recipe bashing time

[rcng]

Any thoughts on this recipe? My main concerns are the specialty grains, I want to use midnight wheat to get the beer brown to black and i dont mind some roasty flavor. The other specialty grains I can take or leave.

http://hopville.com/recipe/1475788/american-pale-ale-recipes/unknown-name

 

[hepcat]

At first glance, looks like you're going for a brown (style) ale, not a pale ale. And holy crap, seems like it'd be alot easier to condense that hop schedule a bit, lol.

And here's my brown ale recipe I just started two days ago so you can pick on me, lol. Cheers

http://hopville.com/recipe/1534993/american-brown-ale-recipes/brown-bear-ale

Mine looks more like a Guinness, SUPER dark.

 

[cmybeer]

For an APA I typically don't go over 10% on my crystal malts so it will finish out dryer. If I went with that recipe I'd mash low to counter that. Also that is a bunch of hops for an APA, it will be more like a low gravity IPA in terms of bitterness. A 1.45 Bitterness to gravity ratio is pretty high but if you love hoppy beers you should be cool with that.

 

[Carter5112]

Did I read that correctly that you are using 80% Rye Malt extract in this??

 

[gmcapone]

I'm not sure about the specialty grains, but I'd be concerned about the large amounts of Columbus in the recipe for flavoring. It's primarily a bittering hop. I do not have experience with it as a flavoring hop myself, but from what I understand it should be used sparingly as one or else it will likely be too strong and resiny. Of course if you want a very earthy/resiny beer though, go for it!

Looking at Northern Brewer's Rye malt syrup btw, makes me think that the Crystal 60 is unnecessary. It contains 10% Crystal 40 in it so it may be sweet enough already. With 6 lbs of the syrup that's 96 oz which brings you to effectively already having 9.6 oz of Crystal 40 in it. There's no harm in keeping it though. It all depends on what you want.

 

[gmcapone]

Did I read that correctly that you are using 80% Rye Malt extract in this??

I saw that at first too, apparently it is not ALL Rye malt though, it's 70% 2 row, 20% Rye, 10% Crystal 40.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/northern-brewer-rye-malt-syrup.html

 

[rcng]

I'm not necessarily going for a pale ale, more of a low alcohol rye ipa, pale ale seemed to fit for the guidelines of beercalc better.

In reply to the hop schedule, I was planning to continuously hop with those three ounces from the ten minute mark thats why it looks crazy.

Should I get rid of the columbus? I guess I confused it for something else and thought people used it for flavor and aroma. What might yall suggest with the rest of those hops? Or should I just not add those?

 

[bobbrews]

Why are you using WLP090 Super for a low alcohol pale ale?

I would either reduce the IBUs or raise the OG.
74 IBUs at 1.051 OG will be kind of rough.

 

[KeyWestBrewing]

For an APA I typically don't go over 10% on my crystal malts so it will finish out dryer. If I went with that recipe I'd mash low to counter that. Also that is a bunch of hops for an APA, it will be more like a low gravity IPA in terms of bitterness. A 1.45 Bitterness to gravity ratio is pretty high but if you love hoppy beers you should be cool with that.

The latest edition of BYO had an article where they covered this. Your bitterness ratio, according to the article, is in the IIPA range. You should bring it down to about .8 range for a hoppy pale ale. But it is your beer to do as you wish. You can find your ratio by dividing your ibu by your OG.... Example.... 72 ibu / 1.072 = 1:1 ratio or 1.0

 

[corkpuller]

I would cut the boil additions of columbus out and replace it with citra. The centennial will provide a nice backdrop for the bright citra.

Use the columbus as a dry hop for its resiny dankness - but even there, I'd reinforce with more citra.

...I love columbus, but a little goes a long way.

 

[rcng]

http://hopville.com/recipe/1475788/american-ipa-recipes/unknown-name

I have a lot of citra to play around with and was contemplating dry hopping. Should I dry hop with citra and columbus?

 

[wowbeeryum]

i am too noobish to offer any real feedback on the recipe and i've never used citra, but i can vouch that columbus is amazing as a late addition and dry hop. it certainly imparts an earthy/drank flavor and aroma. i paired it with simcoe and the results were fantastic. it has an absolutely delicious hop flavor and aroma without being overly bitter. my schedule actually looks very similar to the one you are proposing (in terms of the timing). the recipe i used: http://hopville.com/recipe/1484675/...umbus---simcoe-ipa---5-gal-2012-06-28-version

 

[rcng]

Well I think I'll be trying the updated recipe on friday.