I brewed my first "manual" brew in it last night and I was pleasantly surprised that it is a much different process than brewing with a PicoPak, and is almost exactly like doing a BIAB with a recirculator. I doubt I'll ever buy a PicoPak again (which is fine, I brew so I can brew my own ideas.) I'll use it for test batches and when I hit something good I'll use a full scale setup for 5 gallons of drink.