Shiner Cheer recipe

[Groner]

I saw that he tried an all grain version and I didn't know if he would have any problems lautering with all the wheat. I have never made a wheat beer before and am wondering if I needed to add any additional hulls for filtering.

Oh, I see. I didn't have any problems with the Lauter. I use a manifold with a stainless mesh hose covering though, not much but wort gets through that.

 

[jasondlr]

Hey guys, I just brewed a batch this weekend and was wondering what the consensus is on when to add peach juice and pecans if the brew is to be kegged? Should I add both when I transfer to secondary?

Thanks!

 

[william_shakes_beer]

I don't keg, so my experience is indirect. However, I had problems with the pecan peices getting stuck in my bottling wand and sticking the foot valve open. If I were you i would NOT put the pecans in the keg, and I will probably not break them into peices next time I brew it. Peach juice, i put into the primary 48 hours after i pitched the yeast. I don't have an extra fermenter so doing a secondary doesn't work for me. In readings I have done hdere it seems that the co2 generated in primary fermentation can dri ve off a lot of the flavorings used in Beer.

 

[Groner]

I am still new at this but I added the flavoring and pecan pieces to my secondary carboy. I will have to see if they get stuck in my bottling wand or not but I feel like it will be safe. Just a suggestion that may help, only cut the halves into quarters. I started to cut the halves in half, and then again, and realized that the instructions may lead you to think they should be cut into eighth size pieces. The quarters should be too big to get stuck but we shall see. Also I used apricot flavoring for a little sweeter flavor, I'll let you know how it works out.

 

[jasondlr]

Thanks for the info guys. Fermentation is starting to settle down on mine so I will probably move to secondary this weekend. Looking forward to getting this on tap for our Christmas beer party in mid December.

 

[Groner]

In the bottles!

 

[Elweydoloco]

Hey guys. I never replied but the clone of this I tried was ridiculously close and tasted amazing!!! Follow my directions and I blanched the pecans in vodka prior to adding to the primary to get off any oils and nasties. The pecans I think 80 grams were baked until almost smoking as well in the oven. I threw them in the primary let it sit a month and it was AMAZING. I'm making a batch tomorrow actually.

 

[Groner]

Here it is after a week in bottles. I think it's very close! Though mine is a bit hazy. (I don't have a wort chiller yet...) the flavor is very similar. Head characteristics are very similar, as is the mouth feel. Of course, using the apricot flavoring set it apart a bit. Next time I think I will stick to the peach. Overall, I like it! Which is good because I made two 5 gallon batches on back to back weekends. I am knee deep in joy!

 

[Elweydoloco]

Groner it looks damn good sir!!! I'm on my third batch of this stuff now. I've obviously fine tuned the recipe since the first time and have it pretty close IMO. I'll list my exact recipe and put up once this one is done.

 

[zmanzorro]

I went ahead and brewed this over the weekend. I also did this as a mini mash and I am waiting to put in the peaches and pecans in the secondary when its time.

Things learned so far:

1. Buy shelled pecans. It takes forever to shell them yourself and never come out in whole pieces, much less half or even quarter. And watch out for larvae in the pecans too.

2. Peaches are out of season right now. I hoping to use fresh ripe peaches, but had to go frozen instead.

 

[dynohack]

Hey guys,

I was looking to get started on an all grain version of this in the next day or so. Going to brew up a basic AG Dunkelweizen recipe from the LHBS and get started on that but had some questions around the pecans & peach additions since there were a few of you seemingly using different approaches.
Is there a consensus on the amount and preparation of each additive?

Here's what I was able to gather (and this could be way off):

24oz pecans - halved, blanched with salt water then same with vodka
16oz peach juice (I'd prefer going with the juice than flavoring)

I will be kegging this, so my additions will be to the secondary.

Does this sound anywhere close to what you guys did?

Cheers! (get it?)

 

[zmanzorro]

This weekend, I just switched mine over to the secondary and split it into 2 smaller batches.

#1: 8 oz Pecans, 4 lbs of frozen peaches
#2: 2 oz Pecans, 1 lb of frozen peaches

No idea how either will turn out, but will definitely post when I bottle and carbonate them both.

 

[william_shakes_beer]

I'm drinking mine now. A nice little beer but little in the way of peach or pecan flavor. I don't think I roasted the3 pecans long enough. Next time I'll try either peach nectar or peach extract, and up the pecans to 32 OZ. Something to look forward to next year.

 

[Scutrbrau]

mjhszig mentioned using Safale S-04 yeast in his recipe. What have others used?

I'm looking forward to brewing a batch of this. This is the first beer my wife likes enough that she wants 5 gals. of it.

 

[gpitrone]

This weekend, I just switched mine over to the secondary and split it into 2 smaller batches.

#1: 8 oz Pecans, 4 lbs of frozen peaches
#2: 2 oz Pecans, 1 lb of frozen peaches

No idea how either will turn out, but will definitely post when I bottle and carbonate them both.

Which one of these turned worked best?

Have you tried the Shiner Farmhouse? It's pretty awesome as well.

 

[zmanzorro]

Which one of these turned worked best?

Have you tried the Shiner Farmhouse? It's pretty awesome as well.

Neither turned out well. Both versions soured but neither tasted of peaches nor pecans.

 

[gpitrone]

Neither turned out well. Both versions soured but neither tasted of peaches nor pecans.

That's not good. Not what I was hoping to hear.

 

[william_shakes_beer]

What does shiner farmhouse taste like? This is the first I'v heard of it.

 

[Elweydoloco]

Hi all I'm sorry I never posted this I've done probably 5 batches of this haven't had one sour. Remember to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS blanche your fruit or nuts before adding to your recipe to remove any wild yeast strains. A definition of blanching is included in the resipe below.

5 Gallon Batch

7.25 lbs of 6 row
1/2 lb carafoam
3.5 lbs German dark Munich
.25 lb American chocolate malt
1.5 oz hallertau 4.5 alpha acids full boil 60 minutes
.5 oz hallertau same as above 15 minutes
.25 oz tettnanger 4.5 AA 5 minutes
Wyeast 2565 kolsch (don’t skimp on the yeast please get this specific strain)

60 minute boil standard mash in temp 155 degrees no more than 158 I shoot for 155. 170 for sparge. Roast 12 oz pecans at 275 30 minutes flip in between Blanche in vodka BE CAREFUL WITH BLANCHING!!!! Blanching – Boil the pecans in the vodka on low heat on the stove as alcohol boils quickly and evaporates. However this is alcohol it WILL catch on fire if not careful keep a rag around throw it on top or just blow it out with your mouth. I do a lot of fusion cooking and weird things in the kitchen so this doesn’t scare me. If it scares you, you can always blanche in water. However I find alcohol to kill any wild yeast much better. Throw pecans in primary.

4 tablespoons of Brewers Best peach extract at bottling. You can add more if you want a stronger peach flavor or less obviously. However 4 is what I settled on after a few batches to get close to the Cheer.

No more than 3 weeks in the primary as you don’t want any nasties from the pecan floating around in there. OG about 1.062 FG around 1.02 (Dark beer less fermentables higher FG and Kolsch Wyeast is low attenuation)

 

[texashomer]

Elweydoloco,

Any chance you'd share your OG and FG numbers? I just purchased the ingredients for your recipe and I'm playing with the numbers.

Thank you...

 

[mrstevenund]

Wyeast 2565 kolsch (don’t skimp on the yeast please get this specific strain)

What temperature do you ferment at with the kolsch yeast? I know some yeasts give off different esters at different temperatures.

 

[VulgarCelt]

Ok so the first recipe here (page 1) is a dunkel weizen. The AG recipe (page 5) is a more traditional dunkel. Does anyone have any idea how they compare both to one another and to actual Cheer?

From my exhaustive (and selfless) research on the topic I would assume that Cheer is a bit more of a classic dunkel...thoughts?

 

[VulgarCelt]

Found this online:

Shiner Holiday Cheer Happy Holidays from the "Little Brewery" in Shiner, TX. We hope you enjoy your Shiner Cheer, an Old World Dunkelweizen brewed with Texas peaches and roasted pecans. The malty flavors of this dark wheat ale are enhanced through the use of malted barley and wheat. And Kräusening ensures a smoothness that makes the subtle peach and pecan flavors all the more satisfying. May your days be merry and bright and your Shiner be cold. Prosit!

 

[Sanker]

Reviving this old thread. Has anyone made a cheer clone lately? Anyone have an updated Partial Mash recipe? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[mjoh216]

I am about to make a Shiner Cheer clone using a dunkelweizen recipe from olybrew.com (extract) and adding the pecan and peaches. My plan is to add them to a secondary for two weeks and then bottle. Thoughts?

 

[Slade7077]

Do the pecans go in immediately after primary fermentation? If kegging, does peach extract get added to keg?

 

[WhoDatDad78]

I went ahead and brewed this over the weekend. I also did this as a mini mash and I am waiting to put in the peaches and pecans in the secondary when its time.

Things learned so far:

1. Buy shelled pecans. It takes forever to shell them yourself and never come out in whole pieces, much less half or even quarter. And watch out for larvae in the pecans too.

2. Peaches are out of season right now. I hoping to use fresh ripe peaches, but had to go frozen instead.

Seems like pasteurizing is the way to go anyway to get more flavor right?

 

[GoodBookBrewer]

The first time I tried this, I used the Brewer's Best Dunkelweizen extract kit and added the pecan and peach flavors myself. It turned out awesome. I am about to do an AG version using the dunkel recipe found on this thread, but will add the flavorings just like I did before:

10oz shelled pecans. Chopped in 1/4s, Blanched in vodka, and then roasted in oven until dry (not yet smoking, but could smell them roasting). Didn't do a secondary, but let primary go for 2-3 weeks prior to adding pecans.

1.5oz peach extract. Added to bottling bucket.

Pecan/Peach balance was delicious. Got great feedback from local HB club. Flavors were not overpowering, just background...like the real thing.

 

[WhoDatDad78]

The first time I tried this, I used the Brewer's Best Dunkelweizen extract kit and added the pecan and peach flavors myself. It turned out awesome. I am about to do an AG version using the dunkel recipe found on this thread, but will add the flavorings just like I did before:

10oz shelled pecans. Chopped in 1/4s, Blanched in vodka, and then roasted in oven until dry (not yet smoking, but could smell them roasting). Didn't do a secondary, but let primary go for 2-3 weeks prior to adding pecans.

1.5oz peach extract. Added to bottling bucket.

Pecan/Peach balance was delicious. Got great feedback from local HB club. Flavors were not overpowering, just background...like the real thing.

I'm brewing a Cheer variation on Saturday GoodBookBrewer. I think I'll be borrowing your Pecan process.

Has anyone tried the Peach juice in secondary with any luck yet? If so how much and where exactly in the process?

 

[WhoDatDad78]

The first time I tried this, I used the Brewer's Best Dunkelweizen extract kit and added the pecan and peach flavors myself. It turned out awesome. I am about to do an AG version using the dunkel recipe found on this thread, but will add the flavorings just like I did before:

10oz shelled pecans. Chopped in 1/4s, Blanched in vodka, and then roasted in oven until dry (not yet smoking, but could smell them roasting). Didn't do a secondary, but let primary go for 2-3 weeks prior to adding pecans.

1.5oz peach extract. Added to bottling bucket.

Pecan/Peach balance was delicious. Got great feedback from local HB club. Flavors were not overpowering, just background...like the real thing.

Marked. Mine is almost ready for pecans.