Pittsburgh/Western PA Group Buy - Round 3

[zcrxt]

The issue is that someone needs a current account with country malts in order to place an order. I am in this one for 7 sacks. Would love to get it moving...

 

[ButcherBoy]

I'm ok with starting over, also ok with finishing this one. All we need is someone to do the organizational work, I hope Dand9066 is ok.

 

[hop_head76]

I believe either Bugman or sleepy was the one with the account already set up that we were able to use last time but I'm not sure what dand did behind the scenes to get this processed on the account. If we can get that worked out I know I'm gonna be in a for quite a few bags and could help with organization. The only issue left outstanding would be money. I know that was a headache for dand with PayPal. So that would be something else we would need to figure out. If there is an easy way to open this back up rather than kill it I'm all for that too. Either way I need grain bad!!

 

[jags0401]

Same here. I need grain baaaad.

 

[brewguyver]

I'll give country malts a call today and check the requirements for opening an account. I can also handle $ collection - just need to figure out how to avoid additional fees from PayPal.

Three requests
- Can someone get a final confirmation that this order is canceled?
- Can someone follow-up with sleepy or bugmen to see if their account can be used again?
- Can I get 1-2 volunteers to manage the order sheet?

 

[hop_head76]

I will have to figure how dand used google docs I'm sure it is not difficult. I can manage the spreadsheet.

 

[jchawk]

The trick to PayPal is you have to send the money as a gift and it has to come out of your bank account otherwise they will charge a fee.

 

[brewguyver]

I will have to figure how dand used google docs I'm sure it is not difficult. I can manage the spreadsheet.

It's pretty easy. I got it set up for my failed group hops buy .

 

[hop_head76]

The trick to PayPal is you have to send the money as a gift and it has to come out of your bank account otherwise they will charge a fee.

I think that is what we did last time with PayPal I would have to read through the last thread to confirm. However we did it last time they froze dands PayPal account and gave him all kinds of b.s. he did send invoices through them too so I'm not sure if that had something to do with it or not. Long story short it was a giant PIA for him and they said he couldn't do it again. Something we will have to figure out.

 

[hop_head76]

It's pretty easy. I got it set up for my failed group hops buy .

I will see what I can get going over the holiday weekend. Hopefully we can get this off the ground!!

 

[jchawk]

I think that is what we did last time with PayPal I would have to read through the last thread to confirm. However we did it last time they froze dands PayPal account and gave him all kinds of b.s. he did send invoices through them too so I'm not sure if that had something to do with it or not. Long story short it was a giant PIA for him and they said he couldn't do it again. Something we will have to figure out.

Why not just calculate the PayPal fee and we'll add to the price? It's fairly minimal and would avoid the disruption/hardships.

 

[hop_head76]

I don't know what the fee is but if its minimal like you say then I'm all for grossing up the payments by the fee. The grain will still still be far cheaper than buying it at the HBS.

 

[ButcherBoy]

Just took a look at the PayPal website, the fees to the seller are 2.9% + $.30 per transaction. I think Dand ran into problems by sending invoices from PP, that made it look to them like he was a vendor selling stuff and they wanted their cut. I don't mind paying the transaction fees ($3.30 on $100 worth of grain), of course if we don't have to pay them... If the invoices were made up on Excel and emailed out, then the money was transferred as a personal payment I wonder if that would flag the PP system to investigate the recipient? Sudden transfers of large amounts from 20 - 30 people might alert their system.

 

[ButcherBoy]

I looked at another group, the York - Lancaster group, they didn't use PayPal. Everyone sent checks to the buyer and the order was placed once the checks were in hand, as long as everyone gets their check in the mail as soon as they get a final price this would work. Looks like it went well for the York group. All it takes is for one person to drag their feet and the order doesn't get placed, but that could happen with PayPal transfers as well.

 

[hop_head76]

Or we give everyone 10 days or something to get their checks in and whoever misses the deadline is out. Maybe a little longer than 10 days but a reasonable amount of time so that feet dragging doesn't happen. Just a thought.

 

[coyote68]

I,ve tried calling dand but still no reply. as for payments on a new buy i'm ok with whatever is decided. i'm really low on grains too

 

[swackattack]

Either way is fine by me

 

[brewguyver]

I got a hold of the country malt folks and will get them the application info back today. I also have the price list. Checks are fine by me, as is PayPal. Let's assume check payment for now, and we can do PayPal (if viable) for folks who don't mind the extra fee.

 

[bja]

I got a hold of the country malt folks and will get them the application info back today.

Do they still require you to have a business in order to set up the account?

 

[brewguyver]

All - here's the info for rebooted grain buy sign up.

Please send an email to [email protected] with the following information...
~First & Last Name
~HBT Username
~Contact Number
~Address
~Payment method (check or PayPal) - Confirm Paypal® address is the same as email using or give your Paypal® Address.

 

[brewguyver]

Do they still require you to have a business in order to set up the account?

Yep - Need a federal EIN.

 

[jags0401]

This may be a bit early in the process. What is the expectation as far as delivery is concerned? After Christmas? After the New Year?

 

[brewguyver]

This may be a bit early in the process. What is the expectation as far as delivery is concerned? After Christmas? After the New Year?

I'll be pessimistic and say after xmas. Shipping is by pallet - if we don't get a break for multiple pallets then I'll pull the trigger as soon as each one is full. I know some folks are thinking "the sooner, the better!"

Edit: that's assuming time it takes to collect orders and payments is 30 days. Will try my best to speed it along.

 

[jags0401]

Ok thanks.

 

[icubrew]

I'm mark and new to this forum. Good friends with hophead. I'll be in for several sacks.

 

[icubrew]

Ok guys, this is gonna sound like an odd request but anyone interested in splittling a sack of flaked maize. Nevermind what I use it for but could sure use a good bit...

 

[jchawk]

Are we good with the account sign up? If needed we can use one of my LLC's which has all the requires registrations that the grain supplier would need.

Please let me know.

 

[Micky5752]

Where will the pickup be? That will determine if it is worthwhile for me to make the trip after the grain.

 

[brewguyver]

Are we good with the account sign up? If needed we can use one of my LLC's which has all the requires registrations that the grain supplier would need.

Please let me know.

JC - thank you for the offer! I have it covered, but I'll let you know if something changes.

Where will the pickup be? That will determine if it is worthwhile for me to make the trip after the grain.

Here's the planned address - I'm in the process of finalizing now.
200 South 22nd St
Pittsburgh, PA 15203

 

[bja]

Ok guys, this is gonna sound like an odd request but anyone interested in splittling a sack of flaked maize. Nevermind what I use it for but could sure use a good bit...

I don't use more than 4-5 lbs of it a year, but if you're using it for what I think you are, it shouldn't take you that long to use a sack of it.