New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Braufessor]

Brau, what yeast you like for your Saisons? I have a request for brewing a Peach saison using our local central Texas peaches.

I have only been brewing Saisons more regularly over the last 1-2 years..... so, take my opinions for what they are worth. So far, the yeast I have used multiple times that I have liked is the Yeast Bay Saison Blend...... just a nice, straight forward saison..... Also, unlike some others I have used - no banana esters (which I dislike).
http://www.theyeastbay.com/brewers-yeast-products/saison-blend-i

Just bottled a saison where I used the Mad Fermentationist Saison Blend from Bootleg Biology. I really liked this one a lot and just bought a couple more packs in their recent resale for it. Looking forward to trying a couple more saisons with it.
https://bootlegbiology.com/product/the-mad-fermentationist-saison-blend/

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I have only been brewing Saisons more regularly over the last 1-2 years..... so, take my opinions for what they are worth. So far, the yeast I have used multiple times that I have liked is the Yeast Bay Saison Blend...... just a nice, straight forward saison..... Also, unlike some others I have used - no banana esters (which I dislike).
http://www.theyeastbay.com/brewers-yeast-products/saison-blend-i

Just bottled a saison where I used the Mad Fermentationist Saison Blend from Bootleg Biology. I really liked this one a lot and just bought a couple more packs in their recent resale for it. Looking forward to trying a couple more saisons with it.
https://bootlegbiology.com/product/the-mad-fermentationist-saison-blend/

Thanks for the information! +1 on the anti banana.

 

[popquizkid]

Thank you.
I was nervous I'd clog the racking cane filter with so many hops in the fermenter and then mess up trying to eliminate o2 by having to take things apart (I push with co2). 6 oz in 2.5 gallons could cause some trouble. But I agree with you. In the beers I hop less, I only do it once. And I keg hop so the yeast is clean that I harvest from primary. This batch I didn't care about harvesting yeast.

I have only been brewing Saisons more regularly over the last 1-2 years..... so, take my opinions for what they are worth. So far, the yeast I have used multiple times that I have liked is the Yeast Bay Saison Blend...... just a nice, straight forward saison..... Also, unlike some others I have used - no banana esters (which I dislike).
http://www.theyeastbay.com/brewers-yeast-products/saison-blend-i

Just bottled a saison where I used the Mad Fermentationist Saison Blend from Bootleg Biology. I really liked this one a lot and just bought a couple more packs in their recent resale for it. Looking forward to trying a couple more saisons with it.
https://bootlegbiology.com/product/the-mad-fermentationist-saison-blend/

Not to derail the thread - but I also just grabbed a pack of the mad fermentationist saison blend. Excited to try it. Since your NEIPA recipe is such a winner curious what type of saison you would recommend making with this blend?

 

[Braufessor]

Not to derail the thread - but I also just grabbed a pack of the mad fermentationist saison blend. Excited to try it. Since your NEIPA recipe is such a winner curious what type of saison you would recommend making with this blend?

Here is a thread on the blend. I posted the recipe I used in post #47. There are other good insights on the thread too. Mine was pretty high hopped - which probably prevented the lacto from doing anything at all in it. It was still super nice at bottling though.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=621126

The next go around I am going to brew a couple similar batches - however, I am going to leave the hops out and keep it very low IBU (3-5). I will move one batch to a keg and let it sit until 4-6 weeks, then dry hop and bottle, and I will likely leave one batch alone - very low IBU and just bottle it up as a plain saison. I will collect yeast from some of these and I think I might then try a dark saison of some sort (low IBU) and then put some of it on cherries from the trees in our back yard.

If yo want the lacto to come through though, you have to go very low IBU - possibly dry hopping late after the lacto has had a chance to do its thing.

 

[Oldskewl]

I would love to give that blend a try. Recently brewed a saison using WY3726 Farmhouse Ale yeast. Although it is still a good beer, it doesn't have the funk I was hoping for even though I gradually raised temps to 85 deg over 10 days or so. I am just SCARED to take the leap into brett/lacto beers and contaminating my equipment.

 

[Braufessor]

I am just SCARED to take the leap into brett/lacto beers and contaminating my equipment.

I think some of this is over reactive..... that said, I do have some separate buckets and kegs I work with and use consistently for any brett type stuff.

Brett and lacto (and all kinds of other nastier things) are all around us, all the time. Our equipment is constantly exposed to these things. That is why we sanitize. Honestly, I think careful cleaning and sanitizing would probably be more than enough. Good sanitation practice ought to take care of any concerns. If a person's sanitation practices are not good enough to clean/sanitize what they use for brett or lacto they pitched..... those practices are probably not good enough for all kinds of naturally occurring brett, lacto and others.

One thing I do that is a bit different with these beers..... After fermentation, using kegs, etc. I do hit the fermenters/kegs with both iodophor and star san after cleaning. Between the two, they ought to kill about everything.

 

[Oldskewl]

Thanks for the reality check! What do you use to ferment your Brett batches? I use a SS Brewbucket exclusively, but used my bottling bucket on your suggestion to brew an IPA that I had the opportunity to brew before my saison was finished. Just wondering if a plastic bucket should be the last choice for a Brett beer?

 

[Braufessor]

Thanks for the reality check! What do you use to ferment your Brett batches? I use a SS Brewbucket exclusively, but used my bottling bucket on your suggestion to brew an IPA that I had the opportunity to brew before my saison was finished. Just wondering if a plastic bucket should be the last choice for a Brett beer?

I suppose it is probably not ideal. For the most part, what I have been doing a lot is that I have mainly fermented with a saison yeast and then added Brett C at bottling - right in the bottles.

Or, I have done the first 2 weeks in bottling bucket and transferred it to a 5 gallon keg for secondary.

I bottle all my Saisons in heavy 750ml bottles and either carb them by adding Brett. at bottling to a beer that has not totally fermented out and the Brett will carb them Or, I add priming sugar to 3 volumes. I just think these beers do really well in bottles - plus, often times they might not be at their best for 3-6 months and so it is an easier way to put them aside for longer.

I do all my bottling with a beer gun - even if I am bottling an uncarbonated beer and priming..... I still do it from a 5 gallon keg with a beer gun - just easier. So, I am generally not leaving any of these beers in a bucket for much longer than the first 2-3 weeks.

Letting one sit for 2-3 months in plastic might not end up being a good idea.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Jazzed! Picked up simcoe, citra, and mosaic Cryo Hops. So Saison put off for now. Brewing tonight using 1318. From what I've read, 7 days fermentation (diacetyl rest), 6hrs hops and bottle. Only one addition needed as these are 2x the Lupulin potency as I understand.

 

[mintyice]

I have 2 NEIPAs on tap! One is a lighter cucumber pale ale type NEIPA which is really cool and the other is an Alien Churchish clone that drinks more like a thicker Trilliumish double IPA. Really tasty but it's about 8%! :O

 

[tomchukj]

Ready just in time for daughters bday party this weekend.... if it lasts that long. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1499901917.796037.jpg

 

[braindead]

Fermenting away nicely.
Have all you guys been dry hopping in the corny keg as recommended by Braufessor. Just don't fancy cutting a dip tube down to fir my hop filter tube in.
Would there be issues if I did the 2nd dry hop in my primary carboy?

 

[Braufessor]

Fermenting away nicely.
Have all you guys been dry hopping in the corny keg as recommended by Braufessor. Just don't fancy cutting a dip tube down to fir my hop filter tube in.
Would there be issues if I did the 2nd dry hop in my primary carboy?

I have been putting all dry hop in primary recently. Works just fine. Just need to be a little bit more careful when it comes time to transfer to keg in order to not transfer too much gunk. I also get a clogged post at first from time to time doing this..... but, a few minutes of taking post off and cleaning and it is just fine.

 

[braindead]

Amount of hops floating on the top of my brew in the carboy after first dry hop is insane.

My dry hopper spider is Size: Approx. 18cm x 7cm / 11in x 2.7in
Would there be enough room in here for the final 85 G of hops you think, or be too compacted?

 

[Braufessor]

Amount of hops floating on the top of my brew in the carboy after first dry hop is insane.
My dry hopper spider is Size: Approx. 18cm x 7cm / 11in x 2.7in

Would there be enough room in here for the final 85 G of hops you think>?

Hard to say. I throw all mine in loose. I don't us a carboy though - generally I use a SS brew bucket and that as kind of a cone shaped bottom. They settle out to the bottom pretty well for me.

 

[braindead]

Hard to say. I throw all mine in loose. I don't us a carboy though - generally I use a SS brew bucket and that as kind of a cone shaped bottom. They settle out to the bottom pretty well for me.

Yeah I spotted your pic of your brew bucket setup. Rather jealous.

 

[hezagenius]

@Braufessor

Do you pressure transfer out of your BrewBucket? I'm on the fence about buying one but I want to make sure if does pressure transfers without problems.

 

[stickyfinger]

if u can do like a 12 hr cold crash, You will literally have no problem with clogging the IN QD on the keg

 

[tjosborne]

@Braufessor

Do you pressure transfer out of your BrewBucket? I'm on the fence about buying one but I want to make sure if does pressure transfers without problems.

Check out post 3836. He has a pretty cool setup for pressure transfer.

 

[Braufessor]

@Braufessor

Do you pressure transfer out of your BrewBucket? I'm on the fence about buying one but I want to make sure if does pressure transfers without problems.

No..... I don't. For these beers, I just do gravity through tubing into the bottom of a CO2 purged keg. and then repurge the head space really well after the transfer.

Other people construct set ups to do this though and it looks like there are a variety of ways to pull it off successfully.

 

[lasultana]

I have been putting all dry hop in primary recently. Works just fine. Just need to be a little bit more careful when it comes time to transfer to keg in order to not transfer too much gunk. I also get a clogged post at first from time to time doing this..... but, a few minutes of taking post off and cleaning and it is just fine.

Do you do a one-step or two-step (i.e. on day 2-3 and on day 7) dry hop now?

 

[Braufessor]

I can't say that I exclusively do either. I would say that recently, more often, I have been doing a single 6 ounce dry hop between day 2-4. I do have a recent batch where I did 2x 3ounces...... 3 at day 3 or so and 3 more around day 8 or 9.

I have not noticed a huge or significant difference personally.

I will say that a single dry hop early does allow more time for the hops to settle out and probably reduces the amount that gets transferred to the keg - so that is a plus.

 

[weskarl]

@Braufessor

Do you pressure transfer out of your BrewBucket? I'm on the fence about buying one but I want to make sure if does pressure transfers without problems.

I do out of mine - found it a lot easier with the 90 degree hose barb, just enough pressure fill the volume from the beer being transferred. V low pressure -- no need to over come the hydrostatic pressure of the vessel like doing a closed transfer from a carboy.

 

[paco313]

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One of the best IPA I ever brew, mosaic, galaxy and citra waiting for the second dry hop, kegging this in 3 days

 

[Braufessor]

Couple new hop combos that I tried recently and have on tap now - turned out very well:

6 ounces in single flame out after chilling started, 6 ounces in single dry hop -

** 2:2:2 ratio Centennial, Cascade, Summit..... this one surprised me, but it was really pretty good.

** 2:2:1:1 ratio of Citra:Mosaic:Galaxy: Centennial..... VERY good. Really liked this one

** 2:2:2 ratio of Citra: Mosaic: Simcoe - really good as well.

Also - the Centennial:Cascade:Summitt, blended 50/50 with either of the other two is really great as well. Just some food for thought.

Recent Amber version of this I did was really good I thought ...... I will post full recipe when I get a chance. Should be a really good fall beer.

 

[Jmash]

Ive been doing the Citra Mosaic Simcoe quite a bit trying to nail down the Julius taste. Great combo

 

[Braufessor]

Getting ready to fire up the brew kettle and just got this in the mail...... I am thinking today is going to be a better than average Monday.

 

[Hannabrew]

That's a nice haul!

 

[Jmash]

I've tried them all but rising tide. Mettle and Fort Point and Scaled Up are my favorites. Not a fan of Castle Island. You got the Mettle and Fort Point just in time. They're out of cans

 

[marjen]

Well since I have been having issues the last month since getting some new gear and increasing batch size, I had to break down and make a NE IPA run over the weekend. So I am well stocked to deal with the issue until I get my brewing back on track.

I see me and Braufessor have similar tastes!