Random Brewing Thoughts

[coldcrash1]

Going to help a brewery start their foray into sour beer at the end of November. 10bbl of my quick style sour, only thing that sucks is, until they get their other space cleared out and ready we have to do a kettle sour. So doing a low ABV wheat base that I'm going to late hop / dry hop the **** out of. Think gumballheadish base, sour, but very little IBU all hops in the nose. I'll be using my usual Plantarum based lacto blend and his Dupont/French Saison yeast to ferment it out. In my experience you don't get much character pitching saison strains into pre-soured wort. But Saison strains are more hardy and seems to do well at low pH, so I like to use it over US05 or something similar.

So brew, sour, boil, late hop, ferment, dry hop, package.

I know this might divulge into a **** fest, but I want some opinions on naming conventions. What do you call these faster simpler styles to give an idea to a customer but not come off as disingenuous? I would hesitate to call what I described as a Gose or Berliner. Even though those styles seem to be a catch all for american brewers. WE BREWED A 7.5% BLACK GOSE WITH FRUIT PUREE AND VANILLA AND DRY HOPPED IT.

Some of my ideas

• Simple Sour
• Session Sour (session is kind of a gimmick at this point though)
• Quick Sour

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Méthode Kettle?

Just kidding. I can appreciate the desire to avoid terms like Berliner and Gose, which both mean something else.

When I read "Session Sour," I think exactly of the beer you're describing, with or without hop presence.

 

[quirkzoo1]

Some of my ideas

• Simple Sour
• Session Sour (session is kind of a gimmick at this point though)
• Quick Sour

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Méthode Kettle?

This is great. You could also go with:

Vert Gueuze

But seriously

Quick Sour or Kettle Sour are what I have always heard, seems the clearest way to say these beers have not been sitting in a barrel for months.

 

[TripleSixHoppia]

Méthode Kettle?

Méthode de la bouilloire. I could roll with that. LOL

 

[SirDickButts]

I like quick and kettle sour. It's straight to the point.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

Kettle AF

 

[drgarage1]

Quickly soured wheat?

 

[axeman91821]

Just got back from a NJ homebrew competition, had 5/9 beers place, including two first place medals Also managed to snag a Blichmann Beer Gun from the prize table, which is handy since I've been thinking it's about time I replace mine.

 

[Beerontwowheels]

Just got back from a NJ homebrew competition, had 5/9 beers place, including two first place medals Also managed to snag a Blichmann Beer Gun from the prize table, which is handy since I've been thinking it's about time I replace mine.

Congrats, Bill!

 

[axeman91821]

Congrats, Bill!

Thank you sir. I was sitting there with two seconds and a third thinking that awards were over, turned out that two pages were stuck together and I had first place in both categories on the missing page.

 

[FTowne1]

My LHBS is now able to order direct from The Yeast Bay. Looking for saison and/or brett blend recommendations.

 

[ShawDeuce221]

My LHBS is now able to order direct from The Yeast Bay. Looking for saison and/or brett blend recommendations.

I've had very good results with the saison brett blend. One of my favorite beer I've ever brewed: 2 vials with a starter, Belgian pils, spelt malt, fl oats, acid malt, tad of honey in secondary, bitter with warrior, styrian golding at 20. Aged 7 months and then bottled.

 

[ThirstyGator1]

I preferred the farmhouse sour blend to the saison brett blend with a recipe loosely based on Saison Bernice. We did blend a small bit of each into a third fermenter and it was fantastic. I had high hopes in reusing this blend on a later batch but the lacto took over and made an incredibly sour saison. Looking forward to giving both another go in the spring.

 

[Five28 hz]

My LHBS is now able to order direct from The Yeast Bay. Looking for saison and/or brett blend recommendations.

Amalgamation puts out a ton of grape like fruity esters, beersel put out a lot more funk. I got a lot more acetic acid production from the beersel too.

 

[FTowne1]

I got a lot more acetic acid production from the beersel too.

Thanks for the warning.

 

[anteater1]

Why no raspberry ginger sours?

 

[Newmoneyloons]

Anyone know where I can find a pound of 2016 mosaic? or has it not been released yet?

 

[Phischy1]

Ever since the buy out homebrewers have been getting shafted on purchasing hops. it takes months to get certain hops.

 

[SirDickButts]

Ever since the buy out homebrewers have been getting shafted on purchasing hops. it takes months to get certain hops.

word? what kinda hops you're trying to get? came up with a recipe for the IPL?

 

[FTowne1]

Ever since the buy out homebrewers have been getting shafted on purchasing hops. it takes months to get certain hops.

I haven't seen any difference at my local shop, but then again I'm not buying hops by the pound.

 

[docreight1]

Anyone know where I can find a pound of 2016 mosaic? or has it not been released yet?

These folks may be of some help. (http://www.ebay.com/usr/hausotterted) It looks like everything they have on for sale is from 2015 harvest currently; but i imagine they would be a good source of info regarding the 2016 crop. I bought mosaic and cascades from them that were more aromatic & flavorful than anything i have ever been able to get from my lhbs.

 

[Newmoneyloons]

I haven't seen any difference at my local shop, but then again I'm not buying hops by the pound.

My issue with my LHBS is I want to know which year the hops are from to get a idea on flavor profile from that years harvest. Like last year's 2015 mosaic had barely any blueberry character I could pick up from compared to 2014.

These folks may be of some help. (http://www.ebay.com/usr/hausotterted) It looks like everything they have on for sale is from 2015 harvest currently; but i imagine they would be a good source of info regarding the 2016 crop. I bought mosaic and cascades from them that were more aromatic & flavorful than anything i have ever been able to get from my lhbs.

I will keep my eyes on this website as well. Farmhouse brewing supply and yakima valley hops are my go to sources. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Snarf1]

Anyone know where I can find a pound of 2016 mosaic? or has it not been released yet?

I'd imagine most sellers are so choked with 2015 still that they haven't started selling the 16.

 

[WesM631]

I've only seen Yakima valley hops and Farmhouse brewing supply actually advertise they have 2016 crop in stock. Mosaic has not been one of them.

 

[quirkzoo1]

I have heard a lot of love for Idaho 007 from craft brewers. Any homebrewers use them? Thoughts?

I had a beer with them that was a collab between comrade, cannonball creek, and station 26 (all Denver breweries that make great hoppy beers) but there were so many other hops in the mix I wasn't able to really tell what it was bringing to the party in my mouth.

 

[JulianB1]

I am so anxious to get back to brewing. My buddy's garage, where I do all my homebrewing, got absolutely devastated from the flooding that hit SC last month. None of the brewing equipment was damaged but the floors and sections of the walls were ruined. Going to be a month or so until things are fixed up enough to get back into the game.

 

[docreight1]

My issue with my LHBS is I want to know which year the hops are from to get a idea on flavor profile from that years harvest. Like last year's 2015 mosaic had barely any blueberry character I could pick up from compared to 2014.



I will keep my eyes on this website as well. Farmhouse brewing supply and yakima valley hops are my go to sources. Thanks for the heads up.

Just wanted to follow back up with this. I ordered some hops from them earlier in the week and i realized whenever i opened them up on receipt 2/3 varieties i ordered were actually labeled 2016 crop.

 

[liquiddegenerate]

Picked up an emptied today whiskey barrel for my first foray into barrel aging beer.

 

[Ziggy]

Picked up an emptied today whiskey barrel for my first foray into barrel aging beer.

Nice.

How many gallons? Looks like a mini barrel

 

[liquiddegenerate]

Nice.

How many gallons? Looks like a mini barrel

5 gallons. Held rye whiskey for 12 months, first use.

 

[anteater1]

Well I just learned about the alternate, "advanced", ABV formula that is not used by some online calculators...

Turns out so my so called 13% stouts are more like 15%. I feel betrayed. I feel excited. Mostly I just feel excited .

Edit: How did I not know about this? Is anyone else using the advanced formula for high gravity brews?