made friends with the neighbor---NOT

[Pumbaa]

If you think twice in one night is to much think of it this way the cop came by told him to turn it down and as soon as the cop left the area he cranked it up again. So once is OK but after the cop leaves it is fine to do it and you should not be bothered by the cops for the rest of the night but I should have to listen to two cats making love coming out of his garage. If he was to close the garage it would muffle most of the noise but he won't

You sir need to learn how to shut off residential electrical service at the meter . . . It's actually fairly easy

 

[Acoma]

Wow, calling the cops 12 times for loud music? Sounds a little over board. Then telling the drunk that everyone in the neighborhood basically hates him and is afraid of him at the same time. Not exactly setting the stage for a peaceful negotiation. Still doesn't justify having a bottle thrown thru your window. I am just glad I don't live on your street.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

There is loud and then there is LOUD. You can play guitar in your home at pretty loud volumes before it gets LOUD at your neighbor's property. Nobody should have to put up with LOUD. But imo it doesn't matter what instrument you play, if a drummer is 'allowed' to play at a certain volume then so is any other instrument.

I play guitar, with some volume, all the time but in the 16 years I've lived there nobody has ever called the cops or asked me to turn it down (a few say they like it). I occasionally crank the 100W Marshall full blast but not for very long. If asked I would turn it down immediately. The druggie in the OP was unreasonable and an *******, no defending that imo.

My benchmark for 'too loud' is if it's louder than your average lawnmower/weed trimmer. If you can mow your lawn and create a certain level of noise at the border of my property, then I can play my guitar and create the same level of noise at the border of your property. It's only fair. Usually the loudest I ever play is WHEN somebody nearby is doing lawn work.

HOA: The claim is that a run-down house lowers property values because it makes the neighborhood less desirable to live in. So that's why we have HOAs. But when I speak to a lot of people, they hate HOAs. And if all these people hate HOAs then obviously HOAs lower the property values because it makes those neighborhoods less desirable to live in. So the notion that HOAs somehow help property values is questionable imo. It could be just the opposite.

 

[snccoulter]

Wow, calling the cops 12 times for loud music? Sounds a little over board. Then telling the drunk that everyone in the neighborhood basically hates him and is afraid of him at the same time. Not exactly setting the stage for a peaceful negotiation. Still doesn't justify having a bottle thrown thru your window. I am just glad I don't live on your street.

Oh i never told him the neighbors hated him that is what the neighbors told me. And is calling every time I cant hear my TV inside with the doors and windows closed. Unreasonable? What about it being unreasonable with music. New triple pain windows were put in the house because he is so loud. It did not help.

 

[SwampassJ]

Meh... Get an Order of Protection like Airborneguy suggested. Then, get one of these:

Nothing stops a crazy faster than finding somebody crazier than him.

I need you to come trim my banana and plantain trees.

 

[SwampassJ]

Wow, calling the cops 12 times for loud music? Sounds a little over board. Then telling the drunk that everyone in the neighborhood basically hates him and is afraid of him at the same time. Not exactly setting the stage for a peaceful negotiation. Still doesn't justify having a bottle thrown thru your window. I am just glad I don't live on your street.

Do none of you people read beyond the first page?

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

But imo it doesn't matter what instrument you play, if a drummer is 'allowed' to play at a certain volume then so is any other instrument.

Maybe (wouldn't surprise me) I didn't explain myself properly. It's not that a drummer should be "allowed" to be louder. Turning down the volume on an electric guitar is as easy as turning a knob. Then you can play as aggressively as you want. Turning down the volume on a drum set is not nearly as easy. You have to play softly, and at any time you're bound to get riled up, and start playing louder. It's human nature. Besides, you can play an electric guitar on headphones, but you can't on a drum set.

HOA: The claim is that a run-down house lowers property values because it makes the neighborhood less desirable to live in. So that's why we have HOAs. But when I speak to a lot of people, they hate HOAs. And if all these people hate HOAs then obviously HOAs lower the property values because it makes those neighborhoods less desirable to live in. So the notion that HOAs somehow help property values is questionable imo. It could be just the opposite.

I couldn't agree more. I'm, right now, renting in a neighbourhood with an HOA, because I don't have a choice, but if I were to be able to buy a house, I wouldn't even consider an HOA. I rather live under a bridge.

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

I need you to come trim my banana and plantain trees.

Anytime. But I don't have a car, so you're gonna have to come pick me up. Just say when.

 

[Airborneguy]

I couldn't agree more. I'm, right now, renting in a neighbourhood with an HOA, because I don't have a choice, but if I were to be able to buy a house, I wouldn't even consider an HOA. I rather live under a bridge.

I'm on the board of my HOA, and I HATE it. We actually looked into disbanding, but since we own the street, its nearly impossible. NYC isn't looking to take over maintenance and responsibility for more streets. HOA's suck and I will never buy a house in one again. Around here, they actually aren't very prevalent. The key is to buy in an old neighborhood.

 

[TXCrash]

I'm on the board of my HOA, and I HATE it. We actually looked into disbanding, but since we own the street, its nearly impossible. NYC isn't looking to take over maintenance and responsibility for more streets. HOA's suck and I will never buy a house in one again. Around here, they actually aren't very prevalent. The key is to buy in an old neighborhood with a decent mix of young families (not old folks destined to die soon) that keep their houses, yards, etc. in decent repair.

Edited...

 

[Airborneguy]

...with a decent mix of young families (not old folks destined to die soon) that keep their houses, yards, etc. in decent repair.

Around here, its rare to have a bunch of trashy people around you because houses are so expensive. Most trash can't afford a $500k mortgage for a 1900sq house. The key here is to stay away from neighborhoods with renters. They don't usually have access to parking so their cars end up in front of and blocking other peoples houses or driveways.

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

I'm on the board of my HOA, and I HATE it. We actually looked into disbanding, but since we own the street, its nearly impossible. NYC isn't looking to take over maintenance and responsibility for more streets. HOA's suck and I will never buy a house in one again. Around here, they actually aren't very prevalent. The key is to buy in an old neighborhood.

Here, in S. Florida, they're everywhere. I've had to deal with their BS when I was a DirecTV installer. I sure won't as a homeowner.

 

[jeepinjeepin]

I am also on our HOA board. It sucks. We looked at disbanding but can't because of RS-9 zoning.

 

[Airborneguy]

With us its a tax issue regarding the street. Right now, we are looking into what would happen if the board members declined to return and no one else elected to take over. We are also looking at stripping the board of all responsibility other than paying the taxes on the common areas and snow removal. In NY, HOA's that own the street do not get public snow removal and are required to have a contracted service for any snowfall over 3 inches. We used to be excluded from garbage pickup also, but a lawsuit changed that because around here, sanitation is part of real estate and local income taxes, which we all pay so the City was forced to provide it.

 

[jeepinjeepin]

Ours is all zoning(money). Basically, give us a common area and the houses can be built closer together and closer to the street. So we got 6 acres of swamp. The developer got probably 25% more homes in the development. I'm not mad. It was in our price range and got us out of the apartment.

The part that sticks me is that I am treasurer. I am responsible for money that ain't mine.

 

[dfc]

I disagree.
The OP said he tried to talk to the guy, and he told him to f*ck off. If somebody did that to me, I'd be calling the cops every time he sneezed.

I can understand somebody to play loudly if they're playing drums, or any other, naturally loud, acoustic instrument, but there's no excuse to refuse turning down the volume on an electric guitar. Worst case scenario, if he needs to play loud, headphones are fairly cheap.

Not true. Amps have "sweet spots" and it all deals with electricity and how the components deal with differing levels of it. Amps will sound different at different volumes. Usually cranking up the volume (amount of electricity) gives you a better sound due to the level of electric going through the components.

 

[dwarven_stout]

Not true. Amps have "sweet spots" and it all deals with electricity and how the components deal with differing levels of it. Amps will sound different at different volumes. Usually cranking up the volume (amount of electricity) gives you a better sound due to the level of electric going through the components.

No wonder they made them go up to 11.

 

[dfc]

Why not just make it go up to 10 and make 10 louder?

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

Not true. Amps have "sweet spots" and it all deals with electricity and how the components deal with differing levels of it. Amps will sound different at different volumes. Usually cranking up the volume (amount of electricity) gives you a better sound due to the level of electric going through the components.

You're an audio engineer, and that's the best explanation you can come up with?

The main difference between running an amp at low volume and running it full steam is in the THD (that's "Total Harmonic Distortion", Mr. audio engineer), and it's dynamic range.
Actually, amps are designed to sound their best at mid volume, where the frequency range is high, the THD is minimal, and the dynamic range (the ratio between the loudest and the (lowest voltage signal, I don't know the right English name) is highest, without trimming the signal. Beyond that, if you play it at too low a volume, you will lose the lower voltage signals, and if you play it at a higher volume, it will crop the louder ones.

So, sorry, that's a myth very popular among amateur musicians. You, as an audio engineer, should know better.

 

[dfc]

You're an audio engineer, and that's the best explanation you can come up with?

The main difference between running an amp at low volume and running it full steam is in the THD (that's "Total Harmonic Distortion", Mr. audio engineer), and it's dynamic range.
Actually, amps are designed to sound their best at mid volume, where the frequency range is high, the THD is minimal, and the dynamic range (the ratio between the loudest and the (lowest voltage signal, I don't know the right English name) is highest, without trimming the signal. Beyond that, if you play it at too low a volume, you will lose the lower voltage signals, and if you play it at a higher volume, it will crop the louder ones.

So, sorry, that's a myth very popular among amateur musicians. You, as an audio engineer, should know better.

You say it's a myth, but you just claimed at low volume you "lose voltage signals" and at high volume you "lose voltage signals". That signifies a "sweet spot".

Besides, how many people on here do you think know what THD is? Does your doctor flash his/her knowledge of medical terms when explaining something to you or does he/she use layman's terms?

 

[ShakerD]

Time To Get A Gun

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

Time To Get A Gun


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xhbIu6XICE

Looks like you just found the OP's neighbor...

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

You're an audio engineer, and that's the best explanation you can come up with?

The main difference between running an amp at low volume and running it full steam is in the THD (that's "Total Harmonic Distortion", Mr. audio engineer), and it's dynamic range.
Actually, amps are designed to sound their best at mid volume, where the frequency range is high, the THD is minimal, and the dynamic range (the ratio between the loudest and the (lowest voltage signal, I don't know the right English name) is highest, without trimming the signal. Beyond that, if you play it at too low a volume, you will lose the lower voltage signals, and if you play it at a higher volume, it will crop the louder ones.

So, sorry, that's a myth very popular among amateur musicians. You, as an audio engineer, should know better.

Guitar amps are a TOTALLY different aminal than most other amps, that's why the best guitar amps are still vacuum tube amps. We WANT distortion and often we WANT compression (i.e. less dynamic range) and you achieve that by cranking it up. Also, the way an amp interacts with the speakers changes as you crank it and you just can't 'fake' that. Also, our ears behave differently at high volumes (but that's the case with any sound source).

I've played guitar since I was a young teen (so ~35 years) and I've been building/modifying guitar amps for many years. It's just different (and generally better) at higher volumes.

EDIT: And you can certainly play drums with headphones. I've played with drummers that had electronic drums...a good electronic drum set actually can sound better in really small clubs because you don't have to deal with all that volume (especially the snare).

 

[Acoma]

I say the op buy a bass guitar and join the drunks band at this point.

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

I say the op buy a bass guitar and join the drunks band at this point.

Actually, you reminded me that I have found the solution for the OP's problem.

OP: pay attention. You had the solution to the problem right at home from the beginning.
JUST BREW HIM A BATCH!!!

That's right: make a batch of homebrew just for him, and give it to him as a peace offering. That should calm him down.
But, just in case the gesture doesn't really make an effect on him, I read, somewhere, that, instead of hops, hemlock is really bitter!!!

 

[Inodoro_Pereyra]

I think we agree on the alienating your neighbors part. It's just not cool.

Exactly. And that's the whole point of the thread. The guy is not playing professionally, so there are ways to work around the sound quality issues, in case he really cares (and, being a drunk and a junkie, I seriously doubt it). But I have the impression the guy is more interested in driving the neighbors crazy than in playing guitar...

 

[EoinMag]

So you're fighting with your neighbour because his sound isn't too loud it's just the quality of the sound is not up to par? Man you're a ******.....oh wait, that fight was someone elses? I'm confused......

 

[snccoulter]

No I am trying to get it to a reasonable volume. When he plays at a reasonable volume I can live with it, but when the volume is so loud I can't watch TV in my own home when the windows are closed there is a problem. If he was not so drunk he could not stand or stoned it may sound decent but he still needs to keep it a resonable level. He could close the garage door or turn it down either one would work for me. It is to bad he feels he has a right to play his music as loud as he can. Because if he would have just yurmes it down or shut the garage door it would have been all good

 

[EoinMag]

No I am trying to get it to a reasonable volume. When he plays at a reasonable volume I can live with it, but when the volume is so loud I can't watch TV in my own home when the windows are closed there is a problem. If he was not so drunk he could not stand or stoned it may sound decent but he still needs to keep it a resonable level. He could close the garage door or turn it down either one would work for me. It is to bad he feels he has a right to play his music as loud as he can. Because if he would have just yurmes it down or shut the garage door it would have been all good

Apologies for cluttering your thread I was just getting irked at reading all the OT stuff about sound quality, like we all know Junkies care about sound quality, it's right up there with good meth and crack

 

[snccoulter]

Signed a complaint on him today. If interested you can hear it here.