Ok - need help - WTF is a 100 shilling...

[Braufessor]

Got a buddy coming down this weekend - he does some brewing and we get together 2-3 times a year to brew a couple crazy batches of beer - barleywines, Belgian Darks, Sours, RIS, etc. Big beers that take a long time and we split them..... He suggested a 100 Shilling Scottish Ale. I did some looking and did not find much of anything for recipes. Found a couple 90 shilling recipe's - Odell clone, Karl's 90 on NB..... anyone got any info, ideas, links or suggestions...

Thanks

 

[runningweird]

take a 90 shilling and at 10% more malt and hops. 100 shilling.

I'm not shilling you.


a 100 shilling is also known(to me anyway) as a wee heavy which is verging on being a barley wine.

 

[Mongrel]

The recipes in Noonan's Scotch Ale book are for 60/70/80/90/120/140's. The 90 is a 1.075 and the 120's are 1.090's, and the 140 is at 1.100, so for a 100 shilling, I'd scale the grain bill to hit 1.080.

 

[Braufessor]

So...... you are saying it is basically like this:

 

[billl]

It's just made up. It used to mean how much it would cost of a hogshead of that beer. The higher the ABV, the more they charged. Historically, the scale commonly capped out at 90 shilling. But hey, you're a homebrewer. Take a 90 shilling/ Wee Heavy recipe and kick it up a bit.

 

[Mongrel]

It's just made up. It used to mean how much it would cost of a hogshead of that beer.

Almost, Shillings per barrel and Guineas per hogshead including tax.

 

[patto1ro]

It's just made up. It used to mean how much it would cost of a hogshead of that beer. The higher the ABV, the more they charged. Historically, the scale commonly capped out at 90 shilling. But hey, you're a homebrewer. Take a 90 shilling/ Wee Heavy recipe and kick it up a bit.

No, that's not true. 90 shilling is a pretty recent development, dating only from the 20th century.

In the 1920's and 1930's, 90/- was a low-gravity bottled Pale Ale of around 1038º. It's only long after WW II that brewers started to use 90/- to refer to a Strong Ale. Probably no more than the last 40 years.

These are William Younger's Shilling Ales from 1885 and their gravities:

50/-1044
60/- 1052
80/- 1064
100/- 1074
120/- 1086
140/- 1101
160/- 1115

 

[patto1ro]

Almost, Shillings per barrel and Guineas per hogshead including tax.

He was right. It's the wholesale price of a hogshead.

 

[patto1ro]

There's a recipe here for a 120/-:

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.nl/2011/11/lets-brew-wednesday-1868-willaim.html

 

[Braufessor]

Hey -

Thanks for the links and the leads... the information is quite helpful and very interesting. Still not sure what we will be brewing tomorrow - but something to go on now.

 

[RM-MN]

Heck, summer is soon coming, brew a session ale.

 

[Braufessor]

Heck, summer is soon coming, brew a session ale.

Thinking second runnings beer will be session ale..... I have a Mild I am kegging tonight and will have a couple jars of West Yorkshire yeast from that to use.