• Please visit and share your knowledge at our sister communities:
  • If you have not, please join our official Homebrewing Facebook Group!

    Homebrewing Facebook Group

Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

Homebrew Talk

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Green Bay's performance has gone downhill since week one. They lost to KC who is last in their division. Maybe 2 weeks off will put rodgers back in the swing of things and have that team playing better. However, offense wins games, defense wins championships. Saints have a solid offense and a beastly defense. Assuming they both play each other. Green Bay is the team everyone it's jumping on the bandwagon for, I'm not so sure they'll be that great come play off time
 
We interrupt your obnoxious trash talking for a moment to bring you a true story about Aaron Rodgers. I got it in an email, and being the cynical type, didn't believe it at first. but I looked it up, and sure enough, it is in a blog by Jen Lada of Fox 6 News in Milwaukee:

Save me A Spot


WITI-TV, MILWAUKEE —

This job affords me some incredible opportunities. Being a member of the FOX6 Sports team means I've been able to witness and report on events and people that many can only admire from a distance. I never take these situations for granted and sincerely appreciate being involved in whatever capacity each permits.

Monday marked just the most recent case as I had the unparalleled privilege to be a part of Aaron Rodgers charity event to benefit the MACC Fund.

The MACC Fund is one of those incomparable organizations that has the curse of being perpetually under-appreciated. This is by no fault of the dedicated individuals involved with this amazing organization. Simply put, the MACC Fund can never be appreciated enough for the tireless efforts its employees and associates are making to help eradicate childhood cancer and blood disorders.

Scattered throughout the crowd of rabid Packers aficionados were the people who I consider the event's real MVPs. They are the families who've been forced to deal with one of life's toughest sentences - the loss of a child. My interactions with these folks have always been touching, fulfilling and enlightening. Once, a family friend and the father of a teenage girl who passed away after a lengthy battle with the disease told me something that really resonated. Yes, his daughter's death was hard - an excruciating pain that can not be completely comprehended by anyone who's never been in that situation. But he also revealed that his daughter's memory didn't have to be the tragic tale of another countless cancer victim. Instead her legacy was much more joyful - as she was represented by all of the MACC Fund's survivors. The hundreds of thousands of other children who benefited from the research and findings his daughter's passing allowed. It was an unbelievably considerate and profound perspective in the midst of an otherwise heart-wrenching ordeal.

Those who sprung for the tickets were not disappointed. In a world where many athletes regurgitate canned and rehearsed responses, the Packers quarterback was refreshingly candid. Aaron addressed a number of topics with in-depth, honest reaction - even some that if reprinted and mass distributed might raise some eyebrows. Personally, I think a lot of the comments made should remain exclusive to those who made the effort to attend and support the MACC Fund's incredible cause but here are a few highlights/revelations:

Aaron stressed the importance of availability and accountability. In his opinion, it is a player's responsibility to attend all of the team activities as they are all intended to better the team as a whole. And then, similarly, he addressed the importance of taking the heat/criticism when one falls short of expectations and duties.

He is never nervous to take the field. Aaron is supremely confident in the preparation he's put in during the week leading up to Sunday's match up. The way the 2009 season ended was disappointing but his self-confidence was not affected by the outcome. One of the toughest realizations was that that combination of players would never take the field together again. He likened the team to a family and admitted that conflict can and does occasionally exist but they try to handle such situations with maturity and civility.

He talked music and his love for tunes at a young age revealing that his mom used to sing and play lullabies and country music when he was a child. Aaron's record label Suspended Sunrise is a product of this passion but also a contingency plan for life after football. His favorite song is Ben Harper's 'Forever' and he's envious of John Mayer's guitar skills though not his tabloid reputation. He appreciated my affinity for Keith Urban but gave the audience a thumbs-down when I mentioned fellow country crooner Kenny Chesney.

He commented on his recent foray into the Twittersphere (@AaronRodgers12) - how he originally thought the social networking site was "stupid" but now he appreciates its role in communicating with his fans - where the message is less likely to be misconstrued or misquoted.

His favorite book is The Bible and he tries to read it every day not just when life's challenges and struggles surface. His favorite movie is The Princess Bride which he admits he's caught flack for but says he and his childhood friends can recite every line from the film and it is simply a great story.

Rodgers' answers and poise on this night were certainly admirable. And I honestly didn't think I could respect Aaron more than I did when we wrapped our hour-long question and answer segment. But I was wrong.


My friend, the father of that young girl who passed, was there that night - enjoying the opportunity to reconnect with many of his MACC Fund family members and revel in the charity's big night. He was one of several attendees brought up on stage where he caught a football thrown by the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. The evening was already a smashing success for him and his grateful family.

And then he asked Aaron to sign the football he'd caught. He wondered if he'd make it out to his daughter. It isn't shocking that Rodgers obliged. What caught me off guard was the dedication he made. It wasn't until after Aaron left that I first saw the autograph... and the simple yet sweet message that brought tears to this father's eyes: "To Cheri the angel. Save me a spot. - Aaron Rodgers"

I hope that Packers fans realize how lucky they are to have such an upstanding young man leading their team on the field every weekend. I hope they acknowledge the challenges that were thrust upon him and appreciate the maturity with which he handled them. I hope they stand behind the kid and respect him not only for his incredible talent but for his intelligence and honesty, poise and compassion.

My job has afforded me the chance to watch Aaron Rodgers play football for the last few seasons. But I am truly thankful for the opportunity to see the other side of this impressive young man. And pass on some of what I witnessed to you.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled trash-talking.....carry on.
 
everyone seems to be discounting san fran but they are the only team in the nfc with a formidable defense they very well could be a spoiler.
 
both teams would have to play in that kind of weather and that would favor the team that can run the ball. which the pack and the saints have not been the best at.

I have been following this thread but have been avoiding stepping in on what looks on its face like "the Green Bay Packers Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread" (and I have to say I deeply admire the fact that there are so many homebrewers in Packers country; LHBS must be as common as Starbucks for the rest of us :) ).

I personally think the dome/non-dome thing is blown out of proportion; people looking to denigrate every record not set by their team. I have seen posts/blogs in other places where people crunched the numbers to make the comparison, not just with Drew Brees, and there just isn't anything in it beyond the difference between playing at home or away. Of course playing in a blizzard can't help but affect everyone. The thing about the Saints offense that is going to make them especially hard to slow down is that they are very well balanced. People obviously lose track of their running game among all of the passing records but they are ranked 6th in running offense (and with that, set the record for total combined yards in a season). That's going to give them an edge in weather conditions that cause the throwing game to suffer (and it will affect both teams). And on the defensive end they have given up lots of yards, but are ranked 13th in points allowed. Not horribly impressive but still quite a bit better than Green Bay or New England. Still, as a life-long Saints fan, I have seen the Saints beat themselves entirely too often for comfort.
 
"the Green Bay Packers Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread" (and I have to say I deeply admire the fact that there are so many homebrewers in Packers country; LHBS must be as common as Starbucks for the rest of us :) ).

Ha... You are right about one thing, it is a particular team's obnoxious thread, they even start with a P. It's not the Packers though.
 
I agree on the elements not playing as much of a role as it's played up. It can be a small piece of it but its still much more about home vs. away. I just wanted to post that cool pic.

Giants and Atlanta in (I'm too lazy to look it up) playoff years proved that false in GB. And I think both were really cold games. But if I recall, those were also those epic Favre being the "gun slinger" to the DB's as well. Should be a great playoff this year.
 
Pffft. Please. That's all you guys talk about. Packers.. Packers.. Packers.. Aaron Rodgers heals the sick amd walks on water... Blah blah blah.

It's sickening
 
I personally think the dome/non-dome thing is blown out of proportion; people looking to denigrate every record not set by their team. I have seen posts/blogs in other places where people crunched the numbers to make the comparison, not just with Drew Brees, and there just isn't anything in it beyond the difference between playing at home or away. Of course playing in a blizzard can't help but affect everyone. The thing about the Saints offense that is going to make them especially hard to slow down is that they are very well balanced. People obviously lose track of their running game among all of the passing records but they are ranked 6th in running offense (and with that, set the record for total combined yards in a season). That's going to give them an edge in weather conditions that cause the throwing game to suffer (and it will affect both teams). And on the defensive end they have given up lots of yards, but are ranked 13th in points allowed. Not horribly impressive but still quite a bit better than Green Bay or New England. Still, as a life-long Saints fan, I have seen the Saints beat themselves entirely too often for comfort.


This is why the MVP debate should be Rodgers/Brady, not Rodgers/Brees.

Brees is a great quarterback, no doubt, but look at the team around him. I know that there are deep, deep flaws embedded in both New England and Green Bay. Neither can play D worth a ****, so they NEED to rely on their offense (specifically QB play) week after week after week. Neither is a great running team, New England's marginally better but it's not consistent.

Rodgers has brought a team of offensive weapons and a horrible defense to a 15-1 record.

Brady has brought a team of mostly scrappy offensive players (plus Gronk), and an equally horrible D, to a 13-3 record (and eight straight wins).

Brees; he set some passing records (barely ahead of the other two), but he's got such a better team around him. His degree of difficulty wasn't nearly as high.
 
everyone seems to be discounting san fran but they are the only team in the nfc with a formidable defense they very well could be a spoiler.

This...

Yes they could. But does Alex answer the call?

Yet to be seen, but Jim Harbaugh seems to have a talent for talking to him and calming him down and getting him to produce.

My hopes are up. :)
 
Cape Brewing said:
Wow... That was SUPER gay. (bernie's epic novel about sick kids).

Daaaaaamn.

It was just posted to show that not all athletes on WI teams are 'roid- inflated asshats. And that Rodgers has more class than most.
 
the_bird said:
This is why the MVP debate should be Rodgers/Brady, not Rodgers/Brees.

Brees is a great quarterback, no doubt, but look at the team around him. I know that there are deep, deep flaws embedded in both New England and Green Bay. Neither can play D worth a ****, so they NEED to rely on their offense (specifically QB play) week after week after week. Neither is a great running team, New England's marginally better but it's not consistent.

Rodgers has brought a team of offensive weapons and a horrible defense to a 15-1 record.

Brady has brought a team of mostly scrappy offensive players (plus Gronk), and an equally horrible D, to a 13-3 record (and eight straight wins).

Brees; he set some passing records (barely ahead of the other two), but he's got such a better team around him. His degree of difficulty wasn't nearly as high.

Actually I will be surprised to see Rodgers get the MVP. I would think that voters would point to the game that Flynn had and think that GB could have done just as well or almost as well without Rodgers. The MVP is supposed to be about a players relative value to his team, and Flynn demonstrated that GB might have been able to weather the storm had Rodgers gotten hurt. That says more about the team rather than the player.
 
Actually I will be surprised to see Rodgers get the MVP. I would think that voters would point to the game that Flynn had and think that GB could have done just as well or almost as well without Rodgers. The MVP is supposed to be about a players relative value to his team, and Flynn demonstrated that GB might have been able to weather the storm had Rodgers gotten hurt. That says more about the team rather than the player.

I actually think that says a lot about Rodgers, that from all accounts he's helped Flynn get better as a QB (unlike the previous ass-clown).

From what you can gather, Brady's been pretty supportive/helpful to Brian Hoyer, his backup (who's also a damn good QB).

Peyton Manning, I think you've got to put it down as a flaw that he's never really been a guy who's really worked hard to get the guy behind him better. I think that's one of the reasons that Indy sucked so horribly this year; Painter's a terrible QB, but he wasn't ready to QB (so they panicked and went to Kerry Collins). That falls on the coaching staff, and but I think also on the starting guy. Part of the players job on the team is to help out his understudy.

So, for me, Flynn's performance makes the argument for Rodgers as MVP stronger, not weaker.
 
This is why the MVP debate should be Rodgers/Brady, not Rodgers/Brees.

Brees is a great quarterback, no doubt, but look at the team around him. I know that there are deep, deep flaws embedded in both New England and Green Bay. Neither can play D worth a ****, so they NEED to rely on their offense (specifically QB play) week after week after week. Neither is a great running team, New England's marginally better but it's not consistent.

Rodgers has brought a team of offensive weapons and a horrible defense to a 15-1 record.

Brady has brought a team of mostly scrappy offensive players (plus Gronk), and an equally horrible D, to a 13-3 record (and eight straight wins).

Brees; he set some passing records (barely ahead of the other two), but he's got such a better team around him. His degree of difficulty wasn't nearly as high.

brady's a cheater.

also they cheated their way into the easiest schedule in the history of the NFL. 8 straight wins against high school teams.
 
This is why the MVP debate should be Rodgers/Brady, not Rodgers/Brees.
.....
Brees; he set some passing records (barely ahead of the other two), but he's got such a better team around him. His degree of difficulty wasn't nearly as high.

I agree 100%. People tend to see the MVP award as a "best player" award (it doesn't help that the press has elevated it to the top for newsworthiness). I like to think that the Saints wouldn't quite fall apart to the degree that Indianapolis has should Brees get injured. I would give it to Rodgers or Brady, although Flynn's success with the GB 2nd stringers does lessen the view of how important Rodgers is to the success of the team (although it is now being reported that Rodgers was calling in the plays for Flynn from the sideline, at least while they were in their hurry-up offense).
 
although it is now being reported that Rodgers was calling in the plays for Flynn from the sideline, at least while they were in their hurry-up offense).


Yes he was- sort of. He was on the mike relaying what he saw from the defense, but Flynn called the plays. That was done more to keep Rodgers mentally in the game than to help out Flynn. McCarthy wanted to keep Rodgers as sharp as he could without actually playing him.
 
Yes he was- sort of. He was on the mike relaying what he saw from the defense, but Flynn called the plays. That was done more to keep Rodgers mentally in the game than to help out Flynn. McCarthy wanted to keep Rodgers as sharp as he could without actually playing him.

Makes sense. I'm sure it did help Flynn's development. Getting a chance to compare what he was seeing against what Rodgers was seeing must have been a great experience.
 
the_bird said:
Dunnright, good to see you! Thought you might have shot yourself when they brought back Norv.

Haven't had much to trash talk about this season.

And I was actually hoping they would bring Norv back, at least for one more chance. He does play a good game plan and usually adjusts well when needed. His time management sucks, but they players LOVE him. I would have thought different if if had lost the locker room.

But I have to say, I was surprised they brought him back. I was really hoping that the GM would be gone, but then the HC would have to go then too.

Oh well, nothing more to say about my team.

GO [insert whatever team is playing against the cheatriots] !!!!!
 
bluemoose said:
Patriots won't be playing this weekend. They are a good enough team to get a bye, so SUCK IT!

My chant was merely to be addressed to any and all upcoming games that your rule-bending, high school schedule playing "team" will have sneaked into. Including, but not limited to the one playoff game that they will lose this year and into the future, unless they are playing the raiders.
 
Rodgers will be MVP and anyone who thinks differently is stupid :). A lot of what bird stated is repeated here:

Matt Flynn Doing Aaron Rodgers a Favor? Why His Success Shows Rodgers Is the MVP | Bleacher Report

Guy is still a homer but all valid commentary.

Another reason I suspect is some of those that vote will want to further poke at Favre for being such an arse and making them constantly talk about his drama for 5 years. I know I would.

Rodgers should be the MVP, but nothing from The Bleacher Report is valid commentary.
 
Ah-ha!!! So you admit that most of the Packers ARE.... In your words, "'roid inflated asshats". Its about time a Packer fan finally admitted the truth!!

That's a foregone conclusion. It's added to the cheese that does not get exported outside the state. Ever see the size of the WI Badger offensive line?
 
Ah-ha!!! So you admit that most of the Packers ARE.... In your words, "'roid inflated asshats". Its about time a Packer fan finally admitted the truth!!


Not quite. I admitted that there is one Packer and one Brewer that have been accused. That hardly constitutes "most". And I am still waiting for the final verdict in both cases.
 
eh, after his team was caught and convicted of cheating, he's still in the "blame" stage of grief. people dumb enough to live in boston are, well...pretty dumb. and they don't move thru the stages that easily.

it's ok cape, let it out. we're here for you.
 
Rodgers will win the MVP, because it's a popularity contest. To say Brees has it "easy" because of the team around him is foolish. The weapons for the top 3 are very similar.
If the Pack lost Rogers, Flynn could step right in and do well. Who is Brees' backup? They would be in way deeper doo doo if he went down.

He is hands down the most important player to his team.

_
 
Back
Top