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Anyone tried juice instead of water? Wild blackberries arent very flavorful this year, but I thought might add some nice acidity and would be easy to juice. Something like 20lbs of honey and 2.5 gallons of blackberry juice to start and then 20 or 25 lbs of blueberries?
 
Anyone tried juice instead of water? Wild blackberries arent very flavorful this year, but I thought might add some nice acidity and would be easy to juice. Something like 20lbs of honey and 2.5 gallons of blackberry juice to start and then 20 or 25 lbs of blueberries?
I used 1 gallon of juice (.5 tart cherry/.5 black currant), 1 gallon of honey and three gallons of water last time. I liked the results.
 
Anyone tried juice instead of water? Wild blackberries arent very flavorful this year, but I thought might add some nice acidity and would be easy to juice. Something like 20lbs of honey and 2.5 gallons of blackberry juice to start and then 20 or 25 lbs of blueberries?
No but I've seen recipes for this before. If you do please post your results as I'm curious.

I did substitute coconut water for water in a coconut lime mead that turned out real nice. It had a very margarita/island drink vibe to it. On the drier side with more acidity due to the line juice added after fermentation. I've also made a banana juice type slurry by boiling bananas in water for ~45 minutes and substituted that instead of water in a banana mead.
 
No but I've seen recipes for this before. If you do please post your results as I'm curious.

I did substitute coconut water for water in a coconut lime mead that turned out real nice. It had a very margarita/island drink vibe to it. On the drier side with more acidity due to the line juice added after fermentation. I've also made a banana juice type slurry by boiling bananas in water for ~45 minutes and substituted that instead of water in a banana mead.
Bring to FOFA.
 
Just read through this entire thread and feel like I can't live life without making a mead now. Especially jb123's 1 gallon
stuff just seems way too fun.

Does anybody have any suggestion on a 1 gallon black currant melomel? Suggestions for how many pounds of black currants to water to honey? I was thinking of adding black currants to primary, and tart cherries to secondary.

I had this in mind:
4 pounds honey (not sure which)
2 pounds black currants (primary)
2.5 pounds cherries (secondary)
like 76 ounces of water
71b yeast
fermaid K and DAP for energizing and staggered additions

Anything horribly awry with this? Things that could be better?
 
Just read through this entire thread and feel like I can't live life without making a mead now. Especially jb123's 1 gallon
stuff just seems way too fun.

Does anybody have any suggestion on a 1 gallon black currant melomel? Suggestions for how many pounds of black currants to water to honey? I was thinking of adding black currants to primary, and tart cherries to secondary.

I had this in mind:
4 pounds honey (not sure which)
2 pounds black currants (primary)
2.5 pounds cherries (secondary)
like 76 ounces of water
71b yeast
fermaid K and DAP for energizing and staggered additions

Anything horribly awry with this? Things that could be better?
The only thing I could say is maybe more water but that's just because after its all said and done with the fruit soaking up liquid it will be a small yield. I do use mostly nip bottles 187ml just for that reason. I use a full gallon of water and four lbs honey. But this is just me telling you my experience, nothing wrong at all using 76oz water. Good luck:) it's a fun little side hobby.
 
The only thing I could say is maybe more water but that's just because after its all said and done with the fruit soaking up liquid it will be a small yield. I do use mostly nip bottles 187ml just for that reason. I use a full gallon of water and four lbs honey. But this is just me telling you my experience, nothing wrong at all using 76oz water. Good luck:) it's a fun little side hobby.
Appreciate the advice! Sounds like a gallon of water is a good idea, and I really like the idea of 187ml bottles as well. You could fill up like 20 of those!
 
Kind of a funny story. I guess cool more than funny. A guy I golf with dabbles in brewing wine making etc. he made a traditional mead in 1989 said it was awful for ever, hadn't had one in five years and shared a 750ml with me. We drank it all. Was probably the best traditional mead I've ever had. Production mead and all. Was truly amazed. So if we all sit on our stuff for 26 years.....
 
Yeah usually 12-20. Depends on the fruit and # used.....it's a little more work cleaning and stuff but it's nice to have more bottles.
awesome. Do you have a specific nutrient addition/degassing schedule you follow?

I was thinking of just scaling down this (from homebrewersassociation) by a factor of 5:
  • Day 0: After re-hdyrating the yeast with Go-Ferm and pitching, add 4.5g of Fermaid-K and 2g Diammonium Phosphate (DAP)
  • Day 1, 3, 5, 7, 8: Degas mead by gently stirring, twirling the carboy carefully, or using a wine de-gasser
  • Day 2, 4, 6: Gently stir and add 4.5g Fermaid-K and 2g of DAP
 
Explains a lot, really.
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Off the fruit. Cherries look gross after giving up all their redness.
My batch of cherry mead looks to be finished fermenting at 1.024, which was my target. :)

Planning on pulling the cherries (bagged them, thank goodness) off next weekend and racking to secondary a few days after that.
 

First mead is underway! I decided to go with about 3.6 pounds of honey, 2 pounds of tart cherries in a mesh bag, a gallon of water, and 71b with ferment k/DAP.
Nice! Let us know how it turns out.

What type of honey did you use?
Are you going for a drier mead?
Any plans to put more fruit in at secondary or tertiary fermentation?

I'm always curious why people make certain choices with regards to mead making.
 
Nice! Let us know how it turns out.

What type of honey did you use?
Are you going for a drier mead?
Any plans to put more fruit in at secondary or tertiary fermentation?

I'm always curious why people make certain choices with regards to mead making.
I used texas wildflower honey from the Austin Homebrew store. Some friends gave me a bunch of suggestions on local places so will go that route next time. I was hoping to go with a mead on the sweeter side so it will be interesting to see how it develops and what changes I should make. And yep, I was hoping to add black currants in the secondary. Still deciding how much and for how long though!

Additionally, I have it fermenting at 72 in hopes to speed up the process a little.
 
Yesterday I noticed that I have a 1/2 gallon of orange blossom honey sitting next to 6 lbs of canned Apricot puree. It got me thinking that maybe I should combine these ingredients in my 3 gallon carboy and make a small batch mead to **** around with.

Today I started thinking about what I could use to ferment it with. Haven't tried any 'sour' meads before, wonder if that would play nicely together. Could also play around with dry hopping it. Anyone have any experience or thoughts on this?
 
I tried apricots once. It got sour on itself. Not like infected gross but sour. Come to think of it was gross. I dumped it...this was real apricots. You should try it!! Don't try to make it sour though imo...I'll drink whatever u make!
 
Yesterday I noticed that I have a 1/2 gallon of orange blossom honey sitting next to 6 lbs of canned Apricot puree. It got me thinking that maybe I should combine these ingredients in my 3 gallon carboy and make a small batch mead to **** around with.

Today I started thinking about what I could use to ferment it with. Haven't tried any 'sour' meads before, wonder if that would play nicely together. Could also play around with dry hopping it. Anyone have any experience or thoughts on this?
Been really wanting to do a sour mead. My main worry is that it won't get all that funky or interesting bc of all the simple sugars. So I was thinking about making a low gravity mead (~1050ish?), adding some maltodextrin and letting it ride for a while, and letting some de Garde yeast go to town. Another thought I had was to just blend some funky beer into an already fermented mead, though that's not quite the same. Let me know if you get around to doing it or if you have any other ideas!
 
I'm not sure what alcohol tolerance of some souring yeast/bacteria have but I have seen some non-saccharomyces fermented meads using Brett. A word to the wise if you use brett just know that it typically takes longer to ferment all the sugars out of the must and will take the mead down to a really low gravity (something close to around 1.005) but can also cause exploding bottles if you bottle too early or don't stop fermentation with something like pasteurization.

The other option is blending. You could blend your mead with a sour beer.
 
**** it. I'm doing it.

3 gallon batch:
  • 4.5 lbs of local honey for a OG of ~1050
  • .25 lb of maltodextrin (maybe up to .5 lbs - thoughts?)
  • not sure on yeast yet but some built up dregs for sure (probably a mix of built up dregs from NG R&D, dG, Tilquin, Casey Oak Theory, and Orval)
Thoughts/suggestions?
 
**** it. I'm doing it.

3 gallon batch:
  • 4.5 lbs of local honey for a OG of ~1050
  • .25 lb of maltodextrin (maybe up to .5 lbs - thoughts?)
  • not sure on yeast yet but some built up dregs for sure (probably a mix of built up dregs from NG R&D, dG, Tilquin, Casey Oak Theory, and Orval)
Thoughts/suggestions?
What's your thought with the maltodextrin again? Long chain sugars for the brett? Not needed IMO.

I think the honey selection will be really important for this. I'm drinking a mixed ferment strong golden with 20% honey as I write this. It went through some weirdness, even more so than other mixed ferment beers. I think stronger flavored honeys have the potential to get some weird phenols from the brett. I used a a very spicy medium(?) amber honey and it got unpleasantly phenolic before clearing up and leaving a lot of floral honey character. Bottled 5 weeks ago and even with re yeasting, it's not tasting great now, but I think another month and hopefully it will clean up again.

Sorry for non-mead post, hopefully at least somewhat relevant to your endeavor.
 
What's your thought with the maltodextrin again? Long chain sugars for the brett? Not needed IMO.

I think the honey selection will be really important for this. I'm drinking a mixed ferment strong golden with 20% honey as I write this. It went through some weirdness, even more so than other mixed ferment beers. I think stronger flavored honeys have the potential to get some weird phenols from the brett. I used a a very spicy medium(?) amber honey and it got unpleasantly phenolic before clearing up and leaving a lot of floral honey character. Bottled 5 weeks ago and even with re yeasting, it's not tasting great now, but I think another month and hopefully it will clean up again.

Sorry for non-mead post, hopefully at least somewhat relevant to your endeavor.
I think you're right that the honey matters a lot. The honey is most likely cotton, so should be fairly neutral. I'm still worried about the yeast and bacteria just busting through those simple sugars without leaving much funk, so I think I'm still gonna add that maltodextrin. It shouldn't have the sacc yeast to interact with, so I'm worried that it won't be all that complex. It's worth doing a side by side, but I don't think I have any free carboys.
 
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