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Creston24

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Wasn't quite sure how I wanted to write this post. I have recently started trying to brew hard cider. I just started a second batch. I decided to break that into a separate post, so this post will be about my first batch.

So my first foray into this, after doing a bit of reading, was by using a store bought, albeit an expensive brand of apple juice....Martinelli's Apple Juice. With my new 3 gallon Carboy, vapor lock, and WL775 English Cider Yeast, hydrometer, and high hopes, off I went. Here are my initial readings:

SG: 1.060 @about 68 degrees (I forgot to get a thermometer)

I poured in the juice and pitched in most of my yeast. I figured since the vial said it was good for 5 gallons and I was only using about 3 gallons, I shouldn't use it all. Later I found out that it wouldn't have been an issue, but as it turns out, it is probably a good thing I held some in reserve. After about 24 hrs, I began to see some activity, and was pretty excited. Now, I will admit, I was a bit over anxious, and at +7 days I took a reading of 1.050. Keep in mind, I am still a noob, and yes I have since read more about this and realized some of my mistakes. At +9 days I added a mixture of 1/2 cup brown sugar and decided to bottle, with an SG of 1.034. Probably not a good idea. The taste test was pretty good and I decided to throw a 1 liter bottle in the fridge, since the next day was Thanksgiving, and wanted to have some for the feast. The rest of the mixture was put in another 1 litre and 2 liter bottle and left on the kitchen counter. Thankfully nothing exploded. I was a bit depressed with the outcome of the bottle from the fridge. It was drink able but had little carbonation and only a moderate apple taste. I also noticed that the other two bottles in the kitchen showed no activity. I even opened them (I am reusing growlers purchased at Stone Brewery...very thick glass with flip tops) After some more reading and a discussion with the local brew supply shop, I decided to try and 'rescue' what was left of this first batch. I purchased a one gallon glass jug and another vapor lock and decided to try reintroducing the remaining yeast. I will say here that i noticed when pulling the yeast from the fridge, there was a substantial amount of 'sludge' attached to the lid of the vial, and though, maybe I didn't let it come up to temp before pitching it the first time. So this time, I let it warm up a bit and also mixed a very little bit of the batch of cider in it and shook it up real good, so hopefully will that will help.

So at this point, I have a batch at 1.020 with a little bit of the yeast mixed in, in hopes that it will start fermenting again, and that I can save this batch. I know now that i need to leave it fermenting until it drops to around 1.005 or so before I try to bottle again, with an other racking in between.

Wish me luck. I will post again about the second batch I started yesterday.
 
Any comments on saving this batch would help. The very little yeast i added back to this hasnt done much visably over the first 24 hours. I get about two 'burps' from the vapor lock per hour, so far. Should i just get another batch of yeast and add the whole thing. At this point is still close to 1.020. Not sure if 're-yeasting would do anything or not. Or, is this just a lost batch? Help?
 
You didn't mention anything about adding yeast nutrient, so I assume you added none. Apple juice is notoriously low in the nutrients that yeast need to thrive.

Ask your LHBS guy about yeast "energizer". It's a nutrient formula designed to kick start stalled fermentation. And pick up some yeast nutrient too (they're not the same things), for your next batch.

Good luck. All is not lost.
 
You didn't mention anything about adding yeast nutrient, so I assume you added none. Apple juice is notoriously low in the nutrients that yeast need to thrive.

Ask your LHBS guy about yeast "energizer". It's a nutrient formula designed to kick start stalled fermentation. And pick up some yeast nutrient too (they're not the same things), for your next batch.

Good luck. All is not lost.

Thanks. No, i didn't add any nutrient. Can i add some 'energizer at this point of this batch?
 
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