No one can fill my CO2 Tank...:(

[middleofnowhere]

I bought a 20oz tank from the guy who tried to fill my 5# tank. He still charged me walmart's price, but that is with it filled up.

This town sucks. I am heading to Ottawa in a month and will get my 5# tank filled while I am out. I need to get this set up for Halloween.

How long will a 20oz tank last for two kegs if I naturally carb the beer?

The worst thing about all of this, is we tried the rubber washer thing and it worked, but the guy never had enough gas to get any into my tank. This town is brutal.

 

[IrregularPulse]

You should be able to push both kegs I'd imagine since you're not carbing with them.

 

[mmb]

Are you talking big tanks as in 100# or big as in20#? I swap a 20# tank with AirGas for $12US at the welding supply. I did have to buy a tank first to swap with, but after that it has been super easy.

5# tanks look handy but always turn out to be a pain in the arse, IMO.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I am talking the big 100# tanks, they don't even have any 20# ones in town anywhere.

I have my problem solved for now...I am going to look into getting a 20# tank when I go to Ottawa. That should last me the whole year anyway with 2 kegs, and maybe I will get another when I go in the spring.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Another crappy thing that just happened....I left the house for 10 minutes to drop my daughter off at Dance class and while I was gone UPS showed up with my Love Controller...booooooo...Now I have to wait until Friday to rig it all up....this is not my day.

 

[dtadpole]

The worst thing about all of this, is we tried the rubber washer thing and it worked, but the guy never had enough gas to get any into my tank. This town is brutal.

Good to see it would at least work for you to, I have to have mine refilled again here in a week or two hope the shop has enough gas to fill me up! Good luck on getting your tank filled!

 

[JKoravos]

Why can't they get a seal with your tank? It should be the same connection as any other CO2 tank.

 

[Clayton]

hey dude just last week in a pinch i did this.

i took two of my regulators, and on one remove the high presser gauge,, and on the second one I removed the tank stem , ok then I took the tank stem and screwed it in to where the high presser gauge came out of the first regulator.

so at this point i have a regulator with two tank stem connetors and one low presser gauge and an out put,

i know the guy that owns the county store near my house and I asked if i could barrow one of his tanks.

i put my take in the freeze to chill it and then hooked both tanks up to the regulator, then i turned the big barrowed tank upside down , i then opened the valve on my tank, and then opened the valve on the upside down barrowed tank,
liquid CO2 flowed out of the upside down tank in to my tank.

it worked great. you can do the same thing. or just get the adaptor for the pain ball shop so thay can fill your tank, the fittign will just cost a few bucks and if you give it to them i am sure they would be happy to be your filling station.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Actually when I was there yesterday, they said it isn't worth there while to do it anymore and that this might be their last tank of CO2. The business is not there for CO2 fill ups, and it is wasted space they can use for other things.

 

[mmb]

Actually when I was there yesterday, they said it isn't worth there while to do it anymore and that this might be their last tank of CO2. The business is not there for CO2 fill ups, and it is wasted space they can use for other things.

Sounds like a nitch market that needs to be filled.

Get a 100# tank and do your own fills.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Sounds like a plan!

 

[middleofnowhere]

Thanks to keithsipa, for another suggestion, but praxair can not full 5 pound tanks, but they can get me a 20 pound tank, but I have to set up a business account and rent the tank. I still have one option to get the tank filled. there is a propane place that refills fire extinguishers, so they must have co2. I will try them tomorrow.

keithsipa, I would have messaged you back but your mailbox is full.

 

[mmb]

Thanks to keithsipa, for another suggestion, but praxair can not full 5 pound tanks, but they can get me a 20 pound tank, but I have to set up a business account and rent the tank. I still have one option to get the tank filled. there is a propane place that refills fire extinguishers, so they must have co2. I will try them tomorrow.

keithsipa, I would have messaged you back but your mailbox is full.

I purchased my 20# tank outright from AirGas and then they allow swaps. Skipped the whole tank "rent" issue.

I'd ask if they have that option as well.

 

[middleofnowhere]

praxair told me I could not buy a tank from them.

 

[keithsipa]

Thanks to keithsipa, for another suggestion, but praxair can not full 5 pound tanks, but they can get me a 20 pound tank, but I have to set up a business account and rent the tank. I still have one option to get the tank filled. there is a propane place that refills fire extinguishers, so they must have co2. I will try them tomorrow.

keithsipa, I would have messaged you back but your mailbox is full.

No problem Jesterday. Let us know how things turn out.

 

[shelly_belly]

I rented my tank - $55/year for a 20#, $12 for refills. I figure that gives me a year to find a deal on craigslist.

 

[Arkador]

Yup, it is! You just need a pinvalve adapter.

or a paintball tank with an on/off valve

I don't need an adapter to use my Smart Parts paintball tank with on/off valve. it has the same threads as my CO2 tank.

I am very surprised that the paintball shop cannot fill the tank. If you can fill a 20oz paintball tank, you can fill a 5# CO2 tank, the threads are the same...

 

[middleofnowhere]

The guy filling the tank was pretty clueless and not trained very well. I will figure something out.

 

[JKoravos]

hey dude just last week in a pinch i did this.

i took two of my regulators, and on one remove the high presser gauge,, and on the second one I removed the tank stem , ok then I took the tank stem and screwed it in to where the high presser gauge came out of the first regulator.

so at this point i have a regulator with two tank stem connetors and one low presser gauge and an out put,

i know the guy that owns the county store near my house and I asked if i could barrow one of his tanks.

i put my take in the freeze to chill it and then hooked both tanks up to the regulator, then i turned the big barrowed tank upside down , i then opened the valve on my tank, and then opened the valve on the upside down barrowed tank,
liquid CO2 flowed out of the upside down tank in to my tank.

it worked great. you can do the same thing. or just get the adaptor for the pain ball shop so thay can fill your tank, the fittign will just cost a few bucks and if you give it to them i am sure they would be happy to be your filling station.

That is a very bad idea. Running liquid CO2 through a regulator could cause the regulator to fail and subsequently explode. You'd be much better off going directly from one tank to the other.

 

[Arkador]

That is a very bad idea. Running liquid CO2 through a regulator could cause the regulator to fail and subsequently explode. You'd be much better off going directly from one tank to the other.

+1 for a bad idea..

Not sure it would explode, but it can definitely freeze and crack the diaphragm of the regulator.

 

[JKoravos]

+1 for a bad idea..

Not sure it would explode, but it can definitely freeze and crack the diaphragm of the regulator.

Probably not that likely, but it's a definite possibility. If the diaphragm cracked and allow sudden expansion of gas at 600 psi and there wasn't enough flow relief the bonnet could be blown off.

Again, there's a low probability, but the consequences could be catastrophic.

 

[SWAMPER]

I purchased my 20# tank outright from AirGas and then they allow swaps. Skipped the whole tank "rent" issue.

I'd ask if they have that option as well.

same deal for me I have 2 20# tanks and just traded them for full ones no rent, use one to run air tools when not close to the house

 

[Richardwhittaker]

Jester, When are you going to ottawa?

I am only a couple hours away from Ottawa, I have 2 co2 tanks a 10# and a 20# and I don't need both.

If you are interested PM me.

Richard

 

[powderbock]

I didn't see in mentioned in any of the posts, but have you tried a medical supply store for a swap of the smaller 5# tanks?

 

[middleofnowhere]

There is no medical supply store. Praxair supplies the medicinal CO2 and the smallest size they have it 20# tanks.

 

[Saccharomyces]

Get a 20# tank, it will last you a year, 1# of CO2 will carbonate and push one keg or push 2.5-3 kegs if already carbonated.

In the meantime, the paintball adapter is the way to go, I have one I use with my Micromatic for a portable kegging system. KegConnection sells the paintball tanks cheaper than $55 so buy one from him if you wanna save $$.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I solved my problems 2 ways now. I "found" an empty 20# tank, brought it to Air Liquide and they exchanged it for a full one for a very very reasonable price.

Plus I got the paintball adapter ordered as well.

I have a 5# tank that is no good to me, I am open to trades. I am waiting on a response from another member regarding this tank, but if he doesn't want it, I am open to trade offers.

 

[Jmac00]

Awesome....good to hear i won't have to drag a CO2 tank with me when i go to your halloween party for free beer LOL....

 

[middleofnowhere]

Nope, now everyone drinks free!!! It is a long drive for you to come to the halloween party....you must be desperate for free beer....lol

 

[Jmac00]

with driving through Quebec, i'll make sure i stock up on some cheap beer, enough to make the drive worthwhile...LOL.