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these regulators do not actually have a volumetric flowmeter in them, they have simply been calibrated to select a certain psi which, during their normal usage of unrestricted flow of gas out the feed tube, will result in the selected lpm shown on the selector knob.
I haven't figured out what they use in the small medical 'flow meters'. I'm guessing either a needle valve with preset detents (like used with a Thorpe tube, but set at the factory), or a fixed orifice with a variable backpressure. Either way, or even if it's a different way, I doubt the ~2psi downstream backpressure affects the rate much, since the upstream pressure is likely 60psi or greater. I can't see them getting accurate/precise single digit psi changes with a diaphragm that small. That said, the Thorpe tubes are a much more accurate meter when dealing with variable downstream pressures. If someone combines a Thorpe tube flow meter with one of the cheap medial flow meters with/without a stone attached, we would know for sure how much downstream backpressure affects them.

One thing about injecting the O2- the bulk of the diffusion happens at the surface (provided the flow is high enough). From memory, it is ~90% compared to the diffusion that occurs as the bubbles rise. There are limits and variables, of course, but the basic guidelines are to have a moderate patch of bubbles breaking the surface. As long as the currents aren't so violent as to collapse the bubbles in the stream (as mentioned earlier), but enough to cause some turnover, the premise holds.

I would have to search for the paper, but it was an involved study related to aerating settling ponds (yes, ponds of poo). The critical factor was the 'skin effect' as the bubbles popped on the surface. Smaller bubbles were still better than larger ones.
 
thanks CWI. after thinking about your assessment of med cylinders and the backpressure being overwhelmed, i'm inclined to agree with you.

very interesting about the O2 bubble physics. there's alot about gas/liquid interfaces that's counterintuitive. if you ever dig up that paper, please fwd.
 
This is a great thread full of excellent info.

Thought you might be interested in this calculation: If you dissolve all of the oxygen from one pint of air at STP into 5 gallons of wort the O2 concentration will be 8 ppm. I did the calculation because I was wondering if there was really a significant amount of oxygen in the small headspace of a full carboy. Of course you can't get 100% of the oxygen to go into solution, but it gives you a starting place for a thought experiment. If you purge the headspace with pure O2, seal it up with a solid stopper, and wait long enough the concentration will be well over the required 8 ppm. Shaking with a pure oxygen headspace would get you there a lot faster.

I have an oxygen system, but haven't used it yet. My best fermentations so far have been aerated by draining cooled wort slowly into the carboy while rocking it continously. Shaking the full carboy is too hard to do effectively, but when it is only 1/3 full you can really get some foam going. I spend about 10 minutes transfering/shaking and the wort has about 4 inches of foam on it when I'm done. You can get a violent sloshing action going in a partally filled carboy when the you get the rhythm right and it only takes a tiny rocking motion.

On the other hand, if shooting in a little oxygen means that I don't need to make a starter then it is a big time saver. Can't wait to try it.
 
On the other hand, if shooting in a little oxygen means that I don't need to make a starter then it is a big time saver.

It doesn't mean that you don't need to make a starter. You should still observe proper pitching rates.
 
I show a picture of the setup I use here:

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/o2-flow-meter-216614/#post4440476

Without a true flow meter, I think your data will be too noisy. I'm thinking about getting an O2 meter too and would like to figure out a Mr Malty type calculator that would let you plug in the Volume of Wort, Gravity, Temperature, desired ppm and flow rate and it would tell you how long to Oxygenate.

To the OP, do you still like the meter you have? Would you recommend it?
 
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