Natural gas burners

[blackschnauzer]

Just finished building most of my brew stand this weekend. Tried boiling a pot of water to test it all out and I have obviously placed my 23 jet NG burner way too high.... Flames were licking the side of my brand new kettle and blackening it. If anyone else has these burners, how low did you place them below the bottom of the kettle? Also, what kind of wind protector did you install, if any? I always brew out of the wind in my garage, but not sure if it would help keeping the flame from going crazy.

 

[Bobby_M]

The 23 tip burners are way to powerful for vessels of that size. You should have gone with the 10 tip. In both cases, the burner should be at least 10" below the pot. Since the tips pull the combustion air in, they can't be stifled in a pocket of carbon monoxide.

 

[beernutz]

I agree with Bobby M, but I turned my 23 tip burner into a 10 tip by removing tips and replacing them with ss screws. If you search the forum I think you will find the exact size you need, at least I did.

 

[blackschnauzer]

How far down should it be if I reduce it to ten tips?

 

[blackschnauzer]

I guess I bought the 23 tip burners knowing that they were too powerful and planning on plugging off some of the tips. The ten tip burners that I have seen are either much more expensive or way too hard to find in my experience... Btw it makes me wonder what these were made for, they call them wok burners.... Must be much bigger than what I've got,

 

[Bobby_M]

The burners still need to be about 10" away from the pots to allow fresh air to enter the bottoms of the tips. If you wind screen them, it has to start at about the top of the tips and go up from there.

The tips can be plugged with M8 bolts.

In the long run, I think you'd be much happier with the BG14 "hurricane burner" castings. The 23 tip burners are meant for wok stoves where the wok is like 24" in diameter and they want max BTUs all the time.

 

[blackschnauzer]

thanks for the info, guys. before i had this really nice little propane floor burner that worked great..... makes me think all this work is not worth it lol. i just wish i could get one of those regular old round propane burners and just run it on natural gas. not the banjo one, not a jet burner, just a cheap 17 dollar burner.

 

[jrcrilly]

thanks for the info, guys. before i had this really nice little propane floor burner that worked great..... makes me think all this work is not worth it lol. i just wish i could get one of those regular old round propane burners and just run it on natural gas. not the banjo one, not a jet burner, just a cheap 17 dollar burner.

No reason that you can't. There's no difference between a high pressure propane burner and a low pressure propane or NG burner. What changes is the orifice.

 

[MindenMan]

You can use one of those $17.00 burners on NG without any problems. As mentioned above it is all about the orifice size (and the appropriate amount of O2). Depending on which type of shutoff valve you have, you may not need to add an additional needle valve to control the heat.

And, NG is a lot cheaper to use than propane, and, NG won't run out in the middle of a boil.

 

[blackschnauzer]

thanks for the replies. fortunately, i found a different set of burners that will provide a better heat source, and will be more controllable. i'll update after installing them.

 

[jstraight]

I am having the same carbon build up with a recently installed 11 tip burner. How did you rectify your problem.

 

[blackschnauzer]

i ended up changing them out to a different style burner, ring burner style. i think you probably just have the burner mounted too close to the bottom of the kettle, or you arent getting enough oxygen to the flame, the flame should be real nice and blue, not yellow. btw, some bar keepers friend and a stainless steel pad and a lot of scrubbing got the black marks out.