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Karn Kreft

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Hello everyone,
would you mind assisting me in a little research? I'd like to know what you turn to, when it comes to homebrew?
Steins, goblets, tumblers etc. What is your ideal cup and why? I work with clay, thrown on my potter's wheel.

As a side note, I am enjoying researching historical beer mugs. Here are a few I admire particularly, from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and V&A.

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Hello everyone,
would you mind assisting me in a little research? I'd like to know what you turn to, when it comes to homebrew?
Steins, goblets, tumblers etc. What is your ideal cup and why? I work with clay, thrown on my potter's wheel.

As a side note, I am enjoying researching historical beer mugs. Here are a few I admire particularly, from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and V&A.

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1560 --------- 1600s ------- 1500s ----------1900s----------1500s-------Bronze Age--------1654----------1600s
For medical reasons I only have a small amount but spread over time so to have it at the right temperature I use very small beer steins that originally shipped with a quite pleasent German Mustard:
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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/31615689558...5eNJb9xRXrShPfL5JXyZSlifo=|tkp:Bk9SR6qdgrTFZQ
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Unfortunately, as a potter you're not going to like my answer. As a homebrewer, I take some pride in how my ales and beers look and appearance is also an aspect of quality control, so that kinda rules out spun pottery. It's a shame because the examples you posted are beautiful. I mostly stick to glass nonic pint glasses, pint pots, and a pilsner glass for my lagers.

I'm sorry! I wish I had better news for you, but I figured an honest answer was likely the best answer.
 
Apologies! I've been drinking several of those since I realized it was too cold for me to work outside today and didn't immediately grok that you were looking for things to make. In the early 90's here in Ontario, there was a guy on the craft circuit who made unique vessels and went by the name "House of Moods". He used a then new 'food-safe silicone' finish to preserve his chosen clour finishes, but unfortunately after 10 years or so it begins to break down. I have many of his works. Here's a few; a toothpick-holder, a tea-light, and a beer mug:
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Please ignore the dust! For above mentioned medical reasons, detailed housekeeping is....problematic. If not for the chemical breakdown, I'd be using one of these mugs which I believe were initially inspired by the 50's Welsh "Ugly Mugs".... Thing is; this guy was a Tolkien fan and every piece he made was signed with an elvish rune. Between me and my GF, we have many, especially coffee mugs. (it's simple neurology: the faces trigger the neuromechanical 'mimicry' function and are a great uplifting way to start the day....also pleasent while drinking with friends...good for general mental health :p )
Anywho...if you aren't familiar, do look up Welsh "Ugly Mugs".... they are just nice to have and use:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=welsh+ugly+mugs&ia=web
:mug:
 
I drink out of whatever is clean at the time, mostly, but given the vessels in your time progression there - I'd have to go Bronze Age.
 
i love libby 5 oz mini pub tasting glasses. they tend to break but they are the perfect size. but i also like 8 oz mason jars. the clear or cut crystal ones both work great for me. they NEVER break

anything bigger gets me drunk too quick for my liking.

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Our family used to have some older beer steins with the pewter lids, ornate and painted like Hummel figurine scenes from Bavaria. Lost to time. But not a big bummer - I like to see what I am drinking, all glass. Nonics, pints and pilsner glasses.

Yeah , me too @sibelman - I also have some mini sized, scaled down versions of a nonic and a pilsner glass. Love em for the size that improves variety before getting full.
 
I prefer glass vessels to consume beer, I have a tulip, an english pub glass, a pint glass, but as a chemist my favorite go to is a set of "beer chemistry" glasses , They are adorned with the chemical structures of the various compounds in beer (H20, CO2, Lupulone, humulene, glucose, ethanol, etc. etc.). They are sturdy and pretty thick (mics out to 0.155 inch). They are pictured alongside some ale from a local brewery which is quite good.
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Hello everyone,
would you mind assisting me in a little research? I'd like to know what you turn to, when it comes to homebrew?
Steins, goblets, tumblers etc. What is your ideal cup and why? I work with clay, thrown on my potter's wheel.

As a side note, I am enjoying researching historical beer mugs. Here are a few I admire particularly, from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and V&A.

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1560 --------- 1600s ------- 1500s ----------1900s----------1500s-------Bronze Age--------1654----------1600s
I can truly appreciate the art of all of the mentioned vessels in both form & function, but TBH as an equal opportunity destroyer of all beer, wine & spirits, I would prefer to see what & how much of my product is in my "cupeth". To that extent, is there room for a hybrid? Pottery with still a way to see my beverage? I do like the heft & temperature sink of a clay vessel whether hot or cold, but many people [myself] drink with their eyes as well.
 
Unfortunately, as a potter you're not going to like my answer. As a homebrewer, I take some pride in how my ales and beers look and appearance is also an aspect of quality control, so that kinda rules out spun pottery. It's a shame because the examples you posted are beautiful. I mostly stick to glass nonic pint glasses, pint pots, and a pilsner glass for my lagers.

I'm sorry! I wish I had better news for you, but I figured an honest answer was likely the best answer.
Not at all. I was wondering about this too, since in a clay mug you also can't see how well it foams.
 
I can truly appreciate the art of all of the mentioned vessels in both form & function, but TBH as an equal opportunity destroyer of all beer, wine & spirits, I would prefer to see what & how much of my product is in my "cupeth". To that extent, is there room for a hybrid? Pottery with still a way to see my beverage? I do like the heft & temperature sink of a clay vessel whether hot or cold, but many people [myself] drink with their eyes as well.
I was wondering about this. I am interested in adding glass windows to my work, (especially stained glass in some of my other ceremonial pieces) but have yet to come up with a safe and effective method.
 
I prefer glass vessels to consume beer, I have a tulip, an english pub glass, a pint glass, but as a chemist my favorite go to is a set of "beer chemistry" glasses , They are adorned with the chemical structures of the various compounds in beer (H20, CO2, Lupulone, humulene, glucose, ethanol, etc. etc.). They are sturdy and pretty thick (mics out to 0.155 inch). They are pictured alongside some ale from a local brewery which is quite good.
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The chemical structures are beautiful too. I have been enjoying the little insight to chemistry that learning to glaze is giving me. Though it's largely beyond me, I start to know which chemicals are a flux or refectory etc. This combined with an interest in history, has lead to a curiosity of alchemy. I've made a set of stamps with alchemical symbols related to my glaze recipes.
 
If we're talking clay. I desperately want a lambic pitcher.
Noted. I've had these on my reference list for a while. I'm struggling with mixing a good cobalt base for painting the lettering though. My last test wasn't too shabby, so soon I should be all painted boats and jolly quotes.
 
Apologies! I've been drinking several of those since I realized it was too cold for me to work outside today and didn't immediately grok that you were looking for things to make. In the early 90's here in Ontario, there was a guy on the craft circuit who made unique vessels and went by the name "House of Moods". He used a then new 'food-safe silicone' finish to preserve his chosen clour finishes, but unfortunately after 10 years or so it begins to break down. I have many of his works. Here's a few; a toothpick-holder, a tea-light, and a beer mug:
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Please ignore the dust! For above mentioned medical reasons, detailed housekeeping is....problematic. If not for the chemical breakdown, I'd be using one of these mugs which I believe were initially inspired by the 50's Welsh "Ugly Mugs".... Thing is; this guy was a Tolkien fan and every piece he made was signed with an elvish rune. Between me and my GF, we have many, especially coffee mugs. (it's simple neurology: the faces trigger the neuromechanical 'mimicry' function and are a great uplifting way to start the day....also pleasent while drinking with friends...good for general mental health :p )
Anywho...if you aren't familiar, do look up Welsh "Ugly Mugs".... they are just nice to have and use:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=welsh+ugly+mugs&ia=web
:mug:
And later still, the ancient Roman made face pots too! It's a reoccurring theme for potters.

That's a shame about the silicone. Sealing work which isn't fired and glazed is perplexing to me. All I have tried in that area is bees wax, for sealing some Bronze Age style works. It was very effective actually.

Tolkien's creativity still inspiring us every day! I think you're right, I should make some pints with expressions!
 
I like glass because I like to see the beer. I like dimpled mugs, reminds me of beer in pubs from my youth. I also use pint glasses, and I have a few goblet style glasses for Belgianish beers.
My close friend who is also a serious beer fan prefers mugs with some insulating properties that keep beer at serving temperature as he drinks it slowly. I don't need to worry about that.
My mom who believe it or not is a serious beer afficionado, likes handmade pottery, and argues that it increases her enjoyment noticeably. She'd be the one who would appreciate a potter working to perfect beer mugs.
 
Google isn't cooperating with me, so I can't post a picture, but I know there was kind of a standard pattern ceramic mug used in England right before glass became cheap enough for drinking beer. They were thin and straight, and glazed with pale pastel colors. They exist more only as antiques. I have always thought about having a potter make me a set.

I wish I could remember more.
 
I drink pretty much everything out of Weyerbacher tulip glasses. They're versatile, work well for ales, porters, lagers. Oktoberfests from a Sam Adams mug.
Somebody told me all the cool kids are drinking everything out of these “teku” glasses. I must not be that cool because I never heard of it til then and I don’t have any.

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