dataz722
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Touche'
I really thought it was going to end in a tie. Surprised that the Ravens seemed to stop being so aggressive late in the game, that seemed to let the Pats defense concentrate more on just stopping the run, and... well, they did.
Still kind of wish they let Gostkowski try the 62-yarder....
Yeah, he led with his head. Definitely deserved a flag. Great way to hurt yourself, too. Check out the kid at Rutgers. Led with his head on a tackle and now sits in a hospital unable to move.He went in high, which is a no-no. Bad play. Don't think he meant to HURT Heap, but it looked irresponsible, like he was going for a Rodney Harrison-type highlight play. He went in high, no doubt about that, which makes the helmet-to-helmet his fault regardless of whether Heap spun around in mid-air or not.
So, I don't think it matters. You go in high, that's a dumb football play. He's just as likely to hurt himself in that situation, anyway.
To call it "dirty," though, I think implies that he meant to hurt Heap, and I don't think we can say that. I would call it a dumb, irresponsible play.
Junior Seau drove his SUV off a cliff and landed close to the beach in Carlsbad, Calif., early Monday morning after the former All-Pro linebacker was arrested.
Seau
He escaped major injury.
Seau was arrested on a charge of felony spousal assault with injury, Oceanside, Calif., police reported in a statement. He was booked into the Vista Detention Facility early Monday morning and posted bail after 3 a.m. local time, the watch commander told ESPNLosAngeles.com.
Carlsbad police later responded to a 911 call of a single vehicle off the road and dispatched police and fire personnel. Seau's Cadillac SUV was found on the beach 30 feet below the roadside.
Seau, 41, was the only person in the vehicle and was transported to Scripps La Jolla Hospital. Police said Seau was conscious and and remains hospitalized with minor injuries, including cuts and bruises.
Richard Doan, who answered the phone of a woman who works for Seau's foundation, said Seau is shaken up but appeared to have escaped serious injury.
An investigation into the accident is ongoing.
Seau was arrested around midnight PT after a report was called in around 10 p.m. The victim was his 25-year-old live-in girlfriend, police said in a statement. She told police that Seau assaulted her during a verbal argument. The police said she sustained minor injuries that did not require medical attention.
Seau was not at the residence when police arrived. He later spoke with police by phone and agreed to return to his home. He was arrested without incident when he approached the residence, police said in the statement.
Seau is a 12-time Pro Bowler who played for the Chargers, Dolphins and Patriots. He played in seven games for New England last season.
Seau's arrest and car accident were first reported by TMZ.com.
Ok... SERIOUSLY stepping away from the trash talk for one minute... just wanted to ask about the Meriweather hit on Todd Heap yesterday. I was at the game and they only showed one replay.
It LOOKED like... and I swear (and I know that's gonna be hard to believe given my posts) that I'm not just being a homer here... but... it LOOKED like he lead with his head (which should ABSOLUTELY be a penalty), but that Heap got kinda spun around in the air and that is what caused the helmet to helmet.
It didn't look to me like Meriweather was trying to crush the guys skull or anything... I think he went in with his head but that the helmut to helmut looked kinda accidental.
I'm lookin' for an honest opinion on it since I didn't see it on tv 10 times and the press is rippin' him up for it. Just curious if it was really that bad.
It looked nasty as hell and I will even say dirty. If it was just a one time thing I wouldn't have called it dirty but he tried to do the exact same thing on heap in the end zone about 10 minutes before. On that one though Heap was falling backwards and Meriweather missed and just grazed him. Look at both replays though and it looked like it was intentionally going for the helmet to helmet.
Honestly, I think (not even just this situation) leading with your helmet and making helmet to helmet contact should be an immediate ejection. That can cause some serious injuries to both guys. Fining them isn't going to do ****. They need to be tossed and/or suspended for it.
It looked nasty as hell and I will even say dirty. If it was just a one time thing I wouldn't have called it dirty but he tried to do the exact same thing on heap in the end zone about 10 minutes before. On that one though Heap was falling backwards and Meriweather missed and just grazed him. Look at both replays though and it looked like it was intentionally going for the helmet to helmet.
Honestly, I think (not even just this situation) leading with your helmet and making helmet to helmet contact should be an immediate ejection. That can cause some serious injuries to both guys. Fining them isn't going to do ****. They need to be tossed and/or suspended for it.
That's what Rodney Harrison was saying (of course, he wouldn't have been saying that if he was still playing ).
I agree in principal, but I hate giving the refs that much leeway. It'd basically be like the NBA, where there are personal fouls, Flagrant 1s, and Flagrant 2s. The difference between a "1" and a "2" seemed to mostly be intent, and that's not something that's easy to judge.
Speaking of personal fouls - what the hell was up with that shove that the Ravens running back did late in the game? They were already backed up, but that basically put them in a 3rd-and-forever when they still had a chance to go down the field and kick a field goal. THAT was a dumb play. It wasn't the most vicious shove in the world, but cripes, you've got to be smarter than to just shove a guy right in front of the ref. Just wait until the next scrum and punch him in the nuts, don't push the guy right where EVERYONE see it and you kill your team's chances.
I'd also hope that if the league were to do this, maybe they'd lighten up a little bit on some of the ridiculous amount of protection that QBs get. Not talking hits to the head, but when a defensive player is only a half-step from the QB when the ball is released and makes a clean hit, you see a lot of fouls that really shouldn't BE fouls. Get rid of the dirty stuff, get rid of the helmet-to-helmet, have very low tolerance for that but otherwise let them play.
Incidentally, read an article once that made a fairly compelling argument that the best way to reduce head injuries in football.... get rid of the helmets. Look at sports like rugby, which are just as violent but where there are not as many head injuries despite no helmets, because the players know that they can't lead with their damn head! Football helmets lend an unwarranted sense of invincibility.
LoL. I cant take anyone with an avatar like that seriously.
It should be noted that the Patriots are AGAIN on track for an 18-1 season.
Incidentally, read an article once that made a fairly compelling argument that the best way to reduce head injuries in football.... get rid of the helmets. Look at sports like rugby, which are just as violent but where there are not as many head injuries despite no helmets, because the players know that they can't lead with their damn head! Football helmets lend an unwarranted sense of invincibility.
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