Oh is nothing sacred?? Hops, Grain and now...
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olllllo said:
But they can start charging for it!
imasickboy
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SHHHH! They might hear you!olllllo said:
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Pizza prices have been climbing for a couple years now based on the rising cost of subsidized dairy product pricefixing. Mozzarella costs have more than doubled, and with this grain price increase, I say it's time to stop paying farmers to not grow things, or pour perfectly good milk down the drain to keep prices up artificially.
Of course I haven't followed my farming family members recent activities in OR and NE, so I may be a little behind in current market manipulation here...
ETA: Don't get too offended by my statements above, they're basically tongue in cheek. I do have family working the land and I really don't mean to insult most farmers.
Of course I haven't followed my farming family members recent activities in OR and NE, so I may be a little behind in current market manipulation here...
ETA: Don't get too offended by my statements above, they're basically tongue in cheek. I do have family working the land and I really don't mean to insult most farmers.
Funny you should bring this up. We just had a lunch with our congressman today at work. I work for a national pizza chain and not only has the price of cheese double but wheat (flour) has tripled. It due to two things. There are a couple of rouge traders manipulating the market and there is no limit to how much wheat can be exported. Since the U.S. dollar is weak right now, most of our grain is being exported.
Do not think that pizza is the only thing that will be affected. Soon the price of a loaf of bread could go to $4. Higher prices on pasta, milk, cheese, bread, and anything with wheat will be hitting your grocery stores very soon. When I talked to the head miller at General Mills to discuss possible grain mixing to reduce flour costs, he told me that there wasn't any grains available. Not that it was high priced, it's just not there.
It is a sad day for America when we will not be able to feed our own due to grain shortages. I urge everyone to do their own research and email their congressmen and senators and encourage them to put a cap on exports.
Yes, the grain shortage will put a damper on brewing but it will also put a huge damper on feeding your family.
Do not think that pizza is the only thing that will be affected. Soon the price of a loaf of bread could go to $4. Higher prices on pasta, milk, cheese, bread, and anything with wheat will be hitting your grocery stores very soon. When I talked to the head miller at General Mills to discuss possible grain mixing to reduce flour costs, he told me that there wasn't any grains available. Not that it was high priced, it's just not there.
It is a sad day for America when we will not be able to feed our own due to grain shortages. I urge everyone to do their own research and email their congressmen and senators and encourage them to put a cap on exports.
Yes, the grain shortage will put a damper on brewing but it will also put a huge damper on feeding your family.
adx
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To top it all off I heard on the radio that they're trying to DCWASA is trying to raise water price by 7%.
I'm just waiting for the price of yeast to go up.
I'm just waiting for the price of yeast to go up.
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arturo7
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Kilted Brewer said:But they can start charging for it!
They started charging for it a long, long, time ago.
Fingers
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We're missing the bigger picture. Chickens eat wheat. Chickens have wings and lay eggs. Therefore the price of hot chicken wings and pickled eggs will skyrocket! Oh, the horror!
zoebisch01
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Lol, Fingers.
Guys batten down the hatches, an economic storm has begun. I honestly believe it is the wind of change that will finally drive the population to stop wasting so many of our vital resources. Everything is affected by the price of that thar crude erl.
Guys batten down the hatches, an economic storm has begun. I honestly believe it is the wind of change that will finally drive the population to stop wasting so many of our vital resources. Everything is affected by the price of that thar crude erl.
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olllllo said:
Naaaw, You have to be having it for it to be taken away. I've been maried for decade so.......
Klainmeister
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Man....i don't like being poor, let alone hungry too!
ohiobrewtus
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That's just freaking wrong, man <shakes head in disgust>...
Oh man, these guys are going to be screwed.
Soulive
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One my local pizzerias has had a sign up for a couple years saying they had to increase the prices. I think they mentioned the Mozzarella prices as being the main reason...
Naidirem
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Quoth:'Well, watching people waddle around, I can't help but think higher food prices could be a good thing.'
I wonder if it wouldn't actually be harmful though. Most of the 'cheap' food available at the supermarket etc. is actually less nutritious for you anyway. Which means the people on the tightest food budgets will buy more crap (not that they weren't already).
I wonder if it wouldn't actually be harmful though. Most of the 'cheap' food available at the supermarket etc. is actually less nutritious for you anyway. Which means the people on the tightest food budgets will buy more crap (not that they weren't already).
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Naidirem said:
That's exactly how I feel. Its not as easy/cheap to eat healthily in this country. I mean I'd save tons of money if I could live on McDonalds, but I can't. I used to work with German interns and they would all gain weight when they came to work here. They were very surprised by the difficulty in finding affordable, healthy food...
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I can't disagree with anything said so far...
My only carbs are in the form of HB.
...and the occasional baked potato...
...and some periodic jalepeno chips...
...and every now and again...some red hot candies...
...then there's the Triscuits...
...and the occasional baked potato...
...and some periodic jalepeno chips...
...and every now and again...some red hot candies...
...then there's the Triscuits...
zoebisch01
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david_42 said:
That and the proliferation of waste.
uglygoat
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olllllo said:
swmbo already has a monopoly on that.....
MikeFlynn74
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Not married are ya.....
The point isn't about overeating, it about average people not being able to afford healthy staples. Bread, milk, and cheese are not luxury items but may become that way. BTW, everything in the food supply chain is connected and all food prices have skyrocketed. With 36 million Americans living below the poverty level, what are they suppose to eat?
rattler_mt
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when my wife worked at the local elevator in 96 the cost of an average bushel of wheat for this area was $5.........................last year this time it was about $5 a bushel...............in 12 years the price of wheat didnt change by enough to notice......right now locally the average bushel is $15 or so though a few guys have the high protein stuff that worth about $18.50.....couple of them are holding out for $20 cause they just want to frame the receipt........cause they have never seen it at $20 a bushel and dont think they ever will again. no local farmer is expecting it to stay high, most are figuring it will drop back down to $5 in a year or two..............personally looking at the other agricultural products that are being tilled under to grow corn for the ethonal, i figure its going to level out to $10 or so a bushel in the next few years........it takes oil to grow wheat, either in diesel to run the machinery to plant, harvest and haul to the elevators..........not to mention the fertilizer and pesticides and herbicides that are made from petroleum.......... the cost of wheat should stay high but i think the current prices are a spike and nothing more........it should level out, granted at higher than the past but i doubt we will be paying $15 for average for to many years.............
Why are you so apologetic for you're ideas? Surely you didn't mean them sarcastically, because they are exactly right. Subsidization of American farming produces inefficiencies that benefit the American farmer at the cost of harming the world market (including us consumers). Also, ideas such as capping the max amount of exports are shortsighted. Econ 101: A cap on exports is the same as a cap on imports (by virtue of the balance of trade, etc). That is, it may reduce the cost of grain, but at the price of hurting importers. Government intervention like that will simply shift the economic pressure. What needs to be done is that we need to face the reality that American farming is horribly inefficient, and a deregulation needs to occur. Tariffs on foreign agriculture need to to be lifted and subsidization of domestic agriculture needs to be put to an end. If this means the end for American farming, so be it. Preserving it simply comes at too high a cost.ma2brew said:
What do you mean they can't take it away? They already did at my house...olllllo said:
Buford
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I don't see it as much as an increase in price/value as much as a dollar being worth less.
Brew Runner
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beala said:
Deregulation is a great idea. They deregulated the power industry and prices went up and continue to do so. No part of the petroleum industry is regulated and you see how that's been going. When it comes down to it, people can survive without petroleum energy, but how about food?
I think that they need to address the issues you mentioned, but without making it a totally free market. Just IMHO.
Judd
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The sex shortage has caused sex prices to go up recently, with no end in sight. As an unmarried 20-year-old, this does not bode well for me.
