Parti gyle question

[Phlyborn]

So, my next brew session looks like I may have an extra hand and I like to take advantage of it by having a party gyle session. However, I was planning on making a stout next. The question is what can also be made alongside a stout? Do I make a bigger stout and smaller beer or a bigger beer of some kind and a smaller stout?

Any suggestions?

 

[Rhumbline]

A porter is a good pairing with the stout being the stronger brew. As a matter of fact, I'm bottling my Porter today from my first partigyle brew.

Good luck.

 

[TwistedHops]

Depends how big your mash tun is, but when I partigyled I made an imperial ipa and a session pale.

You could make an imperial stout and maybe a small stout or porter. Alternatively, you could use the partigyle batch and bump up the og with malt extract until you get a normal strength beer!

There's no right or wrong way here, and it's very difficult to predict what the second batch will be (og, style, etc.). But, who cares? Two beers for the price of one!

 

[Phlyborn]

Porter, of course! Cannot believe I didn't think of that.
I have a 50qt mlt. Thanks for the ideas and yes it doesn't really matter what my second beer is. I like the idea of getting two for one and the anticipation of what may turn out. And adding the malt extract is also a good idea.

 

[Rhumbline]

That was my philosophy, it's probably not a perfect Porter but it's five gallons of beer for the price of a pack of yeast.

For the OP, there seem to be two different ways people do this. Some do one huge mash and split the wort, I used the second method of doing a normal mash for my stout and then doing a second mash, reusing the grains, for the Porter.

 

[Hanglow]

Here's one with three gyles

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/lets-brew-wednesday-1890-truman.html

I would probably just do two worts - one strong, one weaker then blend them something like 30/70 and 70/30 get two different strengths of beer.

Just doing an individual beer for the first runnings and a separate beer for just the second can mean the second can be a bit lackluster - not always of course, but I think it's better to do a bit of pre-fermentation blending of the two worts.

 

[TwistedHops]

Just doing an individual beer for the first runnings and a separate beer for just the second can mean the second can be a bit lackluster - not always of course, but I think it's better to do a bit of pre-fermentation blending of the two worts.

This is very true, definitely blend some of the wort, purely second running beers can be a bit thin and lifeless. Maybe malt extract would change that though.

 

[Phlyborn]

That's a good point I haven't thought about with the second beer being thinner.
I don't recall seeing partigyle in beersmith, is there another software option for this method or did I overlook it?

 

[TwistedHops]

Not that I know of, just take your readings on the fly so you can have a ball park idea of the beer you're making.