Let's Remember Some Beers (In Memoriam: Old Whales)

[MordorMongo]

Unless it’s you and MordorMongo talking about Phish concerts.

Y u hurt me?

 

[stupac2]

This is the perfect statement. I hate talking about beer, beer, beer. It eventually becomes a dick swinging contest. I don't give a **** that you smelled the farts of JVR after he had a bottle of Don Q from the cellar. Learn more at lambic.info. I don't care about what you have aging in the back of a closet at your mother's house.

Beer is a vehicle to get to know people.

This is a sentiment I see a lot, and I'm honestly wondering... where is this happening? I've been to a lot of beer tastings and even the fart-smelliest have relatively little beer talk and like zero dick-swinging. The best part about CheapBeerBuzz's fancy tastings are that I can go kayaking and people throw corks at me. It's great!

 

[KevSal]

This is a sentiment I see a lot, and I'm honestly wondering... where is this happening? I've been to a lot of beer tastings and even the fart-smelliest have relatively little beer talk and like zero dick-swinging. The best part about CheapBeerBuzz's fancy tastings are that I can go kayaking and people throw corks at me. It's great!

lol, your kayaking and our cork throwing immediately came to mind when i read that earlier. there has to be a video that exist somewhere of this.

 

[stupac2]

lol, your kayaking and our cork throwing immediately came to mind when i read that earlier. there has to be a video that exist somewhere of this.

If there isn't, I know who can fix it! CheapBeerBuzz we're way overdue for a tasting!

 

[KevSal]

If there isn't, I know who can fix it! CheapBeerBuzz we're way overdue for a tasting!

great idea, we already have a bottle list!

- Funky Buddha 12oz Passionfruit Berliner
- Growler (64oz) of draft batch (B0?) of Anchorage Deal with the Devil
- Veritas 003-Current (please reach out if you have 001 or 002)
- Bruery BA Partridge
- RRB Depuration
- HF Ann B1/B2



We can use the lost abbey corks for kayak throwing

 

[Brew33]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

 

[tosh1]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

I am down to one last bottle of this. I guess I should finally drink it.

 

[iong516]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

Definitely a nice shelf pickup of yesteryear. I was so much more exploratory back then...

 

[bramsdell]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

****. I totally forgot about this beer. It was amazing for the price, considering it was so cheap.

Victory Helios was similar way back in the day. You could buy bombers of a decent Brett saison for like $5-6 all day. Back in ~2012, that was huge.

 

[matedog]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

This is how I remember it pouring. Cool orange/red color too.

And yeah, it tasted good as well.

 

[jmgrub]

Fair, but I have met some really good friends through "rare" beer tastings where we all obsessed over what to bring way too much.

The folks in the corner talking about things that aren't beer related is usually where you want to be in my opinion.

Yes, the best beer shares are the ones where the beer analysis is limited to that "that's [insert descriptor from worst beer you've ever had to best beer you've ever had" and the rest of the discussion is not about beer.

 

[FoudreGuy]

I feel like #craftbeernewmoney would look at Dave and not understand the value.

"Bro, I could get 15 cases of Treehouse instead of that soy sauce".

Heck, I barely understand it, lol.

I’ve had that exact conversation in person with newmoney hypebois.

 

[CheapBeerBuzz]

If there isn't, I know who can fix it! CheapBeerBuzz we're way overdue for a tasting!

Good! You can finally pick up your damn water shoes that have been here for like 5 years!!!

 

[bramsdell]

This is how I remember it pouring. Cool orange/red color too.

And yeah, it tasted good as well.

Oh yeah, you had get them super cold before pouring. They were serious gushers on the regular.

 

[brian4beer]

My reply was specific to Vanilla Rye, but beyond Yellow Bus and the many bad fakes that have bubbled up, yes, I'm sure some fake bottles exist but I don't think they are anywhere near as prevalent as in whiskey or fine wine. There aren't many bottles fetching the high prices worth going through the trouble.

Cantillon bottles are certainly worth being weary of, however. Thanks to the particularities of European breweriana collectors, unused Cantillon labels are relatively easy to track down, and wouldn't you know, the rare and valuable one-offs often don't have back labels. In that case, it's just a matter of getting the correct cork vintage of whichever year-round bottle best matches the valuable one.

Once the Bruocsella Brut and Magic Lambic labels appear on that label website I would certainly second-guess any bottles I see for sale.

To your point this is the cleanest label of this I have ever seen and the few I have had never had the gold foil at the top?

https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/cantillon-brabantiea-75cl-vintage/503238

 

[SeaWatchman]

To your point this is the cleanest label of this I have ever seen and the few I have had never had the gold foil at the top?

https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/cantillon-brabantiea-75cl-vintage/503238

If I saw that bottle in person I’d say it’s a fake. Not one single bottle has had that gold foil on it and it doesn’t appear to have a cap. AND for a while, if you knew where to look you could get unused brabantiae labels. At least one unused label also sold on eBay a few months back.

 

[brian4beer]

Yeah. I have a few older Cantillon bottles of straight gueuze from that same period that had this gold foil over it but agree every brabantiae bottle I have seen have had a rusted out cap with all kinds of funky mold underneath it.

 

[JulianB1]

To your point this is the cleanest label of this I have ever seen and the few I have had never had the gold foil at the top?

https://www.mybeercollectibles.com/listing/cantillon-brabantiea-75cl-vintage/503238

I like how there's basically no information listed also. Really inspires confidence that the seller is on the up-and-up...

 

[tikk]

Guy has one feedback as a seller. It was for an unlabeled lambic. This seems legit.

 

[jammery]

Consider what would go into making a fake Vanilla Rye:

Unused Vanilla Rye labels are not available for sale anywhere, as far as I know, are not easily faked using common office or household inkjet printers and are not easy to cleanly remove from the bottle without damaging. The faked VR would also need the printed "Bourbon County" caps. Of course, if they really wanted to someone could carefully remove the caps from other BCBS bottles from roughly the same vintage (the same ones were used for 2-3 years, I think) but this another expensive (opportunity cost of not selling that legit vintage BCBS bottle) and tedious step.

Alternatively, if we assume fakers are refilling their VR empties, how would they do this effectively (by making a convincing fake product) and profitably? So they...buy a sixtel of a different barrel-aged stout that bears something of a similarity to Vanilla Rye but is also fairly inexpensive and then use a beer gun to fill the bottle but in a very careful way so as to not spill stout onto the pale yellow label?

Could someone make convincing fake labels and bottle caps? Yes. Could someone buy or blend a convincing vanilla-infused Bourbon County Stout? Yes. But this stuff is not especially cheap and the market for Vanilla Rye is not lucrative or deep enough to warrant that kind of operation.

I don’t think people are trying to make compelling fakes. I think people just drink their bottle and refill it and then sell it, relying on the fact that most people don’t even drink their VR, they just keep flipping it. And if someone does open it and says that it’s a fake the seller can a) claim that they got it from someone else
b) imply that maybe the beer has fallen off dramatically due to multiple shippings.

Obviously the seller cannot claim that it is a properly stored bottle but that doesn’t seem to matter.

 

[thebandit1]

It eventually becomes a dick swinging contest.

Smallest dick swinging contest ever.

 

[stupac2]

Good! You can finally pick up your damn water shoes that have been here for like 5 years!!!

I though I already had! Also, it's not my fault you host one tasting every five years!

 

[JCastle1]

Not a whale but damn do I miss Rayon Vert.

Is the new recipe not the same? They changed the name a couple years ago.

 

[davey101]

Is the new recipe not the same? They changed the name a couple years ago.

https://mashing-in.com/2016/11/22/green-flash-brewing-rebrands-rayon-vert-as-baroque-belgique/

Too much work. Just buy Orval.

 

[Brew33]

Is the new recipe not the same? They changed the name a couple years ago.

I hear ya. It's just not in a $10.99 4 pack.

 

[Moondog1]

Consumed this while hanging out with Fingolfin and Minnesotaryan. Batch E!037 is still hanging with only a hints of its age showing. Good company makes for a better beer drinking experience.

 

[davey101]

Consumed this while hanging out with Fingolfin and Minnesotaryan. Batch E!037 is still hanging with only a hints of its age showing. Good company makes for a better beer drinking experience.

2,1

 

[Moondog1]

2,1

Duh, come visit soon.

 

[Fingolfin]

Consumed this while hanging out with Fingolfin and Minnesotaryan. Batch E!037 is still hanging with only a hints of its age showing. Good company makes for a better beer drinking experience.

Shocked at how delicious it was!

Did we decide that was from trxxpaxxs? Or sliverx?

 

[sliverx]

Shocked at how delicious it was!

Did we decide that was from trxxpaxxs? Or sliverx?

I sent so many of those out, just sat on a shelf for like $12. I have at least 1 still, I have so much old beer that needs to be drank.