Stone 15th Anniversary Escondidian Imperial Black IPA clone

[cody6173]

I wouldn't adjust with the dark sugar, DME if needed would be your best bet but if you are planning on missing the OG then maybe try lowering the efficiency on your recipe and use more grain or sparge more and boil longer to concentrate the wort before starting the hop schedule.

Still dialing in my efficiency on my new all grain system. The last three brews have had sporadic efficiency at best. Just trying to see what would be my best bet for a correction

 

[ultravista]

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[cody6173]

Brewed the half recipe this afternoon and I guess my efficiency just sucks. I mashed at 152 and ended up with 5 gallons pre boil at 1.067 ish. With about 30 minutes left in the boil I checked gravity with a refractometer and realized I was gonna be way low on gravity so I managed to scrounge up 12 oz of light DME and a pound of dextrose. I know I probably threw the profile all out of whack but oh well. Long story short I ended up with around 4 gallons in the carboy at 1.090. This crappy efficiency is killing me. I've batch sparged with both a braid and a false bottom and can't manage to get out of the low 60's.

 

[ultravista]

I mash in a bag (voile) and consistently hit 70+% and never a stuck run-off.

 

[954surfer]

Okay, looking up our Escondidian clone attempt ("E" caps)... 67 % LDME; 8% crystal 80, check. We used 8% munich, not sure if that factors... 5% chocolate malt, 5% candi sugar, 3% carafa II, 2.6% smoked malt, 1.3 % black patent. Came out waaaay to much dark stuff, to my taste buds. God knows what else, I remember it blew out all over my buddys rented bathroom ceiling. But that was oh eleven, and they still dont taste right. Look my 2 cents is take your best Imperial IPA, add 3% carafa, and call it cloned. Send me one, cuz I freakin lov the stuff. Mitch Steele is really smart but this should be really simple. IMO. Sorry I didn't log the hop schedule, but I guarantee even though it involved simcoe, it was insufficient, but hops was not what made it off.

 

[cody6173]

What does everyone think about kegging this beer rather than bottling? I know it's probably to high of a gravity to properly age on tap but I don't have enough bottles right now. What's everyone's opinion on pros and cons?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

It doesn't need to age, but does age ok. Aging will cause loss of hop flavor/aroma.

 

[robthebrewer]

I'm going to brew your recipe next week. I was wondering about the candi sryup into the boil at last 15min.? Or what did everyone else do
Thanks
Rob

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I'm going to brew your recipe next week. I was wondering about the candi sryup into the boil at last 15min.? Or what did everyone else do
Thanks
Rob

Last 15 is good

 

[cody6173]

I blended the full batch and the half batch that I brewed of this yesterday. Kegged 5 gallons with 3 oz of Nelson in the keg for the dry hop and bottled the rest without ever dry hopping just to see how it turns out. I'll post an update once I've had a chance to taste each in 2 weeks or so.

 

[robthebrewer]

I got this brewed yesterday everything went good, over shot my volume a little bit = 2hr boil. The only grain I changed from your recipe I used carafa 2 special instead of carafa 3 & I used your suggestion and used 1.75 oz pacific jade at flame out.
My SG 1101 Pitched onto a California 001 yeast cake & air lock bubbling 1.5 hr later.

 

[LovesIPA]

I'm very interested in this recipe. I will add this to the brewing schedule and let you know how this turns out. I plan on bottling half of it and kegging the other half. I owe my buddy a case for the great deal he gave me on his chest freezer and he loves high ABV hoppy beers. This can't miss!

 

[cody6173]

Just tapped the keg that I blended and dry hopped in the keg. Turned out better than I expected. This could be trouble.

 

[robthebrewer]

Just racked my brew onto 2oz Nelson Sauvin Gravity after 14 days in the primary 1018 Looks like 11.1%.
Planning to let the dry hop go for 7 days unless there are any recomendation out there to go longer ?

 

[drawdy10]

I would do a 5 day dry hop, not 7 or more

 

[robthebrewer]

5 day dry hop it will be . Looking forward to getting this brew kegged
Thanks

 

[cody6173]

Just my two cents but I dropped 3 oz. of Nelson Savin in a hop bag and suspended it in my keg and left it. Bout half way through the keg and its delicious

 

[LovesIPA]

I scaled this up to a 7.5 gallon batch. My plan is to bottle a case for a friend and keg the rest. 7.5 gallons of water, 20 lbs of 2-row, 2 lbs of Crystal 80, and a pound each of chocolate and carafa III *barely* fit in a 10 gallon igloo cooler FYI.

Unfortunately I only have an 8 gallon kettle so I'm going to collect 7.5 gallons of wort in the main kettle and do all the hop additions there. I'll boil the rest on the kitchen stove and mix them together during chilling and then into the fermenter.

I hope this works!

 

[drawdy10]

Has anyone that brewed this amazing recipe considered scaling it down to a regular Black IPA ABV? Say 6% or so? I love this recipe, just wondering if it is possible to get a similar flavor profile, albeit subdued of course, while lowering the ABV to a more quaffable range. What I think is most unique about this recipe is the use of the candi syrup, then the unique and great hops or course. I am considering cutting the grain values proportionately while maintaining similar percentages and raising the mash temp to not dry it out too much. Thoughts?

 

[LovesIPA]

Just brewed 7.5 gallons of this monster today. OG was 1.099 so I was only .03 points off. That's darn good considering my mash tun was *full*. Can't wait to taste this one!

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Has anyone that brewed this amazing recipe considered scaling it down to a regular Black IPA ABV? Say 6% or so? I love this recipe, just wondering if it is possible to get a similar flavor profile, albeit subdued of course, while lowering the ABV to a more quaffable range. What I think is most unique about this recipe is the use of the candi syrup, then the unique and great hops or course. I am considering cutting the grain values proportionately while maintaining similar percentages and raising the mash temp to not dry it out too much. Thoughts?

Sounds like it should work out well.

 

[robthebrewer]

@ Drawdy10 Black IPA 6% 60 ibu sounds good, Keep us updated . As for my Stone brew everything is looking good & tastes good , I just got it kegged yesterday

 

[drawdy10]

Brewing this tonight!

 

[LovesIPA]

Brewed this a couple weeks ago and tasted a hydro sample today when I dry-hopped it. Couldn't resist! It was delicious. I can't wait until this one is ready.

 

[LovesIPA]

After a few days of carbing, this beer tastes awesome. Maybe a little green but great hop flavor and aroma.

Highly recommend this recipe!

 

[drawdy10]

Almost six months since the last time I made this, got the supplies and gonna brew up another batch in the next couple weeks!

 

[Atticus1019]

Newbie to the forums here.. Brewed this last Saturday and fermentation is going craaaaaazy. Went from 1.112 (a little high I know) to 1.06 in 3 days! The sample I took is still really thick- think the consistency of thick whole chocolate milk. Anyone else get this? I would have thought with such a drastic drop in gravity it would have thinned out a good bit (or more than it has so far). Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks!!

 

[skeezerpleezer]

1.06 is still pretty thick. It is higher than the starting gravity for a lot of beers. If you pitched enough healthy yeast, mashed right, and the yeast had some oxygen you will be good.

I see you are in Decatur....I am in Roswell. If you want to share a bottle or trade some homebrews let me know. I haven't got to try anyone else's version of my recipe yet so am interested!

 

[Atticus1019]

1.06 is still pretty thick. It is higher than the starting gravity for a lot of beers. If you pitched enough healthy yeast, mashed right, and the yeast had some oxygen you will be good.

I see you are in Decatur....I am in Roswell. If you want to share a bottle or trade some homebrews let me know. I haven't got to try anyone else's version of my recipe yet so am interested!

Man that would be awesome! I'm nervous about this one as I had a few hiccups on brew day but if it's not a total crapper I'd be happy to share my results! Just moved here from Athens so I'm still getting a feel for the home brew community in the area. Always looking for people who enjoy making the beer they drink! Just curious, what was the final flavor profile of your beer like? I never had the original 15th anniversary but the recipe sounded yummy so I went for it.

 

[Atticus1019]

Man I'm having all sorts of fun with a stuck fermentation. Never had this happen before. Hoping it will turn around after a little coaxing on my part.