session hoppy saison critiques

[andrea93]

hi all!
here there's my recipe for my next brew, a session hoppy saison:

5 gallon
og 1038 ibu 30

6lb belgian pils
1.8lb vienna (20%)
0.9lb wheat malt (10%)

styrian golding to 30 ibu 60min
1.4oz cascade 15min
1oz cascade 0min

wyeast3711 french saison

my goal is to obtain a very refreshing and easy drinkable beer where yeast brings peppery and spicy notes to the party, and cascade brings citrus and fruity notes to the party. i'd like to have a good balance between yeast and hops with a slight dominant role for citrus/fruity notes. would you do hop addition at 15 or 10 minutes left to the end of the boil?
i also think to use vienna malt to have a bit malt presnece and to avoid an excessive watery mouthfeel.
have you got any advice?

 

[Bosh]

That seems like a lot of grains going in if you're looking for 1038 OG for a five gallon batch. By my calculations you'd hit it with 51% efficiency, which seems low...

 

[andrea93]

That seems like a lot of grains going in if you're looking for 1038 OG for a five gallon batch. By my calculations you'd hit it with 51% efficiency, which seems low...

oh sorry! the correct amount of grains is:
6lb pils
1.8lb vienna
0.9lb wheat malt

now i've changed it also in the thread

 

[Bosh]

That looks tasty. Vienna works well with saisons. I'd probably boil the cascade just a liiiiiitle bit less but what you have looks good.

 

[tagz]

That would be too bitter for my tastes, especially with the low OG. I would do 20 IBUs at 60, and then all the rest at flameout.

With 30 at the start of the boil and an ounce an a half at 15, you're going to get way more bitterness than flavor.

 

[andrea93]

That would be too bitter for my tastes, especially with the low OG. I would do 20 IBUs at 60, and then all the rest at flameout.

With 30 at the start of the boil and an ounce an a half at 15, you're going to get way more bitterness than flavor.

no addiotion at 10 min? i'd like to have also hop flavor

 

[Owly055]

no addiotion at 10 min? i'd like to have also hop flavor

I often do my additions at under 5 minutes..... Often 2 or 3 minutes, and then whirlpool some at a lower temp. Particularly with pellet hops, it takes very little time to absorb the flavor.

Look at your BU/GU ratio, or at one of the charts that are available on line. With your low gravity, the perceived bitterness will be much higher than with a higher gravity.


H.W.

 

[Bosh]

Also keep in mind that online calculators generally lowball just how incredibly dry Saison yeast can get your beer.