New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Ulisses4677]

How did these end up turning out? Which one did you prefer?

I’m really curious as I was thinking of doing CTZ and Idaho 7 on the hot side with Galaxy and Necatron on the cold side.

Just watched your video on YouTube @ secret level .

 

[Dgallo]

Just watched your video on YouTube @ secret level .

@secretlevel

 

[Dgallo]

@Dgallo - Do you have a recent recipe that includes weights and timing for your hop additions? I know they vary based on hop varietal and recipe, but your beers look great and I'd like to see what your current recipe looks like.

I typically just give ratios so it allows people to scale the recipe to their batch size. But If it’s helpful I’ll give you the oz/gallon too.

This would be a Dbl IPA (8.2-8.8%)
Grains;
70% -2row or pils
20% - spelt
10% -malted oats

Hop schedule
15 ibus during boil - usually 20 addition of Columbus

Whirlpool at 1oz/gallon @160*f
2:1 strata to citra - Since I’d be roughly at 6.75 gallon (aim for 6 in fermenter) it be
4.5oz strata
2.25oz citra

Dryhop at 2-2.5oz/gallon after droping the yeast and at 56*f for 36-48 hours;
1:1:1 ratio of Citra t90 to Citra LUPOMAX to strata;
4.5 oz Citra t90
4.5oz Citra LUPOMAX
4.5oz strata

***this recipe would expect absolute care and attention to anti-o2 practices***

 

[secretlevel]

I finally got around to brewing up @Noob_Brewer CTZ/Galaxy beer! Excited to see how it comes out.
It's a bit of a departure from your recipe from the grain bill and the hop amounts, but it should roughly have the same vibes.

6ish gal batch split two ways.

Whirlpool
CTZ 4oz
Galaxy 2oz
Nectaron 2oz
Citra Incognito 10mg (last minute addition to the hop bill)

Dry Hop for Galaxy brew:
1oz CTZ Lupomax
4oz Galaxy

Dry Hop for Nectaron brew:
1oz CTZ Lupomax
4oz Nectaron

Galaxy actually smelled really good, but this is after I brewed with a bad batch that was super hop burny. YVH sent me an extra pound and guaranteed that this is a better batch.

Will report back in a few weeks on how I like Nectaron and how this CTZ combo comes out

Ok, I've been exposed through YouTube and the secret is out haha. Here's a TL;DR

First of all, @Noob_Brewer thanks for the CTZ/Galaxy idea, it's an amazing combo! Really happy with both beers, CTZ works as a great base for these super fruity hops. I can't discern CTZ as dank, spicy or herbal, it just boosts the other hops. Also my description above isn't the final amounts, I ended up using 1oz of CTZ Lupomax and 5oz of either Nectaron or Galaxy, for a total of 2oz/gal. I also threw in 10g of Citra Incognito

Galaxy batch
Overripe mango and passionfruit aroma. Predominantly overripe mango and ripe pineapple flavor, followed by the classic white gummy bear vibe. As the beer warmed up and I kept drinking it, there was a slight onion vibe, but overall I was surprised how much I liked it! No hop burn at all which was awesome.

Nectaron batch
Intense peach and cantaloupe aroma. Major stonefruit and green cantaloupe, with a tiny bit of NZ diesel. Nectaron wasn't as explosive an in-your-face as Galaxy, but it did have pretty nice qualities that reminded me of Nelson or even a slightly more subtle Citra. I'd definitely always pair it with others rather than on its own.

It was close, but I definitely dig Nectaron more. It's much more easy-going and tropical with a hint of diesel, which I personally love. Having said that, I'm sharing these with a couple of friends in the next few weeks so we'll see what they say!

PS. Shameless YouTube plug of the brewday + tasting.
Galaxy / Nectaron

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Ok, I've been exposed through YouTube and the secret is out haha. Here's a TL;DR

First of all, @Noob_Brewer thanks for the CTZ/Galaxy idea, it's an amazing combo! Really happy with both beers, CTZ works as a great base for these super fruity hops. I can't discern CTZ as dank, spicy or herbal, it just boosts the other hops. Also my description above isn't the final amounts, I ended up using 1oz of CTZ Lupomax and 5oz of either Nectaron or Galaxy, for a total of 2oz/gal. I also threw in 10g of Citra Incognito

Galaxy batch
Overripe mango and passionfruit aroma. Predominantly overripe mango and ripe pineapple flavor, followed by the classic white gummy bear vibe. As the beer warmed up and I kept drinking it, there was a slight onion vibe, but overall I was surprised how much I liked it! No hop burn at all which was awesome.

Nectaron batch
Intense peach and cantaloupe aroma. Major stonefruit and green cantaloupe, with a tiny bit of NZ diesel. Nectaron wasn't as explosive an in-your-face as Galaxy, but it did have pretty nice qualities that reminded me of Nelson or even a slightly more subtle Citra. I'd definitely always pair it with others rather than on its own.

It was close, but I definitely dig Nectaron more. It's much more easy-going and tropical with a hint of diesel, which I personally love. Having said that, I'm sharing these with a couple of friends in the next few weeks so we'll see what they say!

PS. Shameless YouTube plug of the brewday + tasting.
Galaxy / Nectaron

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thanks for the shout out man. Yes, I agree that Columbus is a wonderful hop for these hazies that add an element of depth to the other more fruity hops for sure. I watched your video and agree that nectaron indeed have a small element of the "NZ Diesel" but its restrained and awesome. Need to revisit my nectaron/nelson combo which I loved that also included Waimea on the hotside and a splash of citra on hot and coldsides. Cheers!

 

[Ulisses4677]

Enigma Galaxy double ipa
73% gambrinus pils
16% spelt
11% malted oats.
About to transfer to serving keg.
I really like this beer. I brewed this with a friend that wants to learn how to homebrew.

 

[agentbud]

so what does spelt bring to the party for a hazy IPA?

 

[Dgallo]

so what does spelt bring to the party for a hazy IPA?

Small branch chain protiens. It’s a rustic wheat. So it benefits mouthfeel, head retention, and body, all while having strong fermentability

 

[ccbeer]

Done quite a few Citra Mosaic Eldorado and Citra Mosaic and Galaxy. Don't have access to every hop out there and was thinking of these combinations but was wondering what people though. No boil additions, WP and then Dry Hop only.

WP: Citra Eldorado
DH: Citra Eldorado Strata

WP: Citra Eldorado
DH: Citra Eldorado Strata Rakau

WP: Citra Eldorado
DH: Citra Eldorado Strata Mosaic

WP: Citra Eldorado
DH: Citra Eldorado Mosaic , NZH-107

 

[secretlevel]

Enigma Galaxy double ipa
73% gambrinus pils
16% spelt
11% malted oats.
About to transfer to serving keg.
I really like this beer. I brewed this with a friend that wants to learn how to homebrew.

Way to spread the good word of homebrewed NEIPA! How would you describe the flavors from this beer? Is it pretty Galaxy-dominated with white gummy bears/pineapple or does Enigma throw a bunch of berries or white grapes in there?

 

[Ulisses4677]

Way to spread the good word of homebrewed NEIPA! How would you describe the flavors from this beer? Is it pretty Galaxy-dominated with white gummy bears/pineapple or does Enigma throw a bunch of berries or white grapes in there?

Enigma dominates the flavor profile for sure. It has a white grape with a slight diesel dank very similar to Nelson sauvin. It’s still very fresh so I can’t wait to see how it matures in the next few days.

 

[Dgallo]

Enigma dominates the flavor profile for sure. It has a white grape with a slight diesel dank very similar to Nelson sauvin. It’s still very fresh so I can’t wait to see how it matures in the next few days.

I like enigma. My lots weren’t anything like Nelson though. Def would be interested in working with the lot you have. My lot was definitely earthy red beery. very hard to describe. I really like it

 

[Ulisses4677]

I like enigma. My lots weren’t anything like Nelson though. Def would be interested in working with the lot you have. My lot was definitely earthy red beery. very hard to describe. I really like it

I purchased mine from hop alliance. I feel like they have better prices than Yakima valley.I know what you mean with the berry flavor, very complex but super delicious.

 

[jturman35]

I don’t post as much here anymore but still one of my favorite threads for info.This beer is still holding up very well after 3 months in the keg. Strata/Galaxy/Cashmere and spelt malt. Cheers to all the help of you guys to make some awesome beer!

 

[Mjpetrag]

Recently stopped back into to Tired Hands for a couple 4 packs of hazy IPAs. they keep getting better. I actually prefer their beers over places like fidens, treehouse, etc.

The one thing I notice with their hazies is that the hop aroma and flavor is unique to them. It is very fruit/tropical fruit forward, little to no green/dank flavors. Most recently I noticed it in the “refreshing ipa”.

I’m not sure what they are doing differently from everyone else but it stands out to me at least. Wanted to know if anyone had thoughts on that.

 

[Dgallo]

Recently stopped back into to Tired Hands for a couple 4 packs of hazy IPAs. they keep getting better. I actually prefer their beers over places like fidens, treehouse, etc.

The one thing I notice with their hazies is that the hop aroma and flavor is unique to them. It is very fruit/tropical fruit forward, little to no green/dank flavors. Most recently I noticed it in the “refreshing ipa”.

I’m not sure what they are doing differently from everyone else but it stands out to me at least. Wanted to know if anyone had thoughts on that.

We had some tired hands around lately Alien church and this one. Alien church was priced at $28.99 for a single ipa so I passed on that and then this one I did have I was very unimpressed by. Very generic and nothing popped at all and more floral for the main character.

Granted I only have a 1 beer perception of them but that 1 beer wasn’t close to fiden’s IMO (I haven’t had a good treehouse beer in a year or so, their it quality is way down in my opinion). I’d be willing to trade for some fresh tired hands though

 

[Dgallo]

@Mjpetrag they are most likely using a lot of hop products like spectrum and incognito and not to much t90. Some people/brewers really like the clean, single character of those products alot. I don’t mind them but prefer when they heavy t90 and t45 pellets are used in conjunction.

 

[Ulisses4677]

We had some tired hands around lately Alien church and this one. Alien church was priced at $28.99 for a single ipa so I passed on that and then this one I did have I was very unimpressed by. Very generic and nothing popped at all and more floral for the main character.

Granted I only have a 1 beer perception of them but that 1 beer wasn’t close to fiden’s IMO (I haven’t had a good treehouse beer in a year or so, their it quality is way down in my opinion). I’d be willing to trade for some fresh tired hands thoughView attachment 813890

What’s the average price for a single can of fidens? I usually buy from resale at a much higher cost.

 

[Dgallo]

What’s the average price for a single can of fidens? I usually buy from resale at a much higher cost.

Singles are $5, doubles $5.5, and triples $6

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

When tired hands first opened I really enjoyed their stuff. The last beer I had from them was a bit of a let down. Can't recall what it was unfortunately it was a while ago. I'll have to give them another try though.

I have a sorta kitchen sink neipa in the fermenter now I hope to keg next weekend. I had some random stuff I wanted to use up, so I threw in some golden promise, and used some torrified wheat instead of white wheat. Hopped with simcoe citra and galaxy.

Curious to see how it turns out.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Singles are $5, doubles $5.5, and triples $6

Pounders?

 

[Mjpetrag]

We had some tired hands around lately Alien church and this one. Alien church was priced at $28.99 for a single ipa so I passed on that and then this one I did have I was very unimpressed by. Very generic and nothing popped at all and more floral for the main character.

Granted I only have a 1 beer perception of them but that 1 beer wasn’t close to fiden’s IMO (I haven’t had a good treehouse beer in a year or so, their it quality is way down in my opinion). I’d be willing to trade for some fresh tired hands thoughView attachment 813890

That is disappointing. Eviscerated pathway of beauty is one of their best beers in my opinion, might have been a bad batch. I have been buying cans fresh direct at their brewery though so maybe that is playing into it a bit.

I have some incognito I bought a few months ago and haven’t gotten around to using it. In your experience, how does a beer made with pellets along with incognito taste compared to one with just pellets?

 

[Dgallo]

Pounders?

What do you mean?

 

[Dgallo]

That is disappointing. Eviscerated pathway of beauty is one of their best beers in my opinion, might have been a bad batch. I have been buying cans fresh direct at their brewery though so maybe that is playing into it a bit.

I have some incognito I bought a few months ago and haven’t gotten around to using it. In your experience, how does a beer made with pellets along with incognito taste compared to one with just pellets?

I’ll have to try to get some fresh ones from trading to see because I’ve heard some great things about tired hands and was a little stunned when I had that one.

the incognito is good but it’s very one dimensional in flavor. So by blending it with t90 you get some more complexity and nuance flavors. I personally love t90 beers though. I typically use t90 hotside and then anywhere from 30/70 - 50/50 LUPOMAX(or cryo)/t90 in the dryhop

 

[CascadesBrewer]

What do you mean?

I assume 16 liquid oz = almost 16 oz = 1 lb = "pounders". 16 oz cans seems to be the standard these days.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

What do you mean?

16 oz cans ... vs 12 oz cans.

 

[Dgallo]

16 oz cans ... vs 12 oz cans.

Gotcha. Yeah all 16 oz cans. Sorry I don’t think I hear pounders before lol

 

[Ulisses4677]

Gotcha. Yeah all 16 oz cans. Sorry I don’t think I hear pounders before lol

I’ll be heading to southern call here in 2 weeks. I can get electric brewing co, north park, green cheek , monkish. @ Dgallo interested in any of these breweries to trade for fidens?

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Gotcha. Yeah all 16 oz cans. Sorry I don’t think I hear pounders before lol

That's pretty reasonable to me, I mean 5 bucks for a quality "pounder" yeah I'll take it in a can over a 5 dollar pour of some of the swill I've have at mediocre breweries.

 

[Dgallo]

That's pretty reasonable to me, I mean 5 bucks for a quality "pounder" yeah I'll take it in a can over a 5 dollar pour of some of the swill I've have at mediocre breweries.

I agree, their quality makes it worth it to me. Around me even the most mediocre breweries are getting 15.99-18.99 a 4 pack.

That said, Thin Man brewing out of Buffalo NY Is a great brewery to grab beer from cost to quality stand point. They aren’t the best but solid and their double IPAs are 15.99 a four pack