out of business?

 

[Tyrsis]

psh, I drink Resident or Pizza Port when I'm at Petco anyway, idgaf

 

[kingg]

Does this mean AleSmith will go out of business?

The "Official Craft Beer of the San Diego Padres."

You'd think the Padres would prefer to support a true, locally-owned brewery in San Diego instead...

 

[Tyrsis]

The "Official Craft Beer of the San Diego Padres."

You'd think the Padres would prefer to support a true, locally-owned brewery in San Diego instead...

given the amount of Estrella Jalisco they sell in that stadium, something tells me they don't give a ****...

 

[rcubed1]

Gotta pay for Manny somehow.

 

[rcubed1]

Thinning of the heard continues: https://westcoastersd.com/2019/03/18/align-brewing-for-sale/

I only went when it was Pacific and the beers were good. Everything was cleanly made.

 

[Tyrsis]

Thinning of the heard continues: https://westcoastersd.com/2019/03/18/align-brewing-for-sale/

I only went when it was Pacific and the beers were good. Everything was cleanly made.

who

 

[jwacky]

https://societebrewing.com/2019/03/20/letter-extended-family-members/#more

The notable part:

As of March 22, 2019, Travis will step down as Societe’s brewmaster. Running a business is difficult, particularly in an industry where there has been as much flux as craft brewing. A company must remain nimble, and that means making lots of decisions and adjustments; the difficult kind that can mean so much in the long run. Doug’s and Travis’ visions for what they wanted the company to be and become have become increasingly divergent over the years. They no longer have the same vision, and that was the key factor necessitating this difficult but mutual decision.

 

[Tyrsis]

https://societebrewing.com/2019/03/20/letter-extended-family-members/#more

The notable part:

As of March 22, 2019, Travis will step down as Societe’s brewmaster. Running a business is difficult, particularly in an industry where there has been as much flux as craft brewing. A company must remain nimble, and that means making lots of decisions and adjustments; the difficult kind that can mean so much in the long run. Doug’s and Travis’ visions for what they wanted the company to be and become have become increasingly divergent over the years. They no longer have the same vision, and that was the key factor necessitating this difficult but mutual decision.

Was it Travis or Doug that was anti-BA stout? Hoping it was Travis...

Either way, kind of a bummer. Easily one of the best SD breweries, on the down low

 

[jwacky]

Was it Travis or Doug that was anti-BA stout?

I don't know, but this was my exact thought as I was reading their post...

 

[rcubed1]

Was it Travis or Doug that was anti-BA stout? Hoping it was Travis...

Either way, kind of a bummer. Easily one of the best SD breweries, on the down low

I believe both but there are people here that know more than I do. Sad to hear this news.

 

[rcubed1]

Sounds like Doug wants to convert to a brewpub model and probably expand their feral program to include a greater variety of options (I'm guessing more non-traditional Belgian fruits and spices).

 

[riko1]

Was it Travis or Doug that was anti-BA stout?

When Doug gave me and stawn a tour back when they were building the place, Doug said he would never barrel-age a stout. But that was a long time ago and sometimes people change their minds...

 

[Tyrsis]

When Doug gave me and stawn a tour back when they were building the place, Doug said he would never barrel-age a stout. But that was a long time ago and sometimes people change their minds...

"I'll never barrel age a stout! I hate making money. Instead, I'll take 3 years to release my first sour, and it will be average as ****. AM BIZNISS MAN."

 

[arren]

Sounds like Doug wants to convert to a brewpub model and probably expand their feral program to include a greater variety of options (I'm guessing more non-traditional Belgian fruits and spices).

Is there even money in a wild program anymore? It seems like the sour trend has pretty much come and gone, and in terms of demand, there really isn't much for sour beers - much less wild Belgians with unconventional adjuncts.

 

[chemman141]

Is there even money in a wild program anymore? It seems like the sour trend has pretty much come and gone, and in terms of demand, there really isn't much for sour beers - much less wild Belgians with unconventional adjuncts.

IDK, ask Lost Abbey that is selling $45 750's of wild beer next week that will likely instantly sell out.

 

[rcubed1]

Is there even money in a wild program anymore? It seems like the sour trend has pretty much come and gone, and in terms of demand, there really isn't much for sour beers - much less wild Belgians with unconventional adjuncts.

My best guess is yes, there is money to be made there. There just isn't that instant sell out, wait in line demand anymore. I bet it moves okay on selves.

It's rather amazing what IPA has done to beer trends and sales. Maybe when hops become so expensive that IPAs are as expensive as wild ales, we'll see a shift back to a larger variety of styles.

 

[arren]

My best guess is yes, there is money to be made there. There just isn't that instant sell out, wait in line demand anymore. I bet it moves okay on selves.

It's rather amazing what IPA has done to beer trends and sales. Maybe when hops become so expensive that IPAs are as expensive as wild ales, we'll see a shift back to a larger variety of styles.

I'm sure it does well in the long-term, but breweries have to be feeling the initial investment hard - especially now, when it seems like there's a downturn in craft beer.