My first Dubbel still bubbling away... wLP530 Abbey Ale Yeast

[Gatsby1923]

I'm the proud father of 5 gallons of a Belgian Dubbel (my 5th batch of home brew) that I pitched a vial of WLP530 ABBEY ALE YEAST... My kit instructions from my local home brew supply said to bring the primary fermenter up to 85 degrees for its last few days in primary. I did that slowly over 2 days and it's sitting there right at 85...
Tomorrow will make 9 days of fermentation and the airlock is still bubbling away.
My directions say to rack into a secondary after 7-10 days... Should I rack it or wait for the bubbles to stop? I'm going to age it in a secondary for 3 months.

Thanks everyone!

Dave M

 

[orangehero]

Measure S.G. to make sure fermentation is finished. A single vial for a Dubbel (typically fairly high O.G.) is a pretty big underpitch, so it's going to take longer to finish.

Also I'd skip the secondary, let it sit in primary for 4 weeks, then bottle or keg.

 

[Gatsby1923]

Thanks I'll give it some more time then. On day two the airlock clogged and nearly took the top off. It's a fun yeast to say the least.

 

[ArizonaGoalie]

I make a mean dubbel and I've brewed it half a dozen times, it gets better every time. I've never racked it into a secondary, but I have had to use a blow off tube every single time.

 

[theQ]

Anyone care to share a good dubbel recipe ?

Althou I can control the temp very well Hefes and Dubbel don't turn the same way I taste them from bottles. Maybe I wasn't using 530..

 

[mkyl428]

Anyone care to share a good dubbel recipe ?

Althou I can control the temp very well Hefes and Dubbel don't turn the same way I taste them from bottles. Maybe I wasn't using 530..

I just made this.. turned out FANTASTIC!!!
I fermented with WLP500

Chimay-By Denny Conn

11 lb. 2 row pale malt
1 lb. 10L Munich
.5 lb. Special B
.5 lb. wheat malt
.5 lb. biscuit malt
.5 lb. crystal 60
1 lb. D90 Candi Syrup
1.25 oz. Spalt 5.1% 60 min. (6.375 AAU)
.5 oz. Spalt 20 min. (2.55 AAU)
mash at 150 for 60 min.
OG=1.078 (a little on the strong side)
WY1214 or culture from a bottle of Chimay Premiere

Any noble hop will work...just keep the AAU the same.
Another variation:
1.5 oz. Fuggle pellet - 4.8%-60 min.
.5 oz. EKG - 5%-10 min.

 

[orangehero]

Dubbels, and indeed all of the Trappist style beers, usually have very simple grain bills. Most of the flavor depends on the use of a flavorful Belgian yeast and dark candi syrup. You want a good amount of sugar syrup to maintain "digestibility" as the Monks say; from 15% to 25%. Hop presence should be low and Noble type. Malt should be continental, although certain British malts can work as well.

Something as simple as this would make an excellent Dubbel:
60% Pilsner Malt
25% Pale Ale Malt
15% Dark Candi Syrup
0.25 to 0.55 IBU's per Gravity Points, all or most added at the beginning of boil

You can play around with the ratio of Pils/Pale malt as well as using small quantities of Munich, Vienna, Biscuit, Aromatic, and Special B, although I tend to prefer simpler grain bills as they can get muddled. Many like the flavors of Special B in a dubbel, used from 1% to 3%.

 

[theQ]

Thank you for the recipes and ideas. I will save that for my research. I brew Strong Blonds and Saison and they are dead on but like I said Dubbel never tasted like one. (I do remember that I tried a Abbey Yeast not sure what number)

Talking about Candy syrup, anyone tried to replace D90 their own candy syrup with the this recipe ?
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/20-lb-sugar-jar-yeast-nutrient-114837/

 

[theQ]

I just made this.. turned out FANTASTIC!!!
I fermented with WLP500

Chimay-By Denny Conn

11 lb. 2 row pale malt
1 lb. 10L Munich
.5 lb. Special B
.5 lb. wheat malt
.5 lb. biscuit malt
.5 lb. crystal 60
1 lb. D90 Candi Syrup
1.25 oz. Spalt 5.1% 60 min. (6.375 AAU)
.5 oz. Spalt 20 min. (2.55 AAU)
mash at 150 for 60 min.
OG=1.078 (a little on the strong side)
WY1214 or culture from a bottle of Chimay Premiere

Any noble hop will work...just keep the AAU the same.
Another variation:
1.5 oz. Fuggle pellet - 4.8%-60 min.
.5 oz. EKG - 5%-10 min.

This is a 5gal recipe right ?

 

[mkyl428]

This is a 5gal recipe right ?

I can't remember if it was 5 or 5.5 I will look at my notes when I get home in a little bit and let you know... I just grabbed a copy of the recipe from online to post for you

 

[mkyl428]

5.5 gallon batch

 

[theQ]

I am thinking to make this Dubbel with dates sugar instead of D90, anyone tried ?

 

[mkyl428]

I am thinking to make a Dubbel with dates sugars instead of D90, anyone tried ?

I've never tried it I have used table sugar before, and preferred the flavor from the D90....

If you want to try it though, go for it, I'm sure it won't be terrible, just different....

Cheers

 

[beergolf]

I am thinking to make this Dubbel with dates sugar instead of D90, anyone tried ?

I did a dubbel using dates and date sugar. It came out great.

Here is the recipe I used. Both partial mash and all grain.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f73/dubbel-date-375776/