I don't get why folks are bashing grinder for expressing what looks more like a rhetorical question then a bash of the process to me. He probably formed that based on glancing at a few problem/challenge threads about it.
I mean I haven't followed every no chill thread, but just glancing at some of the titles, like even THIS one from the similar threads box below,
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/no-chill-beer-chill-haze-ugh-127407/ could lead some to think maybe there is a problem.
We DO have new brewers on here who have come on and seen a ton of threads with titles like "Infection" and without reading the entire threads, where we experienced brewers have established that the noob who created the thread was looking at their first krausen and was just scared by the sheer ugliness of it, and have remarked that by looking at all the thread titles that infections or stuck fermentations run rampant (when even those stuck ferm threads are usually under 72 hours, going by airlock and not using hydrometer threads rather than real stuck ferm threads.)
I betcha grinder is coming from the same mindset, seeing thread titles, and maybe glancing at a few of the problem threads is thinking the same thing.....
Rather than bash him for it or call him a troll (which he's been around here long enough to be established as NOT a troll, just inquisitive, and a pretty decent guy,) why dontcha
educate him instead. Point him to the successful threads rather than the worrisome ones.
My take on No CHill, and having been one of the first ones on here to post about how interesting it was, and to defend it when the typical "we bash what we are ignorant of, or that which goes against conventional wisdom" thing happened initially, is that it is going to pretty quick expose any holes in your sanitization regimen and brewing process...if you are sloppy in it, especially in your post boil sanitization regimen you could possibly have a problem, or at least you could have a greater risk of it, over quick cooling.
And more than likely those who try it and post problem threads, probably are new brewers who aren't quite established in their sanitization methodolgy and run into problem...
Or are simple starting the no chill equivelent of "is my beer ruined" threads because they THINK they are having problems when in reality they are just nervous about it.
And Grinder has just picked up on it....I don't think he's trying to bash it, or troll, I think he's interested in learning about it, and to a surface view it looks to him like there's a lot of problems with it.
I can't really see anything wrong with his initial post or his metaphor of mexico, there are ignorant folks out there, who equate Mexico with instant illness, especially in light of the swine flu panic, as well as the old stories of Montezuma's revenge. We know people visiting sometimes get sick down there, but that doesn't mean ALL people do.
Just like some beers DO get infected, but those are in the minority, despite what some new folks looking on may misperceive.
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