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[day_trippr]

I don't think there was that much coverage of SpaceX's recent tribulations, negative or otherwise. Frankly I think the public and press have become fairly jaded about rocket launches as the result of SpaceX profoundly successful record, so anything out of band is given some notice in the media, but not hardly shouted from rooftops...

Cheers!

 

[tracer bullet]

Very interested in how Starliner fares. Really interesting to read all the concerns being addressed about undocking it and getting it home. Certainly do hope it comes back intact. The more successful more companies are at this the better.

 

[OakIslandBrewery]

I guess no one hears me shouting from the rooftop.

 

[balrog]

Yeah, about that. Karen from the Homeowner's Association would like to have a word.

 

[day_trippr]

And now there's this

The Starliner spacecraft has started to emit strange noises​

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[balrog]

And now there's this

The Starliner spacecraft has started to emit strange noises​

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"This weekend's sonar-like noises most likely have a benign cause"

Have these people *NEVER* watched *ANY* space horror films??!!

 

[passedpawn]

Too bad the media can't report on the many positive successes.

Negativity bias. It's baked into the human condition based on a million years of evolution and survival. For example, if Gombo eats a plant and instantly dies, you (Gubgub) will never forget that plant will kill you. That thought is front and cerebral center. Because, you want to live. Sure, our media could evolve a little quicker, but maybe not LOL.

 

[passedpawn]

"This weekend's sonar-like noises most likely have a benign cause"

Have these people *NEVER* watched *ANY* space horror films??!!

Sometimes I DO ACTUALLY LOL.

 

[passedpawn]

And now there's this

The Starliner spacecraft has started to emit strange noises​

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Starman: Houston, it's making a weird noise.
Houston: uh... please elaborate...

 

[passedpawn]

LOL. Chris Hadfield is a former canadian astronaut. I posted a video of him in this thread 11 yrs ago, post #11. (has it been that long... geeeez).

 

[passedpawn]

In one year the Orion spacecraft (Lockheed Martin) launches as the Artemis II mission. This will have a four-person crew and is expected to do a lunar (moon) pass by. Why? Artemis III mission (2025) is expected to land on the moon.

Of significance: the Artemis I mission (2022), with the same Orion craft, sustained some unexpected and significant damage to its heat shield on reentry to our atmosphere. Yikes. Nasa said that if they were to redesign the heat shield, the whole program would get pushed back. Bill Nelson, NASA chief, said Artemis launch is still on schedule, so I guess they are gonna go with the shields as-is. But I'll tell ya, looking at that damage there... yikes.

 

[balrog]

Rub some dirt on it. It’ll be grand.

 

[Pkrd]

Just come back at night when it’s cooler. Or land in Antarctica. Or both.

 

[balrog]

I miss astrophotography, the simple kind I practiced, back when I was young. I keep thinking I'll get back into it. Then I see things like this. (taking astrophotos in the StarLink era)

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/6vKXq3AENcVsrBmT/

 

[day_trippr]

I mentioned Orion's heat shield issues earlier, conflating it with Starliner. Different systems, the Orion solution is multiphase, new to USA ships, and indeed did not meet expectations on its one...flight....test.

Sketchy.

 

[passedpawn]

Just come back at night when it’s cooler. Or land in Antarctica. Or both.

Lol. There is something they can do without changing the design. They can change the angle they approach the earth's atmosphere. More direct angle lowers the time those shields are heated, which might lessen the effect on those tiles. With a more direct angle, the crew capsule "punches" right through the atmosphere, but this also increases the deceleration on the astronauts. It's traditionally referred to as "g"s. Anyway, it's not pleasant.

 

[day_trippr]

The Polaris Dawn mission launch is scheduled for a wholly uncivilized 3:38 AM tomorrow (Tuesday) and may be visible here in Massachusetts...

https://www.wcvb.com/article/spacex-rocket-launch-massachusetts-sight-southern-horizon/62117323

 

[balrog]

The Polaris Dawn mission launch is scheduled for a wholly uncivilized 3:38 AM tomorrow (Tuesday) and may be visible here in Massachusetts...

https://www.wcvb.com/article/spacex-rocket-launch-massachusetts-sight-southern-horizon/62117323

Kewel!
Except for the whole southern area around me is thick with tall trees.

And that 3:48 just ain’t gonna happen.

 

[day_trippr]

Yup. I'll catch the reruns on youtube....

 

[Rish]

Don't think I'll stay up for this one, either. Should be cool, though.

https://www.space.com/spacex-polaris-dawn-private-spacewalk-webcast

 

[Pkrd]

Webcast is live, spacewalk scheduled in an hours time.

 

[Pkrd]

This surprised me. Electron getting walked out to the pad.

 

[balrog]

In other space news, keep an eye open for a comet come end Sept, early Oct
https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-...hinshan-atlas/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

 

[day_trippr]

Partial lunar eclipse on Tuesday.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiec...se-exactly-when-to-watch-from-every-us-state/

 

[Rish]

I completely missed the news on this! Saw it referenced in another article today.

https://starlinerupdates.com/

 

[passedpawn]

Chinese rocket company, Deep Blue, looks to compete with SpaceX and the re-usable booster stage. They don't quite stick the landing though (getting close!). FF to the end of this video for the exciting conclusion.

They definitely get a A+ for drone video though - badass. SpaceX could take a tip here.

 

[passedpawn]

It's often commented that Chinese industry has a big advantage in speed of development because they don't bother with employee and environmental safety standards. I don't know too much about that, but there's this video lol.

 

[balrog]

It's often commented that Chinese industry has a big advantage in speed of development because they don't bother with employee and environmental safety standards. I don't know too much about that, but there's this video lol.

That's just the new model -- crowd sourced rocket recovery.

 

[passedpawn]

There is an atmosphere leak in the ISS. It's leaking air to space, and it's getting worse - quickly.

A long, long time ago I did risk analysis in a facility with nuclear material. "Risk" is the product of likelihood of something happening times the resulting consequence. We rated each (likelihood and consequence) from 0 -> 5. So, for example, the likelihood of the hydrogen tank exploding was a 1, but the consequence was a 5 (in fact, there was a day care in the area). So that risk would be a 1x5=5.

When the risk gets over a certain number, it's a problem (and requires mitigation, but that's another story).

Anyhoo, NASA uses the exact same risk rating method. They now deem the risk numbers for this issue 5 and 5, the highest rating. I'm sure they will just airlock off the area with the problem. But this shows why the ISS age is a factor.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/...cking-a-highest-risk-and-consequence-problem/

 

[passedpawn]