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[AMel85]

Is it a "bad" idea to do the 2nd round of fermentation in the bottle? Is it a preference thing? I've read a lot going both ways but no explanation really.

 

[ArcaneXor]

What do you mean?

 

[Stevo2569]

Secondary fermentation takes place in the fermentor not in the bottle. If you secondary in the bottle you could have bottle bombs unless you know exactly how much co2 is yet to be created. Not likely without many many experiments with the same brew and yeast.

 

[PricePeeler]

Don't you finish primary, then add a speific amount of boiled sugar water to your beer to create carbonation with remaining yeast? After adding the sugar to your (for example say 5 gallons), you use a bottle filler to ad a specific volume of beer to your bottles.
I think you might be talking about bottle conditioning at room temperature after you have completed the steps above and capped the bottles.

Price

 

[AMel85]

I read a recipe that basically said after fermenting, bottle n let it finish off that way. I've read other things like that so I was confused/curious.

 

[AMel85]

Don't you finish primary, then add a speific amount of boiled sugar water to your beer to create carbonation with remaining yeast? After adding the sugar to your (for example say 5 gallons), you use a bottle filler to ad a specific volume of beer to your bottles.
I think you might be talking about bottle conditioning at room temperature after you have completed the steps above and capped the bottles.

Price

As I said, I am brand spanking new to this so I might have just been getting things crossed. Thx.

 

[PricePeeler]

I am new too, so I am actually talking it out. I am pretty sure this is what happens, hoping a more experienced brewer chimes in. Keep us posted.

 

[AMel85]

Secondary fermentation takes place in the fermentor not in the bottle. If you secondary in the bottle you could have bottle bombs unless you know exactly how much co2 is yet to be created. Not likely without many many experiments with the same brew and yeast.

This brings up another newb question; is a secondary ferm necessary or a preference thing?

 

[jpinetti]

2 weeks minimum for fermentation. Secondary not required unless dry hopping. Fermentation is done when gravity stabilizes after two or three readings. THEN bottle w/ priming sugar and let sit as long as possible. Higher gravity beers take much longer to carb up in bottle.

 

[FEARDIZ]

using a secondary is basicly a 'cleaning' process, get the beer off the yeast cake, plus you free up your primary

 

[Clementine]

OK secondary fermentation and bottle conditioning are two different things

Secondary fermentation is not really fermentation but rather the time we give the yeast to clean up some of the by products of the primary fermentation. So when the yeast are really active they make some compounds by accident that can be converted into alcohol later. These compounds are in very small amounts but do affect taste and we would much rather had the alcohol so we leave the yeast in the beer to clean them up. This can be done in the primary (the new way of thinking, less chance of infection and oxidization) or in a dedicated secondary fermenter (and older concept of homebrewing and now most just use a dedicated secondary for bulk aging of certain types of homebrew, others do it as they say it makes the beer clearer and to get the beer off the yeast cake). If I go into too much detail on either one of these methods it will start a raging argument about the need for secondaries or not, suffice to say read up about it and make your own mind up.

Bottle conditioning is probably what your instructions are talking about, this is getting the CO2 to carbonate your beer. So your beer is finished fermenting which you confirm by having the same reading of your hydrometer for two or three days running. Just because the krausen has gone or the airlock is not bubbling does not mean that fermentation is or is not taking place. So after it is done fermenting you leave it for a week or so at the same temp or maybe a few degrees higher to clean up your beer (secondary fermentation) you then bottle your beer. This is mixing a small amount of sugar (dextrose, DME, Honey, brown sugar etc) with the beer to start it fermenting again. This then produces CO2 and because the beer is now in a bottle that CO2 can't escape and carbonates your beer the way it has been done since time began. If you are lucky enough to have a keg then you can skip this and force carb it with a bottle of pressurized CO2. When adding sugar use a bottle priming calculator so you add the right amount normal around 4oz for 5gallons. As too much will lead to bottle bombs and too little will lead to flat beer. Also check out batch priming vs adding sugar to the bottle as it adding sugar to the bottle it is hard to get it just right.


Clem

 

[bad67z]

using a secondary is basically a 'cleaning' process, get the beer off the yeast cake, plus you free up your primary

The cleaning process will take place on the yeast cake as well, I leave my beer in the fermeter on the yeast cake for 4-5 weeks most of the time. Then bottle or keg, both turn out very clear.