Peticolas Velvet Hammer Clone

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Guys, I found a thread about this beer and I had a quick question. I have never used sugar while brewing before. How does this work I want to make it this weekend. Do I add the sugar at the last 5 mins of the mash?

5.5 Gallon (7.13g pre-boil)

11.5 lb. Pale Ale Malt (Briess)
2.5 lbs. CaraAmber
1.5 lbs. CaraMalt
5 oz. Extra Dark Crystal (Simpsons; 160L)
1 LB Light Brown Sugar(5 mins)

Mash @ 149

Hops

Boil
1 oz Bravo -60 min=48.3 IBU

.41 oz Chinook-30 min= 12.8 IBU
.41 oz Centennial-30 min= 9.8 IBU
.35 oz Columbus-30 min= 14.3 IBU

1 oz Centennial- Flameout
1 oz Columbus- Flameout
1 oz Chinook- Flameout

Yeast
Appropriate sized starter WY 1098 - British Ale

OG: 1.078----FG 1.011= 8.9%
5.5Gallon/85.2 IBU

 

[Schemy]

No add the sugar to the boil. Generally I add it the last 10-15 minutes of the boil. Just stir it in well.

I dig Velvet Hammer

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

No add the sugar to the boil. Generally I add it the last 10-15 minutes of the boil. Just stir it in well.

I dig Velvet Hammer

Thanks for responding I would of done that wrong!

 

[WhoDatDad78]

Following. Let us know how it turns out. Love some velvet hammer.

 

[EDF713]

Velvet Hammer is dangerous, but awesome. Keep us posted on how this goes, this is hard to find outside of Dallas.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Full disclosure this is not my recipe

I found it in some old threads on this website. I asked the question about the sugar on the thread but I think it is dead and no one responded.

One change I forgot to mention was the cara amber should be cara red to get the color a little bit more on point. But...when a poster tried this recipe already he did a side by side with the real hammer he couldn't tell the difference. So this recipe has already been tried and true.

The original thread had several posters who visited the brewery and asked many questions before this recipe got designed collaboratively. I will be brewing it tomorrow and will still keep everyone posted. But I did not want to take credit for this recipe I didn't create.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

So far so good, its all brewed.

 

[sanitariex]

Considering that Velvet Hammer is by far my favorite beer, I'm watching this thread closely. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. And if you're in Dallas and ever need someone to sample and compare the two, I'm all in.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

For those following, I add a Whirlfloc tab at the 15 min mark and yeast nutrient for good measure since I didn't use a starter. The beer was fermenting crazy the first few days (glad I used a blowoff) and has calmed down. I have high hopes so far it will be tasty.

 

[pshankstar]

Please keep us posted as to how it turns out. I have never heard of this beer but it sounds awesome, it I copied your instructions to try it sometime. Also, how long do you let it sit in the fermenter for? I assume two weeks in the primary and two weeks in the secondary for such a high ABV beer?

 

[zmanzorro]

Please keep us posted as to how it turns out. I have never heard of this beer but it sounds awesome, it I copied your instructions to try it sometime. Also, how long do you let it sit in the fermenter for? I assume two weeks in the primary and two weeks in the secondary for such a high ABV beer?

If you're ever in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, you'll be sure to find it. Probably the best year round beer in the area.

 

[pshankstar]

If you're ever in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, you'll be sure to find it. Probably the best year round beer in the area.

Thanks, good to know!!!! I have a brother in-law (wife's brother) that lives in Willey (I believe I spelled it correctly). I will have to see if he and his wife can bring some out to California for his sister's wedding in July.

Nothing like going to California from New York, to try some Texas beer! LOL

 

[EDF713]

It'll be tricky to bring, Peticolas doesn't can or bottle. Your best bet is a growler fill.

 

[1977Brewer]

Thanks, good to know!!!! I have a brother in-law (wife's brother) that lives in Willey (I believe I spelled it correctly). I will have to see if he and his wife can bring some out to California for his sister's wedding in July.



Nothing like going to California from New York, to try some Texas beer! LOL

Wylie? They'd probably have to get a growler filled in their way to the airport. I can't even do that. No one in either of my Home Counties carries it.

 

[pshankstar]

It'll be tricky to bring, Peticolas doesn't can or bottle. Your best bet is a growler fill.

I guess we will have to make a stop in Dallas on our way back to New York from California. I wonder if my wife would be up for that with a 3 & 6 year old??? Probably not... LOL

On a serious note, well I may have to wait on this one for a bit. Maybe next summer (17) we will go to Dallas to see her brother and his family. Then I can try it!

 

[WhoDatDad78]

It'll be tricky to bring, Peticolas doesn't can or bottle. Your best bet is a growler fill.

X2 there are several growler filling bars in dallas. Taps & Caps in north Carrollton is just off 121 on the way to dfw airport.

 

[pretzelb]

X2 there are several growler filling bars in dallas. Taps & Caps in north Carrollton is just off 121 on the way to dfw airport.

And you can check the kegs available from the website.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Taps and caps has a new location in Denton, also there is a store that sells Peticolas kegs any many..many more called kegs and barrels.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Just tested the gravity and racked it in the keg to cold crash. 1.010 FG. Will know more in about a week once I get it cleared and put on the gas.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Did a side by side and this beer is absolutely spot on. This will be on my rotation.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Here it is

 

[Mordhaus]

Did a side by side and this beer is absolutely spot on. This will be on my rotation.

Good to know. I've been following to see how this turned out. I'm going to give it a shot.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Talked to Chad one of the brewers today he said instead of 5 oz. Extra Dark Crystal (Simpsons; 160L) just use dark. He also said if I need yeast just to come up and get some woohooo.

 

[r4gingm00se]

Guys, I found a thread about this beer and I had a quick question. I have never used sugar while brewing before. How does this work I want to make it this weekend. Do I add the sugar at the last 5 mins of the mash?

5.5 Gallon (7.13g pre-boil)

11.5 lb. Pale Ale Malt (Briess)
2.5 lbs. CaraAmber
1.5 lbs. CaraMalt
5 oz. Extra Dark Crystal (Simpsons; 160L)
1 LB Light Brown Sugar(5 mins)

Mash @ 149

Hops

Boil
1 oz Bravo -60 min=48.3 IBU

.41 oz Chinook-30 min= 12.8 IBU
.41 oz Centennial-30 min= 9.8 IBU
.35 oz Columbus-30 min= 14.3 IBU

1 oz Centennial- Flameout
1 oz Columbus- Flameout
1 oz Chinook- Flameout

Yeast
Appropriate sized starter WY 1098 - British Ale

OG: 1.078----FG 1.011= 8.9%
5.5Gallon/85.2 IBU

I need to revisit this recipe. Instead of wy1098 i used 2 packets of s-04 and i rushed to get it kegged for a club meeting (grain to glass in 8 days). It was very green and medicinal. I've changed the extra dark to just dark and the carared to caraamber and will let it ride out in fermentation much longer next time. Now if we can just get a sit down or ill sit you down recipe going

 

[GingerBeardBrewing]

I know first hand the gentlemen at Peticolas use a Scotch Ale yeast for the majority of their brews.

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

Has anyone else given this clone a try yet?

 

[Mordhaus]

Has anyone else given this clone a try yet?

It's on my list, just haven't had time. Have you done another batch since the first?

 

[TexasDroughtBrewery]

It's on my list, just haven't had time. Have you done another batch since the first?

I haven't but to be fair I haven't brewed the same beer twice ever. I have tooo many on the list.

 

[sanitariex]

I've brewed it following the exact grain bill, swapped a few hops based on what I had on hand, and the consensus was it was one of the best beers I've ever brewed, very similar to Velvet Hammer but with the change in hops a slight variation that made it my own. I loved it and will definitely brew again soon!

 

[raysmithtx]

Gonna add this to my "Beers to Brew" list but have a couple of questions.

Do you reduce the temp for the whirlpool hops below 180 degrees before adding the hops?

How long to you whirlpool?