Should we pass a law against twist-off tops?

[aubiecat]

This is a semi sarcastic post but since I started brewing I have stopped drinking beers that have twist off tops on them. Seems like such a waste now.
Anybody else have this affliction?

 

[rifraf]

I certainly do, and every time I'm over at a friends house I get excited to steal their empties and disappointed if they're twist off...

 

[ajbram]

I hate twisties, but I think the BMC swilling masses are too dense to figure out how to use a bottle opener. Convenience is not the issue here. I currently have 3 bottle openers attached to me in some way or in easy access: Keychain (looks like an old key), watch band (nice titanium one decoratively attached to the leather), belt buckle (on the back of it). Like I said, it's easy to always have a bottle opener handy, so it's not a convenience issue. It's a stupidity issue.

 

[Revvy]

Um, there are quite a few CRAFT brews that use, or at one time used twist offs, including about half of the bombers in the Lagunitus line, Founder's has a few 12 ouncers including Centennial Ipa, Dieu Du Ciel, Sierra Nevada (including bigfoot), Tyranena, Allagash White, Goose Island, Saint Arnold, Rahr & Sons, Sprecher, Southern Tier, Summit, Blue Point, Unibroue's 12 oz, Shipyard Pugsley's Select series 22oz bottles are twist off, Otter Creek has a couple, the Point Whole Hog Series, Boulevard's 12oz stubby bottles, everything by full sail, Péché Morte, Capital Brewery, Avery has twist off caps, at least on Maharaja, lost coast, Session Lager and all the Alaskan Brewery beers have twist-offs and that's just off the top of my head....


So what's this about "Ignorant Bmc drinkers?"

Boy, if I stopped buying beers that came in twist offs, I'd be missing out on some hellacious beers.

 

[ajbram]

I'm aware of the fact that many of our beloved craft breweries use twisties as well. SN did for quite a while. Here in Canada, Creemore bombers used to be twisties, and lots of the smaller craft breweries take advantage of the fact that Ontario has a bottle return program that operates at 92% efficiency. I'm a fan of pry-offs whether its on my beer or Coca-Cola. I guess its a mixture of nostalgia, elitism, and the fact that I have had numerous chipped, cracked or improperly sealed twisties, but never a problem with a pry-off (although that's probably more of a brewery problem than an inherent bottle problem).

My point was more a rhetorical, somewhat sarcastic response tot he OP's sarcastic question. As long as the big breweries use twisties, then we would never be able to ban them. My experience with friends who prefer drinking fizzy yellow water, is that they HATE pry-offs because they find the need to use a bottle opener inconvenient. I'm merely pointing out that I don't think it's a matter of inconvenience. I have been known to enjoy as many beers in an evening as any of my BMC (or Labatt's) swilling compatriots and having to pry-off my lids has never slowed me down,

 

[TopherM]

If anything, the latest trend is putting everything into cans. Cans are CHEAPER for the brewery and keep beer FRESHER LONGER than bottles.

So be careful what you wish for, your favorite brewery might quit using bottles all together!

 

[rifraf]

Yeah I suppose I should clarify that I'm currently boycotting twisties until I have sufficient numbers of empties!

 

[kh54s10]

I have a friend who has a lot of drinking friends, so now I have plenty of bottles.

That reminds me, the last batch is still in the bed of my pickup!

Now I might prefer buying a beer in twist offs, if I am taking them somewhere, so I don't have to take an opener also.

 

[Lunchtime]

I love the new trend of craft beers in cans. There are so many situations where glass isn't allowed. The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Revvy]

I love the new trend of craft beers in cans. There are so many situations where glass isn't allowed. The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, just as long as there's still plenty of pryoffs for homebrewers starting out. I've got a ton, but in five years, what will happen to "Joe Noob" just starting out.

 

[ajbram]

I have a friend who has a lot of drinking friends, so now I have plenty of bottles.

That reminds me, the last batch is still in the bed of my pickup!

Now I might prefer buying a beer in twist offs, if I am taking them somewhere, so I don't have to take an opener also.

Thanks for reminding me... I think I have a couple of cases of empties in the back of the truck from the co-workers who support my cause!

 

[ArcaneXor]

Just keep in mind, if it's something that concerns you, that most cans use liners containing BPA.

And just to emphasize, many of the breweries listed by Revvy that used to use twist-offs now use Pry-offs for all or most of their products.

 

[Lunchtime]

Yeah, just as long as there's still plenty of pryoffs for homebrewers starting out. I've got a ton, but in five years, what will happen to "Joe Noob" just starting out.

He can buy them at the LHBS like I did lol

 

[BrewKnurd]

I hate twisties, but I think the BMC swilling masses are too dense to figure out how to use a bottle opener. Convenience is not the issue here. I currently have 3 bottle openers attached to me in some way or in easy access: Keychain (looks like an old key), watch band (nice titanium one decoratively attached to the leather), belt buckle (on the back of it). Like I said, it's easy to always have a bottle opener handy, so it's not a convenience issue. It's a stupidity issue.

I guess I'll just go ahead and point out that not everyone wants to carry around bottle openers. Its great that you do and so its not a convenience issue for you, but not everyone is you. So yes, it is a convenience issue for many.

Personally, I also carry a bottle opener around on my key chain.

As for the OP... i quickly got to the point where i had plenty of bottles, and therefore don't care at this point what type of vessel my beer comes in. If its a bottle I can add to the collection, great. If not, no biggie.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Now I might prefer buying a beer in twist offs, if I am taking them somewhere, so I don't have to take an opener also.

if you're a smoker, the trusty ol' Bic doubles as an opener.

i laughed when i saw the post about not buying twist off bottles. the last few 6ers of Schell's Dark i've bought were twist offs. GI had twist offs on everything for a good while until last year. and until last year, Summit's caps were twist off. those are just the regulars in my fridge, i often buy great beer in that happens to have a twist off cap.
FWIW, you can cap twist offs with a bench capper.
as far as cans go, i'm a big fan. i'm play a lot of disc golf and throwing a 6 pack of bottles in my bag is not possible, plus many courses are public parks with 'no glass' laws, so the 6 pack of cans is the way to go. with all the craft breweries canning now, the selection of beer i can take with me is great. :rockin:

 

[Lunchtime]

I wouldn't know what beers are a twist-off...I never try and twist them off. I buy craft beer and just assume it's not so I use my bottle opener without even thinking about it.

 

[Revvy]

He can buy them at the LHBS like I did lol

Now THAT'S what there should be a law against. Buying EMPTY bottles.:cross:

 

[spearko520]

you don't need a bottle opener to open beers- anything more than 2" long with an edge an sufficient strength can serve as an appropriate lever. I've used everything from rocks to shovels. I will guarantee that, unless you are in some very unusual situation, there are at least 3 potential bottle openers within 10 feet of your person... hmmm - that might make a good thread... but i agree, cans are the way...

 

[rifraf]

Now THAT'S what there should be a law against. Buying EMPTY bottles.:cross:

I support!

 

[ajbram]

I guess I'll just go ahead and point out that not everyone wants to carry around bottle openers. Its great that you do and so its not a convenience issue for you, but not everyone is you. So yes, it is a convenience issue for many.

Personally, I also carry a bottle opener around on my key chain.

This is the most convenient bottle opener ever.... and stylish too!

 

[maffewl]

All I have to say is War Eagle to aubiecat.

 

[Lunchtime]

I support!

I like having all of my bottles the same size...plus I don't drink enough anymore to collect bottles...I needed an extra case last weekend so I could bottle and it was a pain in the tookus. I held out and didn't go buy an extra case but only b/c the LHBS is quite a drive lol.

 

[aubiecat]

All I have to say is War Eagle to aubiecat.

War Damn Eagle!

 

[Zamial]

Bottle whoring you say? I am one of the worst. If I had my way everyone would bottle in swing tops.

 

[Lunchtime]

There should be a law against the Auburn Tigers saying "War Eagle"....GO GATORS!!!

 

[E-Mursed]

When I think of twist0offs I think about money.

People give me twist-offs thinking I can use them, I accept them and smile politely, then make my way to the store for the deposit. That's 10 cents a piece too.

If you don't want your twist-offs...I will gladly take them. *Cha-Ching!*

 

[aubiecat]

Wow I didn't expect to start such a hot thread. I was more or less saying it's funny how my thinking has changed in the last few months because I brew bear and I need a stock of empty bottles.
At some point I'll start back with the twisties but for now it's pry-offs.

The one statement made in this thread that I thought was funny was saying people don't want to have to carry around a bottle openers. The watch band with the bottle opener kind of blew that one away.
Where there is a will there is a way.
Even back when I was a Bud light drinker, I always got the long neck bottles and knew every way there was to pop a top off a bottle. I used to have a BO key ring too.
Just saying.........

 

[bernerbrau]

Let's also stop buying wines with screw-tops. Because "everyone knows" that screw-top wines are cheap swill.

 

[osagedr]

I have nothing against twist-offs; I use them for 95% or more of my bottles.

Having said that, I carry a bottle opener with me at all times--to SWMBO's chagrin!

 

[Revvy]

Noone's mentioned the ring.

If you're really badass, the brass knuckle opener.

Great for opening bottles and for bar fights!!!!