Selling Brew

[casebrew]

I couldn't find the thread about Beerparson, was it here?

I guess the state and local health folks are the worst. I think the federal tax is $10 per gallon of alcohol, which would work out to 75 cents per gallon of 7% beer? $1.50 per case? Probably has a form like a 1040? City stuff would be like a beer bar/restauraunt, which varies a lot? Health codes usually prohibit home cooking so needing a location means volume enough to pay the rent, which means bigger equipment, which cost more, and need bigger space, more rent, more taxes... But states would pobably be the worst, just because they can. Like they do in California with spray booths too.

So you can't start off at the swap meet level, like so many other home businesses. You'd have to go microbrewery or nix.

But this is all conjecture on my part, based on 20 years in my own small business, plus 5 years in restaurants, and 15 concurrent years on a bar stool.

 

[dibby33]

I couldn't find the thread about Beerparson, was it here?

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11412

 

[the_bird]

I couldn't find the thread about Beerparson, was it here?

Well, THERE'S your problem.

"BrewPastor"

 

[Beer Weevel]

In California I here tell we can only produce 100 gal per year per each resident of legal age in the household. The way I see it the last gallon I produce was the first of the year!!!!

 

[javedian]

I agree. Technically we cannot make beer, but only create an environment where beer can be made. I dont think a judge would go for a "the yeast did it" arguement...

If the airlock doesn't fit, you must acquit!

 

[Yuri_Rage]

In California I here tell we can only produce 100 gal per year per each resident of legal age in the household. The way I see it the last gallon I produce was the first of the year!!!!

That's the law in most states (or something similar). The way I see it, no one has come by to measure my production...

 

[Torchiest]

If I would do it, then I would give out free beer and encurage donations

Kai

You're merely encouraging others to share the cost of production. No sales involved.

 

[casebrew]

Well, THERE'S your problem.

"BrewPastor"

Well, I at least I had the concept right.

Good thread on the business end of things. Headaches galore, like in any business. And he didnt even touch on employee troubles. But no info on the legalities of whether it would be possible to make a couple bucks on a hobby- sized "home business".

 

[the_bird]

But no info on the legalities of whether it would be possible to make a couple bucks on a hobby- sized "home business".

I think it's pretty clear that you can't unless you get yourself properly licensed. From all accounts, it's not feasible to go through that process unless this becomes a *real* biz, not just selling a random six-pack to your buddies. I'm sure the rules and regs vary by state, but I don't think there's any state where you are allowed to sell a little bit on the side.

 

[Cheesefood]

You can make 100 gallons or beer AND 100 gallons of wine.

Cider, mead, and perry's really don't fall under these rules, do they?

 

[BlackHillsBrewing]

Selling or Homebrewing... looks like we all need to be licensed. Ooops! Maybe that's why there is nobody here from south dakota?

Classification of License Basic Fee Classification of Municipalities
Manufacturer - Malt Beverage $500.00
Wholesaler - Malt Beverage $400.00
Off-Sale - Package Malt Beverage $200.00***
On & Off-sale - Retailer Malt Beverage $300.00***
Off-Sale Malt Beverage & Farm Winery Wine $225.00***
Transfer Fee $150.00***
*** 50% of malt beverage license fees to be retained at local level (50% to be forwarded to the Department of Revenue & Regulation)

Laws of South Dakota

Definition
Examples of Malt Beverage Manufacturers
Malt Beverage Manufacturers
Who Needs a License
Anyone who manufacturers malt beverages within the State of South Dakota.
Laws
The department encourages applicants to review the laws that apply to this license.
Fees
The malt beverage (manufacturer) license fee is $500.00, payable to the South Dakota Department of Revenue & Regulation. No county or city fees apply to this license.
Additional Information
The license limits manufacturers from producing more than 5,000 barrels per year.
Manufacturers may only sell the malt beverages they manufacture unless additional licenses are received from their local governing body.
How to Apply?
The department requires applications to be submitted via regular postal mail with all applicable fees. Address the envelope to:
South Dakota Department of Revenue & Regulation

Attn: Special Taxes

445 East Capitol Avenue

Pierre, SD 57501-3185
Great News, Looks like license is only $500 O

I'm going to research this and get back to you...

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/government-affairs/statutes/south-dakota

Read the next to last paragraph....

And, not sure if you noticed or not, but before your post the last post was over 3 years ago.

 

[StAnthonyB]

Does anyone here sell thier brew or is everyone just producing for themselves, friends and relatives?

A license to sell would be required. The local and state level permits aren't that much of a pain to obtain; really, it's the IRS and ATF that make things more than unneccessarily difficult.

In Massachusetts a farmer-brewer and farmer-vinter permits are cheap money to obtain. I'd say this is only about 1 of 3 things that are actually done correctly in the 'Gay' State. Still, the federal boys are a pain.

 

[lady_brewer]

I love how old threads come back from the dead...

Interestingly enough I asked a friend of the family cop about the laws here, and he said there is no particular limit. I haven't researched it myself, but mostly because nobody cares.