Nothing that can kill you can grow in your beer...

[revolutioned]

Could have been any number of the things you mentioned, or a combination of all of them. Consult your doctor about it. I say that, because I sometimes show threads to my friends with very bad and dangerous info. I'm just saying

 

[ajlee]

Sometime people just get sick... Wouldn't worry too much.

 

[Draken]

Noro virus is running rampant in the lower east of the US. Same symptoms along with extremely rapid onset. I know you are across the pond, but something like noro spreads so quickly among people it wouldn't surprise me if it caught a flight with a business traveler and started going round the uk.

 

[broadbill]

Noro virus is running rampant in the lower east of the US. Same symptoms along with extremely rapid onset. I know you are across the pond, but something like noro spreads so quickly among people it wouldn't surprise me if it caught a flight with a business traveler and started going round the uk.

Not only that, people continue to shed norovirus long after they have recovered from the acute symptoms of it. My son picked it up from daycare and managed to infect another 7-8 people long after he stopped having symptoms.

 

[Revvy]

NOTHING PATHOGENIC CAN GROW IN BEER!!!

You can't get sick from beer PERIOD, old, new, or ancient...It doesn't matter. Nothing that can live in fermented beverages can harm you period....No food poisoning or anything.

The whole history of beer, wine, mead and cider/Fermentation is general is that nothing pathogenic can exist in them They were consumed in places where the water could kill you, or make you sick.

Even slightly fermented beverages were consumed, even by children. Hard ciders were drunk like we drink bottled water.

Why do you think the Catholic Church chose wine as the basis of their sacrament? Because wine was more important to the culture of the desert where Christianity came from than water. Water safe, drinkable water was rare. So wine was the safer, common beverage of the day.

We've covered everything even with some citations in this thread. Dangers of Homebrewing

And some more info here as well.

It covers all the bugaboos that new brewers wanna fear, mycotoxins, e-coli, zombies....

 

[Cambone]

I believe that particular beer is supposed to look like that. It uses bacteria (such as Lactobacillus) that looks really nasty, but results in a desired flavor.

BINGO!

mtk, Broaden you beer palette. Sour beer is very tasty, and in my opinion very approachable. My non-craft beer drinking gf enjoyed Rodenbach very much, a sour beer from Belgium.

Yeast look nasty too, don't fear the fuzz.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Im sorry but i couldnt drink something that looked like that. I know what your thinking how you think it looks at the micro brew? Yeah i know i try not to think about it. Is it really supposed to look like that? and why?

Listen to me very carefully. Could it be food? SURE! I have had it from food before not very fun. COuld it be the dogs? I doubt it! Could it be from garden dirt? HELL YES! (green manure maybe?) COuld it be from homebrew YOU BET! If anyone thinks for one minute beer cant get jacked up brother you gotta another comming! My grandfather drank a "bad beer" once and he was sitting in dark for days ill! Listen when it doubt throw it out! Why risk it? If its fuzz then no buzz. If it has hair dont you dare! Hope ya get well soon!

really, no offense man, but are you scared of everything you haven't seen before? it really seems that you have very little knowledge of the things you tend to post here on HBT. do you know what a soured beer is? many folks intentionally pitch bacteria and wild yeast that causes all sorts of fuzzies to grow on the beer. and the beer won't make you sick. in fact, it's quite enjoyable.

NOTHING PATHOGENIC CAN GROW IN BEER!!!

You can't get sick from beer PERIOD, old, new, or ancient...It doesn't matter. Nothing that can live in fermented beverages can harm you period....No food poisoning or anything.

The whole history of beer, wine, mead and cider/Fermentation is general is that nothing pathogenic can exist in them They were consumed in places where the water could kill you, or make you sick.

Even slightly fermented beverages were consumed, even by children. Hard ciders were drunk like we drink bottled water.

Why do you think the Catholic Church chose wine as the basis of their sacrament? Because wine was more important to the culture of the desert where Christianity came from than water. Water safe, drinkable water was rare. So wine was the safer, common beverage of the day.

We've covered everything even with some citations in this thread. Dangers of Homebrewing

And some more info here as well.

It covers all the bugaboos that new brewers wanna fear, mycotoxins, e-coli, zombies....

'nuff said. didn't you recently drink some fairly old bottles of beer you came across and survive, Revvy? i also think i remember seeing a thread with a guy talking about drinking a beer that was over 100 years old. i think if beer could make you sick (other than if you drink way too much), one of you two guys would've mentioned that when talking about drinking old beers.

OP, it was either a coincidental stomach bug you caught, or the pizza got ya sick. or maybe even the dags or gardening, but that's unlikely too, i do a lot of garden/yard work and i horse around with my dag all the time and have never gotten sick from it. my guess, at this time of year, doing some work out in the chill, damp weather brought ya down and a stomach virus took hold. seems the obvious answer here.
that or the next trend in flu epidemics is a beer borne ultraretronanozombie virus from Saturn, bound to end all humanity. til next year.

 

[jump_xiii]

It was totally out of the blue. I haven't taken a sick day from work since 2005 and that wasn't cos I was sick- I hated my super and couldn't be fekked that day. If I'm honest I can't remember the last time I was genuinely sick so I couldn't work. If saturday night had been Sunday night no way I coulda dragged myself in to work. I don't get sick. This was serious. I've been hearing people round here saying that "oh my friend had that a week ago" and stuff. By Monday I was fine, just exhausted from not eating/ dehydration.

I've been playing poker tonight and sunk 2 pints of my brew... Tum seems pretty satisfied- I'll keep you posted. Looking forward to reading the posts Revvy linked to.

Maybe the cause was "none of the above"

 

[homebrewdad]

What are yall talking about? You would drink beer with fuzz on it? I was talking mold here. I dont eat bread that is green either call me crazy!

Bread that has mold on it might taste nasty... but it won't hurt you. I take it that you are unaware that bread mold = penicillin in many cases? Many cheeses are molded intentionally before you ever buy them.

 

[Cambone]

Ignorant men don't know what good they hold in their hands until they've flung it away.

-Sophocles

 

[two_one_seven]

For the last two days I enjoyed a 15 year old Barley wine, found 2 bottles of my wedding batch......mmmm mmmm good. Don't sweat it.

 

[Revvy]

For the last two days I enjoyed a 15 year old Barley wine, found 2 bottles of my wedding batch......mmmm mmmm good. Don't sweat it.

Oh WOw!!!!! Awesome!

 

[brushvalleybrewer]

Anyone else had similar experiences at all?

Yes.

Shellfish.

On my honeymoon.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

For the last two days I enjoyed a 15 year old Barley wine, found 2 bottles of my wedding batch......mmmm mmmm good. Don't sweat it.

nice find! bet that's an enjoyable beer.

 

[mtk6006]

WTh is with everbody riding my a$$ so hard? I asked more questions but nobopdy saw that! Next time you wanna rip me a new one at least send a roll or toliet paper so i can wipe my a$$ when yall are finished!

Next yes i am afraid of 4 things germs! spiders! and the dentist! heights!

Why do you all read into everything i type? I play the varible card if something that day i came in contact with first i bath dogs then i stay out of garden incase green manure (dont think i have to explain this) or really wash up before touching anything stay away from pizza! (Same thing happened to me and i couldnt eat pizza for years! or jello)

If i wanted my a$$hole the size of a kitchen sink drain i would go see proctologist and let him play star wars with his camera do hickey. Hell cut me some slack damn!

 

[mtk6006]

AND wanna know why these convos go into $hit storm status? B/c all ya have to do is explain something not give me the 3rd degree and treat me like a 3 year old! Im 31 years old why dont ya teach me something instead of treating me like a child. I like details. Teach me dont stone me to death.

 

[JoeyChopps]

Haha

 

[sudsmcgee]

NOTHING PATHOGENIC CAN GROW IN BEER!!!

You can't get sick from beer PERIOD, old, new, or ancient...It doesn't matter. Nothing that can live in fermented beverages can harm you period....No food poisoning or anything.

The whole history of beer, wine, mead and cider/Fermentation is general is that nothing pathogenic can exist in them They were consumed in places where the water could kill you, or make you sick.

Even slightly fermented beverages were consumed, even by children. Hard ciders were drunk like we drink bottled water.

Why do you think the Catholic Church chose wine as the basis of their sacrament? Because wine was more important to the culture of the desert where Christianity came from than water. Water safe, drinkable water was rare. So wine was the safer, common beverage of the day.

We've covered everything even with some citations in this thread. Dangers of Homebrewing

And some more info here as well.

It covers all the bugaboos that new brewers wanna fear, mycotoxins, e-coli, zombies....

I read this over and over again, and I agree that nothing can GROW in beer, but that doesn't mean something can't BE in beer. Example, a corny keg that was previously used to spray week killer could transfer some of that to a beer if it's not cleaned properly.

Once again, I know what you're saying, but you CAN get deathly ill from drinking a tainted beer. It's just that the tainting won't grow in the beer.

 

[mtk6006]

@ revvy. You going to assure me that nothing pathogenic can grow in beer? Without a doubt your going to PROMISE me? Im going to start brewing some "fancier" brews soon but if they put me on the toliet with the squirts for days. Well thats gonna suck! I need to know why pathogens wont grow on beer. Then i might feel more comfortable about drinking something that looks like alien slime

 

[sudsmcgee]

@ revvy. You going to assure me that nothing pathogenic can grow in beer? Without a doubt your going to PROMISE me? Im going to start brewing some "fancier" brews soon but if they put me on the toliet with the squirts for days. Well thats gonna suck! I need to know why pathogens wont grow on beer. Then i might feel more comfortable about drinking something that looks like alien slime

Well, again, the operative word is GROW. Not BE.

And regarding assurances, it's ancient history, so all you need to do is look for it.

Alcohol kills microbes. Do you question an alcohol swab's effectiveness before getting an injection?

 

[hoppymonkey]

@ revvy. You going to assure me that nothing pathogenic can grow in beer? Without a doubt your going to PROMISE me? Im going to start brewing some "fancier" brews soon but if they put me on the toliet with the squirts for days. Well thats gonna suck! I need to know why pathogens wont grow on beer. Then i might feel more comfortable about drinking something that looks like alien slime

The acidity and alcohol both prevent nasties from growing in your favorite beverage.

 

[Stauffbier]

Send me the beer, and I'll let you know if that was it :fro:

 

[BigPoppa502]

I vote the pizza was the culprit.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Why do you all read into everything i type?

because you're posting it on a public forum for all to read if they like.

just saying'.




and c'mon guys, what's with all the pizza bashing? i mean, i know it's not the best food for ya, but where are all you guys getting your pizza from, a chinese pizza takeout joint an earlier poster mentioned? it'd have to be some raunchy 'za to explode from both ends.

 

[sudsmcgee]

Pizza makes my man parts bigger. I think......

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Pizza makes my man parts bigger. I think......

see, i knew i wasn't the only one. i've been saying this for years and no one believes me.

 

[homebrewdad]

WTh is with everbody riding my a$$ so hard? I asked more questions but nobopdy saw that! Next time you wanna rip me a new one at least send a roll or toliet paper so i can wipe my a$$ when yall are finished!

Next yes i am afraid of 4 things germs! spiders! and the dentist! heights!

Why do you all read into everything i type? I play the varible card if something that day i came in contact with first i bath dogs then i stay out of garden incase green manure (dont think i have to explain this) or really wash up before touching anything stay away from pizza! (Same thing happened to me and i couldnt eat pizza for years! or jello)

If i wanted my a$$hole the size of a kitchen sink drain i would go see proctologist and let him play star wars with his camera do hickey. Hell cut me some slack damn!

Was somebody riding you? You posted on an open forum and people tried to point out facts to you. I didn't see anyone insulting your intelligence, just folks trying to help you understand.

 

[BigPoppa502]

where are all you guys getting your pizza from, a chinese pizza takeout joint an earlier poster mentioned? it'd have to be some raunchy 'za to explode from both ends.

it wasn't Gino's in Chi-town :rockin:

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

The reasons are threefold;

pH: Pathogens are adapted to be most effective at a pH of 7.4 which is part of the human condition. The ~pH of beer is usually around 4.0. Now, remember, pH is not linear. It is logarithmic base 10 so a 3.4 linear change is actually something more like 3.4 thousand times more acidic than pathogens are comfortable with.

Alcohol: Alcohols kill bacteria by first making the lipids that are part of the outer protective cell membrane of each bacterium cell more soluble in water so that the cell membrane begins to lose its structural integrity and fall apart. As the cell membrane disintegrates, alcohol can then enter the cell and denature proteins within each bacterium.

Hops: The essential oils are acidic and the chlorophyl is toxic.

Now shaddup and go brew some alien slime.

 

[firebirdude]

As for the pizza- it made me feel sick just thinking about the 2 slices sitting in the fridge and I struggled just picking it up to throw it in the trash...

Every single time I've had food poisoning, my mind/stomach just seems to "know" what caused it. The thought of it makes me sick.

One time I was eating various finger foods at a small local party. 4am rolls around and "it's" happening. I was 100% positive it was the chicken wings I ate.

Another time it was a coldcut sandwhich I bought at a local mom&pop shop for lunch. By 10pm, "it" was nasty. I had eaten dinner since then, but I'm positive it was the sandwhich.

Your body just knows man. It's animal instinct.