Syracuse, ny - round 6 group grain buy

[brian4508]

Looks different from the one in the recipe section. The one I've done a few times:

Milk Stout (Left Hand)

7.75 # US Pale Malt
1 # Roasted Barely
12 oz C60
12 oz Chocolate Malt
10 oz Flaked Barley
8 oz Flaked Oats
4 oz Munich
1 # Lactose (15 min)
0.75 oz Magnum (60 Min)
1 oz Kent Goldings (10 Min)
Yeast: I've used both Denny's 50 and American Ale from Wyeast

Mash at 155 for 60 mins.

I love the taste of it, and I finally got my hands on LHBC Milk Stout locally. And I actually like this recipe over the real stuff.

Where did you get the LHMS?!?! I live in Liverpool (bayberry) and I have been searching ALL over!!

 

[brian4508]

First, Merry Christmas everyone!

I just got into AG a few months ago and SWMBO hooked me up today. Not one, but TWO turkey fryers (so I can, in her words, do two brews at once), a yeast starter kit, a grain mill, grains, hops, and yeast for a batch of brew (LHMS clone, my favorite so far), brewsmith software, and a carboy cover.

So, she either likes my brews so far, wants me away from her, or is just plain clueless of what she did (lol)!

So lucky to have her!!

 

[brian4508]

First, Merry Christmas everyone!

I just got into AG a few months ago and SWMBO hooked me up today. Not one, but TWO turkey fryers (so I can, in her words, do two brews at once), a yeast starter kit, a grain mill, grains, hops, and yeast for a batch of brew (LHMS clone, my favorite so far), brewsmith software, and a carboy cover.

So, she either likes my brews so far, wants me away from her, or is just plain clueless of what she did (lol)!

So lucky to have her!!

Btw, I'm from the Syracuse area and once I get my bearings on AG, you'll see my name on the order sheet for the group buy!

 

[jeffb418]

Where did you get the LHMS?!?! I live in Liverpool (bayberry) and I have been searching ALL over!!

I found it at Marcy Beverage out in Rome/Utica area. Call ahead to see if they still have any : MARCY BEVERAGE

 

[brian4508]

I found it at Marcy Beverage out in Rome/Utica area. Call ahead to see if they still have any : MARCY BEVERAGE

Awesome! Thanks so much. I go out there. Twice a month for work. I will check them out!

 

[CidahMastah]

belated merry xmas guys.

Had to say I am super pumped - I was having some issues with my pid and finally autotuned it. Now my water heats and stops at the exact temp I tell it to. Before I was getting a slight overshot and decided to wait to autotune until I brought the rig indoors. Anyway... very pumped. Doing my guinness rebrew and home to get in the celebration brew either today or this week. Also looking to do a pilsner urquel clone so I can let that one sit for a long time to lager!

CBK think I will be taking on your wee heavy recipe this weekend! Any substitute for challenger that you have had luck with in the past? Just in case the LHBS doesn't ahve it, I know I don't

 

[CBK]

I have used Northern Brewer and noticed no difference. Perle hops should work as well. By the way my deception cream stout is going fast. Really thinking about doing this one again. Good luck and hope you enjoy the Scotch Ale. The longer it is aged the better it gets.

 

[CidahMastah]

I have used Northern Brewer and noticed no difference. Perle hops should work as well. By the way my deception cream stout is going fast. Really thinking about doing this one again. Good luck and hope you enjoy the Scotch Ale. The longer it is aged the better it gets.

gonna grab the yeast today and try to ramp up a good starter for this weekend, kind of pushing it with time, but oh well! Only thing I am missing is the peat smoked malt

Yeah my deception is almost gone! Was a hit over the holidays with my dad - he couldn't believe the creamy aspect of the nitro either. I am getting worried my oatmeal stout rebrew won't be ready for nitro in time!

Thanks for the hop sub, I might just run with the NB hops because I have a over a lb of them. I have been in a lb hop buying phase (just buy a lb of whatever hop I need) I have a freezer full of hops and need to start ripping through them



Do you think the MOPA makes a big difference? I was considering using CM-PALE since I have a lot of it.

 

[CidahMastah]

so of course the lhbs had peated malt.. but not smoked. I grabbed some smoked malt too, so I will either have to smoke the peated malt myself if I have time, or make an adjustment for peated and smoked malt additions. at least they had the yeast!

 

[CBK]

Sorry for the delayed response had to leave for work. (B shift) Peated malt is distillers malt smoked over peat. A little bit goes a long way. This is a very malt forward beer. FWIW IMO MO would be the preferred base for this style of beer.

 

[jeffb418]

so of course the lhbs had peated malt.. but not smoked. I grabbed some smoked malt too, so I will either have to smoke the peated malt myself if I have time, or make an adjustment for peated and smoked malt additions. at least they had the yeast!

Yeah, peated malt is smoked malt. Just opening the container at Sunset and you'll get hit in the face with smokeyness.

 

[TwoGunz]

Merry christmas as well guys! Im doing a hop inventory now planing what I want to brew. I'd like to get 4 batches in this week (maybe 2 lagers and 2 porters) but I'll need to finish off a keg first to make room. I'm not feeling great so I'm going to have to rely on some pinch- drinkers

 

[CidahMastah]

Merry christmas as well guys! Im doing a hop inventory now planing what I want to brew. I'd like to get 4 batches in this week (maybe 2 lagers and 2 porters) but I'll need to finish off a keg first to make room. I'm not feeling great so I'm going to have to rely on some pinch- drinkers

Haha nice - sounds like you have some time off like I do!

just started my pilsner/celebration ale strike water Haven't decided yet.

Thanks for the info on the peat - I thought it smelled super strong, but have never used this malt before, so I was sort of unsure what to expect.

 

[CidahMastah]

Looks like the celebration won out for today. Hopefully tomorrow I will be doing the lager with a mashout decoction!

 

[CBK]

I will be kegging your celebration this weekend. Been doing a lot of stouts and porters. Am definitely ready for a nice hoppy beer

 

[CidahMastah]

I will be kegging your celebration this weekend. Been doing a lot of stouts and porters. Am definitely ready for a nice hoppy beer

Yeah that was my thing too. Love the darks but started to think I was overlaoding... hence the pilsner urquell! Which I did today. Didn't get as much boil off as I hoped so ended the brew session heavy on volume. However ended at 1.050-1.051 (was shooting for 1.056). Had a bunch of wort left over over (fermenting in kegs since I am out of fermenters!).

I did a single infusion mash with a mash out decoction that I boiled for 20 minutes. Used distilled water too since my water is hard. Anyway, looking forward to it!

 

[CidahMastah]

Anybody have a super aweseom cream ale recipe that is girlfriendly? My wife wants me to brew her one.

Thanks!

 

[jeffb418]

Anybody have a super aweseom cream ale recipe that is girlfriendly? My wife wants me to brew her one.

Thanks!

Im brewing an Irish Blonde today myself. Not sure how its gonna come out.

 

[copyright1997]

Anybody have a super aweseom cream ale recipe that is girlfriendly? My wife wants me to brew her one.

Thanks!

I've made the Centennial Blonde recipe, you could try that with some of that corn split. Also, the squeeze my lemon blonde looks good. No links as I am typing this on my phone.

 

[CidahMastah]

I've made the Centennial Blonde recipe, you could try that with some of that corn split. Also, the squeeze my lemon blonde looks good. No links as I am typing this on my phone.

well when can you get me some links man!!! ha

 

[CidahMastah]

Not great pics but some of the cream stout on nitro. Getting really consistent pours on this, ending with the head shown - Enjoy!

 

[CidahMastah]

And a couple shots of the brew rig so far. Still not painted and we are working on where and how to put in a swing arm for the control panel, as well as a way to mount the pumps (only have one now but plan to get a second soon).

First you have the power I just recently ran in so I can have two GFI 30 amp outlets going to two control panels (one for HLT and the other for the BK).

Next is the stand shots and the current control panel I have. Going to be making two separate panels in the near future (santa brought me a second PID for xmas).

You can see I ghetto rigged the pump switch for the brew sessions with a clamp

ok now off to get some stuff done... unbrewing related!

 

[CidahMastah]

cbk - any special fermentation temps for the scotch ale (ramping, etc.)? or just keep it at around 68?

 

[CBK]

cbk - any special fermentation temps for the scotch ale (ramping, etc.)? or just keep it at around 68?

I usually ferment at the low end of the recommended temp range for the yeast being used. 65 for WLP028 or 60 for Wyeast 1728. Could probably go as low as 55 for the 1728. I am still using the swamp cooler method do not have room for a ferm chamber. It is good to see your rig coming together. Is the Blingman in the pic the 15 gallon pot that is for sale?

 

[CidahMastah]

I usually ferment at the low end of the recommended temp range for the yeast being used. 65 for WLP028 or 60 for Wyeast 1728. Could probably go as low as 55 for the 1728. I am still using the swamp cooler method do not have room for a ferm chamber. It is good to see your rig coming together. Is the Blingman in the pic the 15 gallon pot that is for sale?

ok cool, i will follow suit with the scotch ale ferment temp. I always try to honor the recipe first (then I can't blame anyone but myself if it screws up! haha)

That is the blingman my buddy wants to sell to upgrade. That one is his pot, the HLT is mine, including electrical (15g MEGAPOT). The BK is his pot 25g MEGAPOT), and my electrical. We tried to split the hardware as much as possible. When we do the double batch of the scotch ale we will be pushing the MT limits haha. It is a 39lb grain bill plus 50+ qts strike water, it won't fit. so chunkier mash or might do a second mash in a small pot w/ a few lbs of grain. My tun can hold 36lbs and 45qts strike water at 1.25/lb grain strike to grist ratio. Perfect for most IPAs, but barley wines push it.

Love that blingman. For a MT I am convinced you can't beat them and their false bottoms.

Thanks for the tips on the scotch ale - we are planning to either do a solo run, or do the scotch ale and a cream ale for my wife (and of course me)

 

[CBK]

I am currently doing 5 gallon batches. Been wanting to step up to 10. Have a 10 gallon blingman and 2 10 gallon coolers. Been thinking about a 15 gallon blichman mlt and a 20 gallon brewpot. It would probably be tight for a big beer. How much grain can you fit in the 15 gallon tun with 1.25 qts/pound?

 

[CBK]

Sorry dude. Just reread your post and you already answered my question. Yeah I love my Blingman too. I think I could make this work with a 20 gallon brewpot, a 15 gallon mash tun and my 10 gallon blickman as a HLT with a cooler for backup if I need more sparge water.

 

[CidahMastah]

Sorry dude. Just reread your post and you already answered my question. Yeah I love my Blingman too. I think I could make this work with a 20 gallon brewpot, a 15 gallon mash tun and my 10 gallon blickman as a HLT with a cooler for backup if I need more sparge water.

Ha!

Yeah I think you could. I only went 25 with the BK just in case I went nuts... and to avoid boilovers with 11g batches. The 15gmt is perfect for 95% of our batches. But my buddy wants bigger! haha.

The HLT at 15 is plenty big for us. We could upgrade, but that is a lot of dough for just hot water

Kate the great was a 40lb is grain bill. My efficiency plummeted when I had to go less than 1.25qt/lb on that one. still made he brew, but we kept saying, man, a 20g MT would be nice.


Last note on this, the less head space the better for heat retention. i.e. since the 15g MT for most reasonable grist bills (36lbs or less) gets filled right up you lose little or no heat based on that and the thermal mass. So part of me wants to jump to the bigger tun; however like I said for 95% of the brews we do a 15G tun is perfect. I am wondering if we went to a 20G tun if we would have heat loss issues. So if someone buys it great... if not... great! I will let fate decide - in the mean time we will make beer!

 

[CidahMastah]

Happy new year gents!!

I am sure that you are enjoying some of your hard worked brews tonight (I know I am). We are toasting the new year with some of my over 2 year old champagne styled cider I made.

Cheers!

 

[Smashing]

Happy New Year!