Syracuse, ny - round 7 group grain buy

[jeffb418]

Gulp... I got the CEO and head brewer of the "4th largest US craft brewery" coming over to my place tonight for a tasting of my beer! Guess I'll really find out if my stuff is any good...

//Freaking out//

Fred Matt?

 

[CidahMastah]

send them over to my place next!

 

[jeffb418]

Went through and fixed the sheet. Looks like copyright accidentally deleted a bunch of labels. But its all fixed now.

 

[CidahMastah]

Went through and fixed the sheet. Looks like copyright accidentally deleted a bunch of labels. But its all fixed now.

darn it copyright are you sabotaging the buy! haha

I see we keep ticking along and adding bags. At 49!

 

[CidahMastah]

Just another reason why ebrewing rocks:

http://www.douglasbaldwin.com/sous-vide.html#Safety

Sous vide anyone? I plan on possibly taking a trial run on with this for this weekend.

... yes, it just just got better!

 

[copyright1997]

Went through and fixed the sheet. Looks like copyright accidentally deleted a bunch of labels. But its all fixed now.

Sorry about that. Something weird was happening with the sheet and I saw quantities disappear...tried to fix them...didn't see that I was also deleting labels.

Hard to believe I had a career doing software development with multiple patents and teach college level programming classes (including Excel).

 

[drocu]

Just another reason why ebrewing rocks:

http://www.douglasbaldwin.com/sous-vide.html#Safety

Sous vide anyone? I plan on possibly taking a trial run on with this for this weekend.

... yes, it just just got better!

I just ordered another ebay aquarium temperature controller to try a hand at sous vide. I plan on using a slow cooker to see how that goes. Plus, it never hurts to have another temperature controller around.

 

[copyright1997]

Started on my 2nd bag of 2-row from the last buy today, so it's being used pretty quickly. (I actually bought a few 50# sacks from the LHBS within the last week as they were offering them for $40/sack.) Also used some of the MO...

 

[gcdowd]

Hopefully got some buddies in for some hops and dme. I'm pushing hard.

 

[Mparsons327]

Ok so the place i ordered my foodsaver from emailed saying its out of stock. Does anyone on here have any recommendations on a particular model, vendor that sells them, etc.
Thanks in advance.

 

[brian4508]

Started on my 2nd bag of 2-row from the last buy today, so it's being used pretty quickly. (I actually bought a few 50# sacks from the LHBS within the last week as they were offering them for $40/sack.) Also used some of the MO...

Where is this LHBS out in Albany? I go out that way twice a month for work and would love to check this place out!

 

[copyright1997]

Where is this LHBS out in Albany? I go out that way twice a month for work and would love to check this place out!

https://www.beerbrew.com/

They are on Route 4, about 1/4-1/2 mile north of where Rt 4 and Rt 43 intersect.

470 North Greenbush Road Rensselaer, NY 12144
(518) 283-7094

They seem to do the sacks of grain deal a couple times per year (last one before this was in Sept/Oct). You have to order in advance and pick up in the store within a week or so after it comes in.

 

[copyright1997]

Hi all -
A couple/few group buys ago, we did a split of a cara-pils substitute. It might have been BZ-CRPLS, but I'm not positive. Anyway, I just realized when preparing for yesterdays brew, that I am almost out of it!

Looking at the Champlain doc, I see:
BZ-CRPLS Caramel Malt Pils: $0.77/#, "Best Caramel Malt Pils will aid in foam development and head retention as well as add extra body to your beer. This malt is best used in lager beers of all types including Pilsner, Light Lager and Bock beers."

BZ-CHIT NEW! Chit Malt NEW!: $0.73/#, "Best Chit Malt is used to reinforce and to increase foam stability. Similar to dextrin malt."

I'm assuming (can someone confirm) that we ordered BZ-CRPLS? Anyone have a reason not to try the BZ-CHIT?

I really don't want/need a full sack of it (then again I have been using it), but there are a couple of other brewers from the Albany area who might be interested in splitting it with me.

 

[CidahMastah]

Hey copyright - it was BZ-CRPLS. Also, coiled up my stainless herms coil this weekend with the jig, worked great! Went with 17'' OD for my pots.

Also tried the roggenbier - it is awesome. Will be adding a full sack in addition to my split for rye. I really like the stuff and think I found my house hefe.

 

[copyright1997]

Hey copyright - it was BZ-CRPLS. Also, coiled up my stainless herms coil this weekend with the jig, worked great! Went with 17'' OD for my pots.

Also tried the roggenbier - it is awesome. Will be adding a full sack in addition to my split for rye. I really like the stuff and think I found my house hefe.

re: BZ-CRPLS. thanks for confirming.
re: Stainless Herms coil jig - so, should I order a SS coil and have it sent to your house for processing? (I haven't picked up my pots yet so I'm not absolutely sure on the dimensions.)
re: Roggenbier - gotta recipe to share?

Also, did you ever try that Celebration clone? I did a re-brew with Columbus instead of Chinook. It's OK, but not as nice.

(Did a batch last week and 2 batches this week: "Golden Nugget", an attempt to make a session-like version of Nugget Nectar, Sculpan Ballast Point IPA, Kabe's Secret APA)

 

[jeffb418]

I spend the weekend working in the hop garden. Doubled the growing are and extended the height of my hop poles to 14'. Split up my cascade and Libery plants each to 4 plants. Should be a good year. In addition to those two I'm also growing fuggles, brewers gold, magnum, williemete, perle, nugget, and chinook.

What do you guys grow?

 

[TwoGunz]

I have some liberty that I grew in 2 pots last year. I split it up this weekend and am going to plant it up north at my parents lake house. I got a really nice bag of rhizomes from the 2 pots I had.

I planted EKG, Perle, and one other I can't recall right at their house now 2 years back and the leaves got stripped clean. I hasn't dusted them or anything but I might need to.

Cidah, post your rye recipe or email it (please of course). I might finally dip into my rye next weekend- I want to keg and brew since I didn't get to it this weekend.

 

[CidahMastah]

re: BZ-CRPLS. thanks for confirming.
re: Stainless Herms coil jig - so, should I order a SS coil and have it sent to your house for processing? (I haven't picked up my pots yet so I'm not absolutely sure on the dimensions.)
re: Roggenbier - gotta recipe to share?

Also, did you ever try that Celebration clone? I did a re-brew with Columbus instead of Chinook. It's OK, but not as nice.

(Did a batch last week and 2 batches this week: "Golden Nugget", an attempt to make a session-like version of Nugget Nectar, Sculpan Ballast Point IPA, Kabe's Secret APA)

will get back to you on all of this tom. but yes to a whole bunch of those movie time with the wife

 

[CidahMastah]

Twogunz - Will try to get the recipe posted or will send via PM - don' have it on hand right now though unfortunately! The rye gives the brew a really nice body.

As for the celebration clone taste off that is scheduled for this weekend! I will be letting you know the results soon because we will have a few good palates to use as my friend is rolling into town.

We can definitely work out some bending arrangement - would love a little offset to the jig. I am thinking now that a stainless chiller might be the way to go as well. The cost of the 304 stainless is really reasonable. It was a pain to do in the sense that I needed a hand to get the coil to behave and actually do it quickly, but once the jig was set up the overall process wasn't too bad. The coil looks great, uniform, etc. Next is ordering about $300+ in hardware for the rest of the herms build and once last pump. Then Paaint for the stand and finally a venting system (this fall). So wahoo!

 

[CidahMastah]

Conical Group buy -

There is a neighboring group buy that I ahve had contact with regarding a conical group buy. I will be getting some details and photos of the conicals, and if anybody has interest in participating then please let me know by pming me your email address. The details are all pending, but I would be happy to pass all the info along.

 

[jeffb418]

Awful quiet in here *crickets*

 

[Mparsons327]

We need to get these hop splits filled! I'm also curious about getting grain splits going again on the next swap? Anyone have any ideas to how we could make that work?

 

[jeffb418]

We're discussing the possibility of doing some limited organized splits but nothing has been decided yet. I think we would like to do them again but the buys have grown in size so fast that we're trying to make it easier to manage for everyone (delivery point and cider handling payments).

 

[copyright1997]

We're discussing the possibility of doing some limited organized splits but nothing has been decided yet. I think we would like to do them again but the buys have grown in size so fast that we're trying to make it easier to manage for everyone (delivery point and cider handling payments).

I'm fairly set for splits, but can still offer suggestions. It seems that splits could still be done but limited in a few ways:
1. Limit split to those grains for which it doesn't make any sense for any one person to get a full sack. For example, the crystal malts and carapils. Don't allow splits for what are essentially base grains: 2-row, MO, Vienna, even things like Munich. This will reduce the # of splits.
2 Limit the number of sacks in each buy eligible for splits. For example, "we will only have 6 sacks that can be split per group buy".
3.For most splits, limit the # of splits to a max of 3. I'm personally wishing on some things that I got a 1/4 sack, that I had actually gotten 1/3.
4.As you are doing now, for those fairly local to each other, encourage them to buy a sack and split it among themselves after pickup.

Of course, this is all easy for me to recommend as I'm not the one having to measure and split things up, being so far away (Albany).

 

[TwoGunz]

Hey copyright, I keep forgetting to tell you I tried your blue moon clone on my last brew day while I was zesting oranges and brewing my first wit. It was tasty and put me in the right frame of mind! I haven't busted out the SN clone comparison yet- I want to get my brother in law over to enjoy that.

Thanks again

 

[rustbucket]

well, i might be in this one too, depending on when it goes through.. (i might be moving back to syracuse at the end of june... so we will see...)

if so all hell will break loose.... i havent brewed in 2 months and going through withdrawal

 

[TwoGunz]

Boom, I just kegged 4 batches and hit the boil on two new ones! I'm going to pitch on the cake I used for my wit and make a rye saison with it -- really looking forward to seeing how it turns out. It should be perfect by the lake this summer. I also used a touch of the aromatic malt from one of our previous buys for a Vienna style ale, haven't used it before either so we'll see!

 

[jdowling]

subscribed. I updated the spreadsheet with my intended purchases . Let me know if I did it wrong at all!

 

[jdowling]

I did have one quick question. Does anyone have an amber malt recommendation? When I was looking through the malts I didn't see one. I'm probably just being blind. I know that amber can go by various names though.

 

[TwoGunz]

I did have one quick question. Does anyone have an amber malt recommendation? When I was looking through the malts I didn't see one. I'm probably just being blind. I know that amber can go by various names though.

I've been using the Franco-Belges Kiln Amber and like it. I use it in a lot of my beers in a small quantity.