Super Simple 15G Plastic Conical

[HomeBrewFoSho]

I have never needed a blow off tube with 11 gallons in there.

Is yours sealed air tight?

 

[SavoryChef]

Not at all. I haven't got around to it. My beers are in there for only three weeks max

 

[DuffyBros]

I saw a really simple way to seal the lid of these on probrewer.com forums:

http://discussions.probrewer.com/showthread.php?26572-Plastic-Fermenter-setup

 

[DuffyBros]

This was the link for the gasket they used.. Only $9.99. And he used a blow off tube and took pictures of how it works.

http://conical-fermenter.com/Lid-Gasket-for-15-Gallon-Conical-Fermenter-with-Ring-Clamp.html

 

[HomeBrewFoSho]

That's looks pretty good, but having taken the bottom "attached" ring off and seen the gap under it I would still be a little worried. that gasket will seal it I'm sure but you will still get crud under the ring that may be hard to clean. Nothing a good soaking wouldn't clean up but why bother?

 

[FredTheNuke]

Food grade silicone works awesome for underneath the threaded collar. Others have had luck with double o-rings in the threads for the actual lid.

 

[HomeBrewFoSho]

This just seems the simplest and cleanest, definately air tight. To each their own
$6 for the lid gasket and $1 each for the bungee cords. And yes I'll be doing a blow off tube

 

[DuffyBros]

Food grade silicone works awesome for underneath the threaded collar. Others have had luck with double o-rings in the threads for the actual lid.

Never heard of double o-rings.. Have a link or part you could share? Cheers

 

[FredTheNuke]

Just 2 o-rings instead of one. Earlier in this thread someone had posted the McMaster Carr part number of the o-rings they successfully used on Ace Roto Mold conicals.

 

[jflongo]

I just contacted Rural King yesterday to ask why I haven't gotten my conical yet. I ordered it 8 weeks and 2 days ago. They said they will email me today to find out. LOL.

 

[SavoryChef]

http://www.oringwarehouse.com/ 70-durometer Silicone, Red
This is where i got mine. I can't remember the sizes though.

 

[FredTheNuke]

http://www.oringwarehouse.com/ 70-durometer Silicone, Red
This is where i got mine. I can't remember the sizes though.

Awesome website. THanks~!

 

[SavoryChef]

The part numbers are 0568-453 & 0568-454. Put one oring on the inside of the screws and one on the ouside

I don't have an oring under the lid so its not air tight as of now

 

[jflongo]

So do you guys think this would be a good fit for the valve to connect to the bottom?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JQJOIQ/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[fpweeks]

I would recommend going with a valve that is easily removed. so either :

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GLUML4/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GLUMVO/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

OR

http://www.brewershardware.com/1-1.5-Tri-Clover-X-1.5-Male-NPT.html
http://www.brewershardware.com/1.5-Tri-Clover-Butterfly-Valve-Squeeze-Trigger-TC10VBFVST1.html

 

[jflongo]

I would recommend going with a valve that is easily removed. so either :

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GLUML4/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GLUMVO/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

OR

http://www.brewershardware.com/1-1.5-Tri-Clover-X-1.5-Male-NPT.html
http://www.brewershardware.com/1.5-Tri-Clover-Butterfly-Valve-Squeeze-Trigger-TC10VBFVST1.html

I already have this valve.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GLUMVO/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

The question is connecting the valve to the conical, will this work fine?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JQJOIQ/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[FredTheNuke]

That one would work. I used the polypropylene one but the SS would work. Ensure you use the ss hose clamp on the conical side. If the valve side leaks I'd seal it with a bead of FDA approved clear silicone adhesive.

 

[jflongo]

That one would work. I used the polypropylene one but the SS would work. Ensure you use the ss hose clamp on the conical side. If the valve side leaks I'd seal it with a bead of FDA approved clear silicone adhesive.

Would it help to smear all the threads with Keg lube?

 

[fpweeks]

When I frst built one if these I used the banjo quick disconnects. They made it really easy to remove the valve and clean it after each use.

You obviously use a threaded nipple, but for a few bucks you could set yourself up with the QD's which are nice, before and after the valve.


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[jflongo]

When I frst built one if these I used the banjo quick disconnects. They made it really easy to remove the valve and clean it after each use.

You obviously use a threaded nipple, but for a few bucks you could set yourself up with the QD's which are nice, before and after the valve.


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So this

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...8.5&ei=0C_xUoSdKMWTyQGYpoCICw&ved=0CH4QpiswAg

and this

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro....3&ei=NzDxUr2ABc2ayQHSgIHgAg&ved=0CO0CEKYrMA8

and this?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JQJOIQ/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[fpweeks]

the way mine was set up was:

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...8.5&ei=0C_xUoSdKMWTyQGYpoCICw&ved=0CH4QpiswAg

^ this attached to conical

Then this attached to valve
http://agrimart.net/female-cplg-1-1-2-male-thread-150b/

Then you could attach another Male QD on the other side of the valve which you could attach a homemade yeast catcher to........

the QD's IMHO make it much easier to pull apart and clean the valve......

 

[jflongo]

I just pulled the trigger on those 2 items on Amazon Prime, I should get them on Friday. Thanks. I'll think about the yeast catcher options later. I still need to build a stand, etc, so I'm sure it will be a little bit before I get to use this. This is a good start.

 

[FredTheNuke]

Would it help to smear all the threads with Keg lube?

I did cover my threads with keg lube to ensure I didn't gall the conical's female threads. It made the process much easier and sure didn't hurt anything. Equivalent of teflon tape in my opinion.

 

[jflongo]

Just curious, has anyone tried to add a coupling to expand the opening on the out of the valve, and then just screw in a Ball Canning Jar to it? I was thinking of trying that.

 

[fpweeks]

I have seen where someone did that. I forget exactly how they attached it, but it is a pretty neat idea. I started down that path with mine, and ended up abandoning the Banjo pieces parts, and buying stainless parts from brewers hardware, including an 1-1/2" sight glass that i use as a yeast catcher. I would never go back at this point.

Its great to be able to see what the yeast you have caught looks like. Sometimes theres still a bit of trub in it, so i'll dump and try again until i get the good stuff.

 

[FredTheNuke]

the canning jar threads are not the same TPI.

 

[fpweeks]

i searched for the thread but couldn't find it. I think they may have drilled out a widemouth lid and attached it to a 1" nipple..like a weld less fitting but with a ball lid instead of a kettle.....or something similar.

 

[WPStrassburg]

I have seen where someone did that. I forget exactly how they attached it, but it is a pretty neat idea. I started down that path with mine, and ended up abandoning the Banjo pieces parts, and buying stainless parts from brewers hardware, including an 1-1/2" sight glass that i use as a yeast catcher. I would never go back at this point.

Its great to be able to see what the yeast you have caught looks like. Sometimes theres still a bit of trub in it, so i'll dump and try again until i get the good stuff.

I cut a piece of ss to the same size of a mason jar lid, drilled a 1.5" hole in it for a tc ferrule and silver soldered it. Cut a gasket out of silicone sheet stock and she seals up nice. Works great and I'm doing a 2" one next.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/mason-jar-sight-glass-harvester-423808/

 

[WPStrassburg]

Just curious, has anyone tried to add a coupling to expand the opening on the out of the valve, and then just screw in a Ball Canning Jar to it? I was thinking of trying that.

The tc ferrules are just a bit too small to mate up directly with a mason jar. Even if it did mate up the ferrule is too thick and the lid doesn't thread on enough to provide a reliable seal.

 

[SavoryChef]

I cut a piece of ss to the same size of a mason jar lid, drilled a 1.5" hole in it for a tc ferrule and silver soldered it. Cut a gasket out of silicone sheet stock and she seals up nice. Works great and I'm doing a 2" one next.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/mason-jar-sight-glass-harvester-423808/

Thanks for posting the link, I'm gonna have to make this.