brumer0
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Sounds like a Douglas Adams quote
OK- Who believes in UFO's?
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could be subconscious - I wasn't specifically referencing the Hitchhiker's guide but I've read them all years ago...'bout time for a re-read!
I do believe that people see things that are unidentifiable. That they are extraterrestrial is highly questionable.
UFOs...
Do I think that humans are the only sentient creatures in the universe? No, that would just be arrogant. Unfortunately we are on the far outer tip of a spiral arm on the Milky Way universe. We are so far away from other stars we would have to have some sort of "preservation device" or be able to fold space. Folding space is much easier on an atomic level than on what we require.
Do I think there may be trans dimensional beings? Possibly but mostly unlikely.
Why is it that aliens only abduct the most remotely located and uneducated people from otherwise "logical choices"?
Do I believe that a stealth weapon (like a bomber) is a stealth weapon if everyone else knows what it is? not so much...
Do I think that humans are the only sentient creatures in the universe? No, that would just be arrogant. Unfortunately we are on the far outer tip of a spiral arm on the Milky Way universe. We are so far away from other stars we would have to have some sort of "preservation device" or be able to fold space. Folding space is much easier on an atomic level than on what we require.
Do I think there may be trans dimensional beings? Possibly but mostly unlikely.
Why is it that aliens only abduct the most remotely located and uneducated people from otherwise "logical choices"?
Do I believe that a stealth weapon (like a bomber) is a stealth weapon if everyone else knows what it is? not so much...
jgln
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Hmmmmm....sound like fishing is a common denominator here for those who claim to have seen them. I belive 4 people here calim to have seen one and 3 were fishing.
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GroosBrewz
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The missing connection between the two is.... drinking beer?
Mmmm... beer.... and aliens..
Seriously though, it just seems like there are too many people that have stories for it all to be a BS. Lot's of videos and stories floating around. I don't think aliens are abducting people, but I think they could be curious onlookers.
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sudsmcgee
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I had a dream as a kid that I was abducted by aliens. It was very vivid and lifelike, to the point that I honestly thought it was real for a while. Today I know it could not be though because I didn't have any rectal soreness or itch. 
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Nibiru is coming, it's the return of the anunnaki get your gold ready boys it's galactic alignment
Saw a UFO while on a fishing trip. Happens all the time.
Fishing and not drinking beer. That has never once happened in the entire history of mankind.
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sudsmcgee said:I had a dream as a kid that I was abducted by aliens. It was very vivid and lifelike, to the point that I honestly thought it was real for a while. Today I know it could not be though because I didn't have any rectal soreness or itch.
I think normally they put the implants on the back of your neck just below the hair line feels like a bug bite
sudsmcgee
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Ha, what's weird is that I really do have a straight cut scar on the back of my neck right below the hairline. Honest to God. Crazy......
sudsmcgee
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Of course, it could just be that one time the barber nicked me with the straight razor.
wolfstar
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Fireballs entering the atmosphere at certain trajectories can appear as you saw. Also, military aircraft can do the same when they kick in the afterburners. Living out in the middle of nowhere in the desert, and spending LOTS of time under the stars with my variuous telescopes (I kind of lose count
how many I have, at least 7 right now ) I have seen a lot of wierd stuff....That being said, I am not saying you did not see a spacecraft piloted by beings from another planet....
Being an avid amature astronomer, and somewhat in the fringe of that group, I have read quite a few books on the subject. Not just testamonials, but also a lot of theory as to the science behind how and why an extraterrestrial race could or would visit this planet.
My answer to your question could be best summed up by the words of Jodie Foster in "Contact"
"I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
Bernie Brewer
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Yes, I believe in UFOs. I also believe in ghosts, though I have never experienced either.
wolfstar
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Why do we send rovers to mars, and probes to moons, astroids, other planets, even beyong our solar system? Voyagers 1 and 2, launched in 1977, are both in the heliosheath at this moment, an area where the solar wind is slowed by the pressure of interstellar gasses. For the record, that is WAY out there, far farther than the farthest protoplanet Pluto. At some point they will transition through the heliopause, and will truly have left the solar system.
Why bring this up about the Voyagers? Becasue they are our primative attempts at remote data collection. More advanced attempts can be seen in the technology seen abord the Mars rovers. The Voyagers are still sending back data 35 YEARS after the initial launch.
A society that has advanced to the point of interstellar travel, may not be sending themselves. One theory is that the "little green men" and the "greys" are biologic automotons. The technology is not as far fetched as it seems, we are now scraping the surface of the ability to create such a device or being or whatever you want to call it.
As far as why would they be interested in us? Same reason we study the world around us perhaps...Our society in general has an innate desire to gain a better understanding of where we fit into the grand scheme of things. We seek explanation, be it through science or, through religion...one way or another we seem to have to "know".
jgln
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Fireballs entering the atmosphere at certain trajectories can appear as you saw. Also, military aircraft can do the same when they kick in the afterburners. Living out in the middle of nowhere in the desert, and spending LOTS of time under the stars with my variuous telescopes (I kind of lose count
That being said, I am not saying you did not see a spacecraft piloted by beings from another planet....
Being an avid amature astronomer, and somewhat in the fringe of that group, I have read quite a few books on the subject. Not just testamonials, but also a lot of theory as to the science behind how and why an extraterrestrial race could or would visit this planet.
That is a big dog...part wolf?
My answer to your question could be best summed up by the words of Jodie Foster in "Contact"
"I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
That is a big dog...part wolf?
(Warning. Bad Poetry)
I believe. But think you guys that also believe have mis-information. The aliens seek homebrewing guidance. This post is a bit lengthy, please keep reading, the end is the best.
Who says aliens do not exist?
And why claim so profoundly?
Why do you resist?
Am I so arrogant?
I can't understand
there might be “beings”
out there
with a different plan?
You have probably noticed,
UFO’s come only at night
otherwise we would see them
in the daylight!
Why would they worry
about us seeing them?
When they could destroy us
just on a whim.
Not sure I’m totally convinced
Been straddling
that jagged a$$ed fence.
Ignorance and pride in our own human race.
Why would they want to come here,
what is the chase?
I look into the night's sky
and see the milky way
a billion stars,
other galaxies farther away!
So who knows if they are real?
But they’ll get a pretty good deal
if they take my advice and
forget the human chase.
and answer their question
about our race.
A quick trip to Walmart is a good start
They’ll say yuks
This planet sucks
Lets get back to our spaceship
And look for a better place.
Maybe KMart!
With better luck
A world which isn’t destroying
Itself with such rancor
They don’t even care
as if there’s nothing the matter!
They are at war with each brother
and don’t respect their planet
Which is our brother
from a different mother.
But, I can see these aliens saying
“For this planet our lives’ might be worth
displaying”
Their homebrew is good!
I’m just saying .
But the UFO guys
stay in their flying saucer
One of them hands out his homebrews
Nobody takes up the offer
So yes in my own opinioned way
Aliens want to come our way
To learn how to brew
They want to be old school
They want to be cool
I do believe they exist.
I believe. But think you guys that also believe have mis-information. The aliens seek homebrewing guidance. This post is a bit lengthy, please keep reading, the end is the best.
Who says aliens do not exist?
And why claim so profoundly?
Why do you resist?
Am I so arrogant?
I can't understand
there might be “beings”
out there
with a different plan?
You have probably noticed,
UFO’s come only at night
otherwise we would see them
in the daylight!
Why would they worry
about us seeing them?
When they could destroy us
just on a whim.
Not sure I’m totally convinced
Been straddling
that jagged a$$ed fence.
Ignorance and pride in our own human race.
Why would they want to come here,
what is the chase?
I look into the night's sky
and see the milky way
a billion stars,
other galaxies farther away!
So who knows if they are real?
But they’ll get a pretty good deal
if they take my advice and
forget the human chase.
and answer their question
about our race.
A quick trip to Walmart is a good start
They’ll say yuks
This planet sucks
Lets get back to our spaceship
And look for a better place.
Maybe KMart!
With better luck
A world which isn’t destroying
Itself with such rancor
They don’t even care
as if there’s nothing the matter!
They are at war with each brother
and don’t respect their planet
Which is our brother
from a different mother.
But, I can see these aliens saying
“For this planet our lives’ might be worth
displaying”
Their homebrew is good!
I’m just saying .
But the UFO guys
stay in their flying saucer
One of them hands out his homebrews
Nobody takes up the offer
So yes in my own opinioned way
Aliens want to come our way
To learn how to brew
They want to be old school
They want to be cool
I do believe they exist.
EoinMag
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I watched a number of spaceships fighting one time, lasers etc shooting and explosions it was cool.
That was some really good acid. (true story)
Apart from that I always suspected it would be true, until http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell Edgar Mitchell came out and said it, all he really did was confirm what I more than suspected was true.
He's not some crackpot conspiracy UFO nut, he's a one time astronaut and knows what he's talking about.
That was some really good acid. (true story)
Apart from that I always suspected it would be true, until http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell Edgar Mitchell came out and said it, all he really did was confirm what I more than suspected was true.
He's not some crackpot conspiracy UFO nut, he's a one time astronaut and knows what he's talking about.
I tend to look at it this way. We have not gained the knowledge yet to answer this question. If we had not found dinosaur bones would you believe me if I told you that before humans ever walked on earth that these huge monsters that looked like giant lizard/alligators roamed around the earth on a huge super continent...
I think aliens probably do exist, the Universe is just to damn big for them not to. We are finding now that most star systems probably have planets. Our knowledge is growing, so the puzzle is coming together.
I heard some mention why would an alien waste the time to visit earth if they had the technology to travel through the cosmos. What if we had that technology and found another planet with life. Would we go check it out?
I think aliens probably do exist, the Universe is just to damn big for them not to. We are finding now that most star systems probably have planets. Our knowledge is growing, so the puzzle is coming together.
I heard some mention why would an alien waste the time to visit earth if they had the technology to travel through the cosmos. What if we had that technology and found another planet with life. Would we go check it out?
EoinMag
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In this hypothetical scenario, am I from the bible belt?
I don't understand the question, but I am from Georgia.
Another hypothetical scenario would be, would it be easy for you to beleive that a 98 foot fish like creature lived in the ocean weighing about 150 Tons and it breathed air through a hole in it's head if you didn't have direct evidence of one.
Stauffbier
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We have the most technologically advanced air force in the world. These aircraft don't just blink into existence - they take years, if not decades to develop them. For example, by the time we first learned about the F-117 stealth fighter in the first Gulf War, that thing had been in development for almost 20 years and flying for years.
They have to test these things. Can't fly them in private because you have to fly them in the sky. They're visible when they're in the sky. Experimental aircraft are pretty spectacular and I bet they get mistaken for weird alien spacecraft.
They have to test these things. Can't fly them in private because you have to fly them in the sky. They're visible when they're in the sky. Experimental aircraft are pretty spectacular and I bet they get mistaken for weird alien spacecraft.
Online Drake Equation calculator. Kinda fun to play with. It becomes obvious that you can get wildly different results with adjusting inputs that we dont understand like "lifetime of a communicating civilization".
http://www.pbs.org/lifebeyondearth/listening/drake.html
I used
R=10, Fp=1, Ne=.1, Fl=1, Fi=.00001, Fc=.3, L=1,000,000
yielding the number of communicating civilizations in the Milky Way as...... 3.
http://www.pbs.org/lifebeyondearth/listening/drake.html
I used
R=10, Fp=1, Ne=.1, Fl=1, Fi=.00001, Fc=.3, L=1,000,000
yielding the number of communicating civilizations in the Milky Way as...... 3.
SharonaZamboni
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Great poem!
My husband and I saw a very strange green light in the sky. It seemed to arc with a trajectory that would have had it landing in a nearby lake. But I haven't heard of anyone else seeing such a thing.
My kids saw weird lights near our house, but I forgot how they described them.
Husband and his uncle also saw strange thing in the sky. While fishing, of course.
My husband and I saw a very strange green light in the sky. It seemed to arc with a trajectory that would have had it landing in a nearby lake. But I haven't heard of anyone else seeing such a thing.
My kids saw weird lights near our house, but I forgot how they described them.
Husband and his uncle also saw strange thing in the sky. While fishing, of course.
Stauffbier
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BrewKnurd
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EoinMag said:
being a one time astronaut does not prohibit you from being a crackpot conspiracy ufo nut.
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