Still alive - just tackling a HUGE DIY

[Huaco]

Wow! Those compound miters are nice and clean looking!
Care to share your "online calculator" links?

 

[Jester369]

Wow! Those compound miters are nice and clean looking!
Care to share your "online calculator" links?

After googling 'compound miter calculator' I found http://jansson.us/jcompound.html. Pretty slick tool that made it MUCH easier.

 

[Huaco]

Oh yeah, Google. Pfft! who'da thunk it!
Thanks man. I will check it out.

 

[BeardedIdiot]

That bathroom ceiling gives me a headache just looking at it... Very ambitious. Can't wait to see what you do with the dome over the staircase!

 

[Doed]

Hey Jester here is one more suggestion (I'm sure you get a lot, both here and from family/friends), put a central vacuum in. The electric motor can be mounted in the garage and the exhaust vented outside. So dust blows outside. You can put a toekick port in under cabinets etc. so you can just sweep floor dirt right to the toekick. We have one and I think it is great.

Spectacular job on the house.

 

[TyTanium]

Jester...in case you need any help framing:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/s...Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even

 

[the_bird]

Jester...in case you need any help framing:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/s...Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even

Wow. That is a whole different kind of "epic."

 

[Mdsutton]

Jester,
What is the cool Lego stack and fill block?

thanks!

 

[Jester369]

Hey Jester here is one more suggestion (I'm sure you get a lot, both here and from family/friends), put a central vacuum in. The electric motor can be mounted in the garage and the exhaust vented outside. So dust blows outside. You can put a toekick port in under cabinets etc. so you can just sweep floor dirt right to the toekick. We have one and I think it is great.

Spectacular job on the house.

Central vac guy is coming on Monday, actually. I'm buying all the gear from him, and installing it myself. The hose actually stores in the walls, and I am considering the toe kick option too!

 

[Jester369]

Jester...in case you need any help framing:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/146566-Build-to-Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even

Yyyyyeah maybe not :-D

 

[Jester369]

Jester,
What is the cool Lego stack and fill block?

thanks!

It's a company called QuadLock

 

[Jester369]

So after a few hours yesterday making a template, today was a long, tedious exercise in repetitious **** work. I cut 28 large and 8 small ribs out of 3/8 ply:

Then cut, ripped, and dado'd all the material I need to make these:

Weary and dusty. I got 5 done, and figure it's going to take me most of tomorrow to get the rest completed. Why did I decide to do a dome?? Oh yeah, cuz Red thought it would look cool. And she's right, as usual.

 

[the_bird]

Well, she's right, as I suspect she usually is; that's going to be epic when it's completed. I'm just watching a video now about how to dryway a domed ceiling; aigh, that looks like a PITA!

 

[Jester369]

Ugh - after two solid days of labor and almost $600 in materials, I think I'm going to have to scrap plan a. Just not enough structural integrity. Wouldn't do to get it all built and have it come down again, yes? Looks nice, though.

 

[BeardedIdiot]

Maybe try something like this?

http://www.archwaysandceilings.com/dome-ceiling/

 

[Jester369]

Maybe try something like this?

http://www.archwaysandceilings.com/dome-ceiling/

Yeah, that's where I got the structural idea for the dome originally. Unfortunately for a 15' dome they wanted almost $6,000!

 

[GotPushrods]

A reciprocal "dome" would look awesome with exposed beams. It is much easier if you first model the design, but they are VERY strong.

 

[pigroaster]

I have installed three of these in three homes. Kitchen clean ups and tracking dust is swept away. Your mate will hug you forever!!

 

[Cdburkhart]

I built a dome for a project once...after two days of drafting and eight days of fabrication, it was done.

I don't envy you...

 

[BeardedIdiot]

Yeah, that's where I got the structural idea for the dome originally. Unfortunately for a 15' dome they wanted almost $6,000!

Really?! Wow! I guess if you actually get a specific quote its a little higher. The little estimator calculator is telling me a little over $1,600 for a soft 15' dome.

Well, I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm sure it will turn out looking fantastic whatever you decide!

 

[dfess1]

Jester...in case you need any help framing:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/s...Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even

thanks, I just wasted the entire morning...

 

[Jester369]

Really?! Wow! I guess if you actually get a specific quote its a little higher. The little estimator calculator is telling me a little over $1,600 for a soft 15' dome.

Well, I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm sure it will turn out looking fantastic whatever you decide!

I don't remember the details at this point, but when I put my specs in now, I too get 1,600. I know it wasn't that low before or I would have for sure gone that route. Ah well, it'll get done either way!

 

[rockinmarty]

I don't remember the details at this point, but when I put my specs in now, I too get 1,600. I know it wasn't that low before or I would have for sure gone that route. Ah well, it'll get done either way!

must have been with shipping.

 

[STEVESKI]

Reading this thread is like watching a very good TV series. You're better off not finding out about it until it's over that way you can read/watch it all the way through instead of having to wait to see what happens next. Amazing work Jester. As someone who is dreading building a collar for a keezer, I really admire people who can do this kind of stuff. I'll stick to building software.

 

[Jester369]

So here is the first method I used to make the dome: The ribs were nice and light, and strong, but where they attached to the hub they were very flimsy - the wood just wanted to split horribly, even with pre drilling.

So I went with a solid two-by rib, formed from two smaller pieces joined with a plywood plate glued and stapled into place.

I also made provisions for bolting each rib to the hub with a hardwood plate so that they won't split. Now that I have the basic structure down, now I just need to crank out a bunch more.

 

[BeardedIdiot]

Looking good!

 

[Jester369]

Ok, so some progress...

Here are some of the rib parts waiting for assembly:

And here they are in place:

And, no, it's not a perspective thing - that hub is canted. Not on purpose. Since I have more full ribs on one side than the other, I realized it was never going to sit level under equilibrium. So I did a little rigging:

The turnbuckle let me get it just where I wanted it. I may add a couple more similar for when that central brace gets removed once all the ribs are in place.

Also, there will be another set of shorter ribs between the main ones around the outside to give a tighter on center spacing for the drywall to attach where the curve is more pronounced.

And on a totally unrelated topic, my pantry sink arrived!

 

[LandoLincoln]

Welp, you have thoroughly convinced me never to try building a dome. I'm sure it will look great, but oh lordy...what a pain.

 

[Pickled_Pepper]

Had to sub so I could follow along. Incredible stuff.

 

[241]

Wow, that dome!

It is going to look very cool but man... what a PITA! Reminds me of building half pipes as a kid but 1000x worse!