I had to stop trying, got relocated and my new space doesn't allow me the luxury of a brew station. A few things for the record, one : I hear through the grapevine that Somersby is dead,. So, if you can find it, scarf it up for comparisons to our attempts. Secondly, I do believe that without added flavor concentrates, this is going to be difficult to replicate....or you can try making your own juice from apples better suited for hard cider, all of the pre-made juices just aren't cutting it.